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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:59 PM
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58. Is mpp lying too?
Edited on Sun Jul-13-03 01:07 PM by dsc
Here is their response to the question: "Why not wait for more research before making marijuana legally available as a medicine?".

"(R)esearch funds are limited, and there is a daunting thicket of regulations to be negotiated at the federal level (those of the Food and Drug Administration, FDA, and the Drug Enforcement Administration, DEA) and state levels."

"Some drugs, such as marijuana, are labeled Schedule I in the Controlled Substance Act, and this adds considerable complexity and expense to their clinical evaluation."

"(O)nly about one in five drugs initially tested in humans successfully secures FDA approval for marketing through a new drug application."

"From a scientific point of view, research is difficult because of the rigors of obtaining an adequate supply of legal, standardized marijuana for study."

"In short, development of the marijuana plant is beset by substantial scientific, regulatory, and commercial obstacles and uncertainties."

"(D)espite the legal, social, and health problems associated with smoking marijuana, it is widely used by certain patient groups."
Note what this pro legalization group doesn't say. They don't say the studies have been done. Incidently I don't disagree with the fact obsticals exist here but to call a candidate a liar for claiming more study is needed on this issue when even the legalizers agree is nothing short of profound dishonesty.

Here is the link:

www.mpp.org/science.html

edited for the title, the question, and to provide a link. Also replaced brackets with parenthesis.
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  - when I read that tears come to my eyes too  CMT   Jul-13-03 03:13 AM   #1 
  - My reaction comes when I read something like this  Mairead   Jul-14-03 06:56 AM   #73 
  - Thats so sad about his brother  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 03:18 AM   #2 
  - a little balance  Mairead   Jul-13-03 03:23 AM   #3 
  - I forgot rich people are incapable of experiencing emotional pain.  killbotfactory   Jul-13-03 03:27 AM   #4 
  - They tend to feel their own pain  Mairead   Jul-13-03 04:37 AM   #11 
  - Yeah, he became a doctor because he only cares about himself...  killbotfactory   Jul-13-03 04:42 AM   #12 
  - I've met a number of physicians  Mairead   Jul-13-03 05:15 AM   #13 
  - No, please spare me your demonization of a decent man...  killbotfactory   Jul-13-03 05:16 AM   #14 
     - To channel Harry Truman for a moment  Mairead   Jul-13-03 06:08 AM   #16 
        - First off...  thom1102   Jul-13-03 07:48 AM   #20 
        - I want to apologize to the responsible Kucinich supporters  thom1102   Jul-13-03 07:52 AM   #22 
        - Thom, his brother is not more important than anyone else's  Mairead   Jul-13-03 08:05 AM   #25 
        - And people who know about grief don't mock  thom1102   Jul-13-03 08:18 AM   #28 
           - "you should be ashamed that you would stoop so low! "  Mairead   Jul-13-03 08:47 AM   #32 
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                    - I don't have a link, but I have heard him say  thom1102   Jul-13-03 09:46 AM   #37 
                       - I don't think that's correct  JackieO   Jul-13-03 10:02 AM   #39 
                          - I tried to verify on his website,  thom1102   Jul-13-03 10:04 AM   #40 
                             - So much for your assertion (nt)  Mairead   Jul-14-03 05:10 AM   #72 
        - I like Kucinich  gottaB   Jul-13-03 08:09 AM   #26 
        - Frankly the reaction of Dean supporters  repeater138   Jul-13-03 11:41 AM   #48 
           - You don't know me from Adam!  thom1102   Jul-13-03 12:16 PM   #56 
           - Just Dean huh?  Nazgul35   Jul-13-03 12:25 PM   #57 
              - I'll do just that  repeater138   Jul-13-03 01:45 PM   #59 
                 - Then deal with the substance of the argument  thom1102   Jul-13-03 02:04 PM   #60 
                    - Kucinich is electable  repeater138   Jul-13-03 02:28 PM   #61 
                       - First of all...  thom1102   Jul-13-03 03:00 PM   #62 
                          - :smoke:  repeater138   Jul-13-03 06:30 PM   #67 
                             - Not elitism  thom1102   Jul-14-03 07:38 AM   #74 
                                - I disagree  repeater138   Jul-14-03 01:42 PM   #83 
                                   - And I disagree with you.  thom1102   Jul-14-03 02:52 PM   #85 
        - Check your facts  Mairead   Jul-13-03 07:57 AM   #23 
           - You have some real anger issues  thom1102   Jul-13-03 08:03 AM   #24 
              - Do try to build better strawmen.  Mairead   Jul-13-03 08:12 AM   #27 
                 - You know what?  thom1102   Jul-13-03 08:30 AM   #30 
                    - Who says we wont regain congress  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 11:25 AM   #44 
                    - Of Course I hope we gain back Congress.  thom1102   Jul-13-03 11:54 AM   #50 
                    - Keep telling yourself that  repeater138   Jul-13-03 11:49 AM   #49 
                       - I have nothing but confidence in Dean.  thom1102   Jul-13-03 12:08 PM   #54 
        - Your opinion is not fact  killbotfactory   Jul-13-03 11:56 AM   #52 
        - Is mpp lying too?  dsc   Jul-13-03 12:59 PM   #58 
        - No, they're stupid  Mairead   Jul-14-03 04:36 AM   #69 
           - But that describes anyone whose opinion differs from yours...  thom1102   Jul-14-03 07:45 AM   #76 
              - It's not about whether it differs from mine  Mairead   Jul-14-03 12:09 PM   #78 
                 - Again, because it conflicts with what you deem to be  thom1102   Jul-14-03 02:54 PM   #86 
                    - What an idiotic thing to say  Mairead   Jul-14-03 04:44 PM   #90 
        - You have the wrong impression  keek   Jul-13-03 03:26 PM   #63 
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     - My info comes from his policies  Mairead   Jul-13-03 06:11 AM   #17 
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  - Perhaps not, but...  repeater138   Jul-13-03 11:38 AM   #47 
  - Thanks for the balance...so tell me, how was it that  sfecap   Jul-13-03 03:30 AM   #5 
  - and didnt he get a commendition a few years back from the city council  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 03:42 AM   #6 
  - Well, gee...* gave me a tax cut...doesn't mean anything.  sfecap   Jul-13-03 03:56 AM   #7 
     - Did I attack Dean no?  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 04:07 AM   #8 
        - I did it to illustrate a point...  sfecap   Jul-13-03 04:17 AM   #9 
           - Good glad I get you  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 04:22 AM   #10 
              - Describing Kucinich as Unelectable is not an attack  thom1102   Jul-13-03 07:34 AM   #19 
                 - "I can make an airtight argument"  Mairead   Jul-13-03 08:18 AM   #29 
                 - I am doing a damn good job right here right now!  thom1102   Jul-13-03 08:31 AM   #31 
                 - In your mind, kiddo, only in your mind (nt)  Mairead   Jul-13-03 08:52 AM   #33 
                    - Dream on!  thom1102   Jul-13-03 09:10 AM   #35 
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                    - Thom, I was *quoting you*  Mairead   Jul-14-03 04:44 AM   #71 
                       - Who the hell are you to tell me to get some perspective!!!  thom1102   Jul-14-03 07:41 AM   #75 
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                 - Not attacks?  thom1102   Jul-13-03 10:55 AM   #42 
                 - Stating an ignorant opinion is not the same as stating facts.  killbotfactory   Jul-13-03 12:03 PM   #53 
                    - Thank you kilbotfactory for calling my opinion ignorant..  Desertrose   Jul-13-03 06:27 PM   #66 
                    - I was referring to Mairead  killbotfactory   Jul-13-03 06:44 PM   #68 
                    - Murdered? Where do you get that information from? (nt)  Mairead   Jul-14-03 04:38 AM   #70 
                       - The article that started this thread...  killbotfactory   Jul-14-03 10:04 AM   #77 
                          - Quote where it says he was murdered, why don't you  Mairead   Jul-14-03 12:35 PM   #79 
                             - We think that the North Vietnamese basically ordered them killed,  killbotfactory   Jul-14-03 12:51 PM   #80 
                                - Note the words 'speculate', 'died', and 'we think'. They're significant.  Mairead   Jul-14-03 01:21 PM   #81 
                                   - He was probably murdered.  killbotfactory   Jul-14-03 01:25 PM   #82 
                                      - One of the markers of adulthood  Mairead   Jul-14-03 02:31 PM   #84 
                                         - I can't believe you are lecturing someone on semantics!!  thom1102   Jul-14-03 03:03 PM   #87 
                                         - I find it funny you would lecture me on making false statements  killbotfactory   Jul-14-03 03:08 PM   #88 
                                            - Yes, it is a BFD. Pity you don't see that.  Mairead   Jul-14-03 05:06 PM   #91 
                                            - This is one of the most insane arguement I've been in...  killbotfactory   Jul-14-03 08:28 PM   #92 
                 - how they say it is  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 11:17 AM   #43 
  - I'll tell you exactly what happened  repeater138   Jul-13-03 11:54 AM   #51 
  - I suppose that would work for FDR too  keek   Jul-13-03 03:28 PM   #64 
  - Wow! If Kucinich's reaction...  Duder   Jul-13-03 11:30 AM   #45 
  - it wouldnt be  JohnKleeb   Jul-13-03 11:32 AM   #46 
     - I qualified by saying "some" supporters  Duder   Jul-13-03 12:12 PM   #55 
        - The story about DK and the flag  Desertrose   Jul-13-03 06:14 PM   #65 
  - I think this story shows why Dean won't use the military recklessly  Larkspur   Jul-14-03 03:50 PM   #89 
 

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