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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-11 10:47 AM
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13. If you're gonna be a Christian, may as well go Old School.
Catholic or Orthodox.

Almost anywhere you go in the world you can find a place to attend Mass.

And it's fascinating to me how the Church incorporates local culture, or how local cultures incorporate the Church. It goes both ways.

The Church is its people even when the one-percenters are rotten. Same as the people of a nation. The Church has exactly the same sort of rot in its hierarchy that the USA has in its government. I hate the Church the same way I hate the USA, but most people in the church community, as with any random community, are pretty wonderful even when their leaders stink.

There are places where I wouldn't attend Mass again because the local leaders are hateful, corrupt, and/or dumber and more rigid than pet rocks, but not many places like that, or maybe I just don't go to places like that in general.

My mom's a wandering heretic, so I grew up pretty comfortable in any church or religion she wasn't actively at war with. Her war with the Catholics was over before I was born. She'd been thinking about becoming a nun, but then she ran into one of those nasty pet rock Priests, which set her off on her religious Odyssey taking us and my dad along for the ride.

My own kids have grown up in a thoroughly social justice left wing liberal Catholic community.
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  -Being Catholic is AWESOME unionworks  Dec-09-11 08:24 PM   #0 
  - Really?! like pope John II sexing atop the tombs of Peter and Paul but that's just me n/t  UTUSN   Dec-09-11 08:39 PM   #1 
  - Shallow  unionworks   Dec-09-11 08:52 PM   #3 
  - No,really, it's not: Think CRUSADES, monks screwing whomever in their medieval cells, and much much  UTUSN   Dec-09-11 08:50 PM   #2 
  - Thank You  unionworks   Dec-09-11 08:56 PM   #4 
  - you can burn candles symbolically  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-09-11 08:57 PM   #5 
  - Yeah we do have problems  unionworks   Dec-09-11 09:13 PM   #6 
     - so if my ancestors did something noble, it some how makes my current bigotries ok?  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-09-11 09:40 PM   #8 
     - The Catholic Church hates gays and women.  Arugula Latte   Dec-09-11 10:06 PM   #9 
        - the real church  unionworks   Dec-10-11 07:28 AM   #12 
           - Well, the Vatican runs the show and they have been the bad guys for centuries.  Arugula Latte   Dec-10-11 02:55 PM   #20 
  - I think I found a website by that name. And any good vibes will help.  freshwest   Dec-09-11 09:39 PM   #7 
  - Thanks  unionworks   Dec-10-11 07:21 AM   #11 
  - I always thought they were pretty kool as far as a religian. When  doc03   Dec-09-11 10:33 PM   #10 
  - If you're gonna be a Christian, may as well go Old School.  hunter   Dec-10-11 10:47 AM   #13 
  - I am from  unionworks   Dec-10-11 12:03 PM   #14 
     - "...if you leave, you are just making things easier for the bad people."  hunter   Dec-10-11 12:39 PM   #15 
        - How do you have influence, when did you have any say as to who is your Parish priest...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-10-11 02:19 PM   #17 
           - i have asked the same question several times and never gotten a real answer  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-10-11 02:46 PM   #19 
           - Praying for change, I guess...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-10-11 03:13 PM   #23 
           - Do you pay income tax?  DerekG   Dec-10-11 04:16 PM   #29 
           - do we have choice in this? pretending choice free conditions  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-10-11 04:21 PM   #31 
           - You could be a war tax resister  DerekG   Dec-10-11 04:34 PM   #32 
              - and being a war tax resister has the exact same amount of legal  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-10-11 04:50 PM   #33 
                 - I'm just reminding you that your hands aren't clean, either  DerekG   Dec-10-11 04:52 PM   #34 
                    - again, they are not the same thing. i have little choice who to pay taxes to  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-10-11 04:55 PM   #36 
                    - They're not in the same category, but you do have a choice  DerekG   Dec-10-11 05:14 PM   #38 
                       - not a legal one. nt  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-10-11 05:37 PM   #41 
                    - Oh please, that's bullshit and you know it....  Humanist_Activist   Dec-10-11 04:56 PM   #37 
                       - The difference is that our choice carries potential consequences  DerekG   Dec-10-11 05:21 PM   #39 
                          - Look, don't talk about the 1% and their tax shelters in such glowing terms...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-10-11 05:29 PM   #40 
           - Actually I don't, I don't make enough, I pay payroll taxes...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-10-11 04:54 PM   #35 
           - Priests who don't get along with the community don't last...  hunter   Dec-10-11 04:19 PM   #30 
  - As long as you don't tithe to the organization, I have no problem with you, but if you do...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-10-11 02:06 PM   #16 
  - isn't support in terms of membership still support?  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-10-11 02:29 PM   #18 
     - You bring up a good point, its just that to some people its like a drug...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-10-11 03:08 PM   #21 
        - yeah, i mean there are def different degrees of support so i get that  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-10-11 03:11 PM   #22 
           - Problem is that its really hard to "quit" the Church entirely...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-10-11 03:17 PM   #24 
              - i see your point. i def think getting excommunicated is WAY too much effort  La Lioness Priyanka   Dec-10-11 03:32 PM   #25 
                 - Well I was thinking of sending the Pope a picture of my bare ass and telling him to kiss it...  Humanist_Activist   Dec-10-11 03:46 PM   #27 
  - All that means is the the catholics are no different than any  Angry Dragon   Dec-10-11 03:36 PM   #26 
  - Being a Catholic, there are things I like  mvd   Dec-10-11 04:03 PM   #28 

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