JohnKleeb
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Tue Aug-12-03 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #49 |
| 51. Yes genius so much more bad about it |
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 thank you Its economically and racially prejudiced, another reason why I despise it.
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| -Flamebait: Why is Dean willing to put innocent people to death? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 02:06 PM |
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Your spine must be made of nerf |
Northwind |
Aug-12-03 02:10 PM |
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new trial was ordered...every bit as heinous as putting to death someone.. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 02:13 PM |
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I interpret it differently |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Aug-12-03 02:30 PM |
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He is saying that winning a new trial on appeal is a 'technicality' |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 02:39 PM |
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Dean already stated that "legal technicalities" |
blm |
Aug-12-03 02:50 PM |
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Here's what Dean desires in judges: |
blm |
Aug-12-03 04:20 PM |
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Does Thomas Harthman |
indigo32 |
Aug-14-03 09:21 PM |
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It is described as a 1997 interview with the Vermont News Bureau |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 10:00 PM |
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He seems to be saying... |
TN4Gore |
Aug-14-03 10:48 PM |
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sigh, one more time, the quote: |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 11:08 PM |
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Jebus, are we all having problems with reading comprehension in here? |
Garage Queen |
Aug-19-03 05:19 PM |
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That certainly is a unique interpretation |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-19-03 05:31 PM |
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I *did* look at all the words, but decided to boil it down |
Garage Queen |
Aug-20-03 07:21 AM |
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I think people should read the whole quote and decide for themselves |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-20-03 09:39 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Aug-20-03 12:43 PM |
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No spin from me, just the quote |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-21-03 12:55 AM |
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That Bastard - String him up |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Aug-12-03 02:11 PM |
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That's not what he says. |
bowens43 |
Aug-12-03 02:12 PM |
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What's a 'technicality'? another way of saying 'right to a fair trial' |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 02:14 PM |
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I am all for fair trails |
cjbuchanan |
Aug-12-03 02:26 PM |
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I'm willing to hear more facts on this particular case however |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 02:41 PM |
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Don't care for that position myself... |
plindner |
Aug-12-03 02:17 PM |
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I'm behind Dean |
LuminousX |
Aug-12-03 02:20 PM |
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The President appoints federal judges, including the Supreme Court |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 02:28 PM |
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So you are afraid Dean is going to appoint |
LuminousX |
Aug-12-03 03:55 PM |
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Why would anyone back a guy like that? |
genius |
Aug-12-03 02:20 PM |
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Neither |
LuminousX |
Aug-12-03 02:25 PM |
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Dean Supports the Killing of Children |
LuminousX |
Aug-12-03 02:27 PM |
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Then I assume you are for |
dsc |
Aug-12-03 02:28 PM |
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see post #16 |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 02:36 PM |
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A weak flame... |
Duder |
Aug-12-03 02:30 PM |
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It's not about the death penalty, it's about due process. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 02:35 PM |
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Seems to me that's considered... |
Duder |
Aug-12-03 02:39 PM |
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Do you have a reference for that quote so we can put it in context? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 02:42 PM |
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I posted the link... |
Duder |
Aug-12-03 02:44 PM |
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OK |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 03:10 PM |
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I thought it was about: |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Aug-12-03 02:41 PM |
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Yes, why is Dean willing to put innocent people to death rather than |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 02:43 PM |
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That isn't what he said |
dsc |
Aug-12-03 02:50 PM |
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Spin it however you want, here are his words: |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 02:53 PM |
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So if the facts are |
dsc |
Aug-12-03 02:59 PM |
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Let me get this straight - |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 03:05 PM |
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No I am not |
dsc |
Aug-12-03 03:16 PM |
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How do you know who is innocent and who is guilty without a fair trial? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 03:20 PM |
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Gee |
dsc |
Aug-12-03 03:31 PM |
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It's really about a fundamental question of whether you believe |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 02:09 AM |
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Wow nice bump and a wild boogieman too! |
Egnever |
Aug-14-03 02:31 AM |
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See post #69 |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 11:08 AM |
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Got it. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Aug-12-03 03:04 PM |
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Context, context, I know you hate it. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 03:09 PM |
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has it ever occurred to you that it might have been a TECHNICALITY |
TN4Gore |
Aug-14-03 11:03 PM |
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I don't believe our right to a fair trial is a mere technicality. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 11:11 PM |
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You are purposely twisting Dean's words |
ima_sinnic |
Aug-12-03 02:58 PM |
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I don't need to twist, all I have to do is quote: |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 03:07 PM |
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Dont you mean quote out of context? |
Egnever |
Aug-14-03 02:32 AM |
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Did you not read it? Or are you purposely making a false statement? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 11:06 AM |
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"I believe the death penalty should be available for extreme and heinous |
VoteClark |
Aug-14-03 02:34 AM |
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Balderdash! |
Booberdawg |
Aug-12-03 02:47 PM |
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Right - 'someone guilty' who has won an appeal for a new trial |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 02:50 PM |
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Now you are changing your argument |
Booberdawg |
Aug-12-03 03:54 PM |
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Once again, I quote with full context: |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 04:07 PM |
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not even close to full context heres just some |
Egnever |
Aug-14-03 02:42 AM |
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See post #69 |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 11:10 AM |
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all against death penalty here |
JohnKleeb |
Aug-12-03 04:12 PM |
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Does Kerry sound kind of sadistic? |
Duder |
Aug-12-03 04:17 PM |
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So is this a sign that you concede my point? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 04:22 PM |
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Not a sign at all but a question... |
Duder |
Aug-12-03 08:38 PM |
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You call that defending Dean's words? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 10:48 PM |
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No need to defend my candidate's words |
Duder |
Aug-13-03 09:08 AM |
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Ok, you agree with him? that's an honest position at least... |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-13-03 11:24 AM |
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Cheese Whiz... |
Duder |
Aug-14-03 11:24 AM |
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Characterize it however you want. Thinking people will read Dean's words |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 11:35 AM |
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And thinking people can read Kerry's words out of context |
Duder |
Aug-14-03 11:42 AM |
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lol |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 11:48 AM |
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lol |
Duder |
Aug-14-03 12:03 PM |
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I hope people do read it. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 12:27 PM |
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I dont know he has different reasons for opposing it than I do |
JohnKleeb |
Aug-12-03 04:26 PM |
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I respect that viewpoint |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 04:41 PM |
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well good to see we agree |
JohnKleeb |
Aug-12-03 04:44 PM |
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Not to argue against my own guy but |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 04:54 PM |
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oops sorry |
JohnKleeb |
Aug-12-03 04:58 PM |
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It is a also racist and aimed at the lower class |
genius |
Aug-12-03 04:43 PM |
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Yes genius so much more bad about it |
JohnKleeb |
Aug-12-03 04:45 PM |
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Dean on the Death Penalty |
gully |
Aug-12-03 06:09 PM |
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It all depends on what your idea of scrupulousfairness is. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 07:32 PM |
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ROFL! |
Egnever |
Aug-14-03 02:51 AM |
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Do you have more context to provide? I'd like to hear it. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 11:24 AM |
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Oh Goody |
Le Taz Hot |
Aug-12-03 08:18 PM |
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Quoting Dean qualifies as bashing him? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-12-03 09:31 PM |
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Yes, it does. Anything that man does or says is bashing himself |
VoteClark |
Aug-14-03 02:31 AM |
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And the Truth Shall Set You Free |
genius |
Aug-14-03 01:56 PM |
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I mentioned this on the other thread regarding Deans Conservativism |
indigo32 |
Aug-14-03 08:50 PM |
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The President nominates judges to the Supreme Court |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 09:03 PM |
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I think you are overstating the case |
indigo32 |
Aug-14-03 09:08 PM |
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I'm not saying that |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 09:36 PM |
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Just curious, did you vote for Al Gore? |
Duder |
Aug-14-03 09:28 PM |
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Al Gore isn't running for President |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-14-03 09:59 PM |
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Al Gore said on Nightline that he would consider a moritorium |
genius |
Aug-15-03 01:09 AM |
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The pendulum has swung too far to the right-wing on the rights |
genius |
Aug-19-03 12:41 PM |
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If Dean had been appointing justices, years ago, we never would |
genius |
Aug-21-03 02:29 PM |
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Because Dean is evil |
ErasureAcer |
Aug-19-03 12:54 PM |
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Ok..... |
diamondsoul |
Aug-19-03 01:09 PM |
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Here Dean is equating the death of an innocent girl |
ProfessorPlum |
Aug-19-03 01:46 PM |
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We the People are the ones executing the innocent person |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-19-03 05:01 PM |
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I know that there is no point responding to you. |
ProfessorPlum |
Aug-20-03 08:29 AM |
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I don't think people need you to interpret for them. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-20-03 09:42 AM |
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brilliant counterargument, there, Sparky |
ProfessorPlum |
Aug-20-03 09:49 AM |
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I can see why you want to turn this into spin and counterspin |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-20-03 10:28 AM |
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there is no spin |
ProfessorPlum |
Aug-20-03 10:32 AM |
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spin - is when you explain what you think something means. |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-20-03 10:41 AM |
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Yes and you are doing a poor job of it |
ProfessorPlum |
Aug-20-03 10:57 AM |
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Bottom line is, |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-20-03 11:14 AM |
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Of course he is upset |
ProfessorPlum |
Aug-20-03 12:01 PM |
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It is false to say |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-20-03 12:21 PM |
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that is inaccurate |
ProfessorPlum |
Aug-20-03 12:49 PM |
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As long as this stupid thread got bumped |
ProfessorPlum |
Aug-20-03 03:13 PM |
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thanks for the kick, let's keep this thread on top where it belongs |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-21-03 12:56 AM |
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He's opposed to a right to a defense. He wants to streamline |
genius |
Aug-20-03 10:37 AM |
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You have got to be kidding me, 'genius' |
ProfessorPlum |
Aug-20-03 10:51 AM |
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Dean: “My view is that the justice system is not fair" |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-20-03 11:03 AM |
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Not those two same old articles from the Rutland Herald |
ProfessorPlum |
Aug-20-03 11:09 AM |
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So the newspaper is part of the 'Dean bashing plot?' lol |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-20-03 11:17 AM |
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no, but those two articles |
ProfessorPlum |
Aug-20-03 12:07 PM |
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Rutland Herald -Vermont's Pulitzer Prize newspaper |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-20-03 12:16 PM |
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the articles, not |
ProfessorPlum |
Aug-20-03 12:19 PM |
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Aug-20-03 12:45 PM |
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Pulitzer prize winning newspaper - only credible when it praises Dean? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-21-03 12:58 AM |
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True |
Nicholas_J |
Aug-21-03 05:25 PM |
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The evidence is there. Is the truth to hard for Deanies to swallow? |
genius |
Aug-20-03 11:22 AM |
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Aug-20-03 03:03 PM |
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Are you trying to insinuate something? |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-21-03 01:06 AM |
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Why would you think that? |
gratuitous |
Aug-21-03 02:51 PM |
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Because I can read and understand English |
Feanorcurufinwe |
Aug-21-03 04:37 PM |
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Well, I haven't seen any evidence of that |
gratuitous |
Aug-21-03 06:32 PM |
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There, but by the grace of God, goes Howard Dean. |
genius |
Aug-21-03 06:05 PM |
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But that would never happen |
kang |
Aug-22-03 10:03 AM |
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It's the combination of his positions that are concerning people |
Thomas Jefferson |
Aug-26-03 07:46 PM |
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