KaraokeKarlton
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Tue Aug-26-03 04:04 AM
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To me, the right to bear arms is higher on my list of issues than abortion is. It's not that I think abortion shouldn't be legal, because I believe it has it's place. However, I admittedly don't like it. In fact, I really dislike abortion...a lot. It really, really saddens me that so many people don't think about birth control BEFORE they have sex. It really upsets me how frequently it's used as after the fact birth control. Especially with how readily available birth control is. But then I've always been a bit disgusted with irresponsibility. As for guns...if I lose my job and can't feed my kids, a gun will enable me to put food on the table. If someone breaks into my home looking to harm my family, a gun will help me protect them. That gun provides me with the means to provide for and protect my family. That's a pretty damn big deal to me. A lot of people feel the same way. That's why the 2nd Amendment is THE single biggest "single issue" voting faction in politics. You might not like it or understand it, but those are the facts. You'd be hard pressed to find a rural voter who lives in a hunting state who puts abortion above gun rights. This is why democrats don't fare as well as they could in the south and west. It's much more huge than most gun control proponents want to admit.
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| -Kerry receives 'F' from NRA Dean gets 'A' |
DJcairo |
Aug-25-03 08:45 PM |
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Go Kerry! |
LibertyChick |
Aug-25-03 08:50 PM |
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Old news |
Doomsayer13 |
Aug-25-03 08:50 PM |
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Since when do Dems support the NRA |
DJcairo |
Aug-25-03 08:57 PM |
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There was no need for Dean to pass any gun control laws... |
killbotfactory |
Aug-25-03 08:59 PM |
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It's not that we are happy that he gets the support of the NRA... |
uberotto |
Aug-25-03 09:10 PM |
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I never said I supported the NRA |
Doomsayer13 |
Aug-26-03 10:27 AM |
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Good reason for this hunter not to support Kerry. |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-25-03 08:52 PM |
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So what do you hunt with a AK ,AR or FLA |
bahrbearian |
Aug-25-03 08:56 PM |
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I don't support federal gun control |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-25-03 09:05 PM |
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Is your name Charlton Heston |
DJcairo |
Aug-25-03 09:08 PM |
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Is your name Pee Wee Herman? |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-25-03 09:12 PM |
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The biggest danger with guns |
mkregel |
Aug-25-03 09:32 PM |
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That's not gun control, though. |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-25-03 09:42 PM |
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So why is it the governments responsibilty to offer free gun classes |
bahrbearian |
Aug-25-03 09:52 PM |
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Speaking of Columbine... |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-25-03 10:17 PM |
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What gun control? |
library_max |
Aug-25-03 10:22 PM |
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If my understanding is correct... |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-26-03 12:03 AM |
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Just did the research |
library_max |
Aug-26-03 10:49 AM |
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Do you have a link? |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-26-03 12:20 PM |
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No link, sorry |
library_max |
Aug-26-03 04:35 PM |
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I just asked what you hunt with? |
bahrbearian |
Aug-25-03 09:40 PM |
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Oh please... |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-25-03 09:50 PM |
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Excuse me |
JeniB |
Aug-25-03 09:53 PM |
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Concealed guns are legal here |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-25-03 10:00 PM |
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Cite, please |
slackmaster |
Aug-26-03 10:13 AM |
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I thought that was well known. I went and found an article talking about |
JeniB |
Aug-26-03 09:07 PM |
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I hunt and I don't need a assault weapon , |
bahrbearian |
Aug-25-03 09:59 PM |
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Funny thing about gun laws, |
library_max |
Aug-25-03 09:59 PM |
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No gun control stops gun crime period |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-26-03 12:12 AM |
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Do you have any evidence for that? |
library_max |
Aug-26-03 11:00 AM |
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Actually, I do... |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-26-03 12:28 PM |
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Sorry for your loss |
library_max |
Aug-26-03 04:38 PM |
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I live In NC... |
renie408 |
Aug-26-03 02:31 AM |
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Gun safety would help prevent instances like that |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-26-03 03:13 AM |
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The frustrating part... |
renie408 |
Aug-26-03 08:17 AM |
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I understand your frustration |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-26-03 12:37 PM |
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The Dean people are proud of their NRA affiliation |
billbuckhead |
Aug-25-03 08:56 PM |
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Guess you'll be voting for Bush in 2004, then. |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-25-03 09:08 PM |
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Don't knock it. I got my Mr. Macho Repuke boss looking at Dean |
Demobrat |
Aug-25-03 09:35 PM |
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That's nice. |
killbotfactory |
Aug-25-03 08:56 PM |
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The gun issue is going to bite us in the ass... |
RoeBear |
Aug-25-03 09:12 PM |
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I don't want the "redneck" voters to stay at home. I want them to vote Dem |
w4rma |
Aug-25-03 09:18 PM |
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So why not say Dean should have voted for the war |
DJcairo |
Aug-25-03 09:21 PM |
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huh? |
JohnKleeb |
Aug-25-03 09:23 PM |
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Who said Dean supporters are predominantly liberals? |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-25-03 09:30 PM |
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Representation reflecting the population |
loyalsister |
Aug-25-03 10:23 PM |
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Bingo! |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-26-03 12:21 AM |
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Not only that.... |
loyalsister |
Aug-26-03 12:52 AM |
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Guns are HUGE in NH |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-26-03 01:09 AM |
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States rights is a winner |
loyalsister |
Aug-26-03 01:32 AM |
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Guns Are More Important Than Abortions |
DrFunkenstein |
Aug-26-03 03:42 AM |
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They are for collecting, actually |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-26-03 04:04 AM |
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Casually excited? |
loyalsister |
Aug-26-03 04:34 AM |
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You're Ignoring The Issue |
DrFunkenstein |
Aug-26-03 12:22 PM |
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urban centers bear the cost of rural "freedom"? |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-26-03 12:46 PM |
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If Urbanity Were The Problem |
DrFunkenstein |
Aug-26-03 05:16 PM |
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Partners in crime |
loyalsister |
Aug-26-03 03:56 PM |
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It is my observation that DUers are divided on gun control |
w4rma |
Aug-25-03 09:56 PM |
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I can't believe I'm reading about Democrats selling out to the NRA! |
JeniB |
Aug-25-03 09:42 PM |
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What did Wesley Clark say about guns |
bahrbearian |
Aug-25-03 09:46 PM |
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Clark has a similar position to Dean's |
killbotfactory |
Aug-25-03 10:00 PM |
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Its disgraceful--all sellouts |
DJcairo |
Aug-25-03 09:53 PM |
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Dean didn't "sell out" to anyone |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-25-03 09:55 PM |
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Dean's position on early childhood intervention will save more lives.. |
killbotfactory |
Aug-25-03 10:04 PM |
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Yes, let's all bend over for Uncle Heston |
xequals |
Aug-26-03 11:08 AM |
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Iraq proves that the American citizenry should be armed |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Aug-25-03 09:47 PM |
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We Americans usually prefer the civilized way... |
JeniB |
Aug-25-03 09:50 PM |
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I agree totally |
bahrbearian |
Aug-25-03 10:04 PM |
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So let me get this straight. |
library_max |
Aug-25-03 10:06 PM |
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A "libertarian" stand on this will help Dean in the south... |
ConservativeDemocrat |
Aug-25-03 10:06 PM |
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You guys may have a point |
library_max |
Aug-25-03 10:18 PM |
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Black market and gun running |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-26-03 12:29 AM |
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Prohibition and drugs have nothing to do with it. |
library_max |
Aug-26-03 11:11 AM |
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What? Sorry, that post didn't make much sense |
KaraokeKarlton |
Aug-26-03 01:02 PM |
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One at a time. |
library_max |
Aug-26-03 04:49 PM |
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Why? |
lastliberalintexas |
Aug-26-03 08:10 AM |
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Reality check. |
library_max |
Aug-26-03 11:23 AM |
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Yes, but |
lastliberalintexas |
Aug-26-03 01:05 PM |
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Many of these points have already been answered in other posts. |
library_max |
Aug-26-03 04:59 PM |
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Henry David Thoreau |
LuminousX |
Aug-25-03 10:27 PM |
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Gun owners = toddlers |
renie408 |
Aug-26-03 02:48 AM |
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Toddlers who vote |
LuminousX |
Aug-26-03 06:24 AM |
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Well, actually... |
renie408 |
Aug-26-03 12:14 PM |
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A gun in Montana or Tennessee today |
library_max |
Aug-26-03 05:07 PM |
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contrary |
LuminousX |
Aug-26-03 09:36 PM |
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45 replies, and no one has posted his position on guns? |
dajabr |
Aug-26-03 12:03 AM |
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Good for Kerry |
genius |
Aug-26-03 01:17 AM |
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I Buy My Guns In Vermont To Sell To New Yorkers |
DrFunkenstein |
Aug-26-03 02:17 AM |
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Quail hunting in Brooklyn? |
JohnKleeb |
Aug-26-03 02:19 AM |
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Kind of like 'shrooms... |
dajabr |
Aug-26-03 02:36 AM |
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Leave It Up To The States To Decide That |
DrFunkenstein |
Aug-26-03 03:27 AM |
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I think your issue is with transport - not manufacturing? |
dajabr |
Aug-26-03 08:20 AM |
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Some Weapons Should Not Be Made At All |
DrFunkenstein |
Aug-26-03 12:43 PM |
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Where I live (rural Maryland), Dean's stand wins people over |
deutsey |
Aug-26-03 06:16 AM |
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You found one of the reasons I find Dean more appealing than Kerry (n/t) |
Aaron |
Aug-26-03 06:39 AM |
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I posted this in another thread - the NRA is calling people |
molly |
Aug-26-03 07:38 AM |
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Maybe it was the "other" NRA. |
dajabr |
Aug-26-03 08:23 AM |
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NRA-lite Dean will be opposed |
xequals |
Aug-26-03 08:42 AM |
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See post #46... |
dajabr |
Aug-26-03 08:52 AM |
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Dean's rhetoric about guns being a "state's rights issue" |
xequals |
Aug-26-03 09:13 AM |
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Very well said. Vote for Kerry and his 0 rating from the NRA |
DJcairo |
Aug-26-03 10:35 AM |
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WTF are you talking about? |
molly |
Aug-26-03 09:00 AM |
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Kerry would get an "F" from me as well. |
Duder |
Aug-26-03 08:25 AM |
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Verrrry well said |
lastliberalintexas |
Aug-26-03 09:19 AM |
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Here's the link... |
Duder |
Aug-26-03 11:11 AM |
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Golly, what a load of "facts" |
library_max |
Aug-26-03 12:06 PM |
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So you think its okay the we can buy assault weapons |
DJcairo |
Aug-26-03 10:15 AM |
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Do you bother to read the posts here?? |
clar |
Aug-26-03 10:40 AM |
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OK, I'll make you a deal... |
dajabr |
Aug-26-03 10:53 AM |
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I agree with Dean... |
Duder |
Aug-26-03 11:17 AM |
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Checking Firearms At The City Limits? |
DrFunkenstein |
Aug-26-03 12:50 PM |
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Your statement does not hold water |
slackmaster |
Aug-26-03 12:16 PM |
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Riddled With Logical Fallacies |
DrFunkenstein |
Aug-26-03 01:07 PM |
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I would like to point out that |
Northwind |
Aug-26-03 10:58 AM |
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Please. Do You Really Think With The State of The Nation Today |
DrFunkenstein |
Aug-26-03 01:10 PM |
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Dean's gun ownership views mirror many American's views on |
polpilot |
Aug-26-03 12:34 PM |
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