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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 02:26 PM
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26. You Are Using Overly Vague Statements
Like "invading" and "buying into." Ritter supported unfettered inspections and argued that Iraq did not represent an imminent threat. That is the same argument Kerry made.

Kerry supported disarmament based on the history of Saddam's regime after he signed the peace agreement terms of the Gulf War that called for disarmament and unfettered inspections. Saddam jerked UNSCOM around until Operation Desert Fox, and left a four year hole in our intelligence since that point. Kerry was calling for an end to Saddam's shenanigans, exhausting every peaceful remedy but still backed with the threat of force. That has been his position since at least 1997.

The resolution was not a perfect one, and Kerry voiced his regret that Gephardt and Lieberman undercut negotiations for Biden-Lugar. But he still felt the need to call on Saddam's disarmament. Dean came around to Kerry's way of thinking by February, although he speaks almost entirely of "imminent threats" rather than "disarmament" - a much more complex moral issue to dwell on.

Kerry has been unfailingly advocating Dean's February position since 1997.
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  -Philly: "Why I Supported The IWR." (Not Flamebait.) RUMMYisFROSTED  Aug-12-03 12:40 PM   #0 
  - I think its the disconnect D.C has from the people  AfricanDonkey   Aug-12-03 12:45 PM   #1 
  - Kerry is obligated to represent his constituients  CWebster   Aug-12-03 12:49 PM   #5 
     - Kerry seemed to have reservations though. He was very leary about the  AfricanDonkey   Aug-12-03 12:52 PM   #8 
     - But when Edwards represents his constituency it's not okay?  chimpymustgo   Aug-12-03 02:01 PM   #21 
        - So the IWR Dem's are Rovian puppets?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 02:07 PM   #22 
  - Why i dislike him more  CWebster   Aug-12-03 12:47 PM   #2 
  - Not exactly what I was looking for, CeeDub.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 12:49 PM   #4 
     - Yes, I know  CWebster   Aug-12-03 12:51 PM   #7 
  - Those points set up background.  blm   Aug-12-03 12:48 PM   #3 
  - OK. What about Ritter's 2002/2003 statements  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 12:51 PM   #6 
  - And so war was a last resort.  blm   Aug-12-03 12:57 PM   #10 
     - What was written into the resolution...  dajabr   Aug-12-03 01:04 PM   #11 
     - I agree that Le Chimp is guilty. Not the point.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 01:08 PM   #12 
        - No, I don't...I never did.  blm   Aug-12-03 02:09 PM   #23 
           - Interesting.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 02:18 PM   #25 
  - But Scott Ritter  lastliberalintexas   Aug-12-03 12:54 PM   #9 
     - You said it better than I could.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 01:10 PM   #13 
     - It's in his floor speech.  blm   Aug-12-03 02:17 PM   #24 
     - Well,  lastliberalintexas   Aug-12-03 02:29 PM   #27 
        - Then I am surprised you are unaware  blm   Aug-12-03 02:39 PM   #30 
           - Eh?  lastliberalintexas   Aug-12-03 02:50 PM   #34 
              - I am only saying it was one factor  blm   Aug-12-03 02:56 PM   #35 
                 - So what were those reasons?  lastliberalintexas   Aug-12-03 03:01 PM   #39 
                    - Many here do.  blm   Aug-12-03 04:35 PM   #52 
     - You Are Using Overly Vague Statements  DrFunkenstein   Aug-12-03 02:26 PM   #26 
     - Again  lastliberalintexas   Aug-12-03 02:40 PM   #31 
        - And we also know that Geppy and Lieberman "Rose-Gardened"  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 02:45 PM   #32 
        - Definitely  lastliberalintexas   Aug-12-03 02:57 PM   #37 
           - I Share Your Feelings  DrFunkenstein   Aug-12-03 03:08 PM   #41 
        - Actually, Disarmament Is Explicitly In The Resolution  DrFunkenstein   Aug-12-03 03:00 PM   #38 
           - I am not exonerating Hussein  lastliberalintexas   Aug-12-03 03:07 PM   #40 
              - This Is Kerry On The Eve Of War  DrFunkenstein   Aug-12-03 03:18 PM   #45 
     - Because Congress knew what Scott Ritter said in 1998  sandnsea   Aug-13-03 04:19 AM   #57 
  - Not flamebait - that's funny  Feanorcurufinwe   Aug-12-03 01:14 PM   #14 
  - Only if you want it to be, my friend.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 01:16 PM   #15 
     - You've moved the goalpost - again.  Feanorcurufinwe   Aug-12-03 01:32 PM   #17 
        - Er....  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 01:39 PM   #18 
           - So now you've bait and switched back to your original bait and switch?  Feanorcurufinwe   Aug-12-03 01:49 PM   #19 
              - the Philly forum for evidence.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 01:55 PM   #20 
  - IEAmerica radio. Ritter.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 01:28 PM   #16 
  - Dean Supporters Have A Strange Sense Of Chronology  DrFunkenstein   Aug-12-03 02:31 PM   #28 
  -  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 02:34 PM   #29 
     - You Are Changing Your Argument  DrFunkenstein   Aug-12-03 02:50 PM   #33 
        - No, I'm not. Let's look at it.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 02:56 PM   #36 
           - Not Following You  DrFunkenstein   Aug-12-03 03:20 PM   #46 
              - Yes I can.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 03:34 PM   #47 
                 - Those Weren't Reasons, They Were Examples Of Saddam's Instability  DrFunkenstein   Aug-12-03 04:09 PM   #48 
                    - got ya.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 04:19 PM   #50 
                       - Oh Please, Frosty  DrFunkenstein   Aug-12-03 04:25 PM   #51 
                          - Doesn't change with the full paragraph.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 05:52 PM   #53 
  - Here's what Kerry said back in October  goobergunch   Aug-12-03 03:09 PM   #42 
  - Thank you  lastliberalintexas   Aug-12-03 03:13 PM   #43 
  - Thanks for the article  George_Bonanza   Aug-12-03 06:34 PM   #54 
     - "...I will be among the first to speak out."  RUMMYisFROSTED   Aug-12-03 06:37 PM   #55 
  - Maybe someone can help me out with some questions/clarifications?  Aaron   Aug-12-03 03:15 PM   #44 
     - I Highly Recommend The Iraq War Reader  DrFunkenstein   Aug-12-03 04:15 PM   #49 
        - Ty Doc :) (n/t)  Aaron   Aug-12-03 09:57 PM   #56 

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