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34. Because magic is a state of mind. There are ways to do it that can be very affirming.
I knew about Santa Claus so early I don't remember believing, but I did, and when I was older I was delighted to be "big enough to help make Christmas very special for the little ones" including sisters and some cousins. Reading them The Night Before Christmas was a place of honor in the family and I got to do it until the next little one could read well enough. We made cookies and I got to help them make the special Santa cookie, and I got great pleasure out of doing the "Is that sleigh bells I hear outside?" game. Any child who began to wonder was gently brought into the guild of magic-makers.

I have never understood the inability to experience wonder, either as its recipient or its creator. But then, I'm an elf, and we elves have always been wonder makers.

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  -Why do so many people think its OK to lie about Santa Claus? raccoon  Nov-17-11 03:02 PM   #0 
  - Yay!  redqueen   Nov-17-11 03:04 PM   #1 
  - I'm with you, redqueen!  CTyankee   Nov-17-11 03:08 PM   #12 
  - (sigh) Why can't kids just have dreams and fantasies instead of being shoved into reality so soon  DainBramaged   Nov-17-11 03:05 PM   #2 
  - Yes!  emilyg   Nov-17-11 11:09 PM   #50 
  - Oh great, let's start up the "War on Christmas" meme again. (nt)  JaneQPublic   Nov-17-11 03:05 PM   #3 
  - Someone starts it every year Like clockwork..  demosincebirth   Nov-17-11 03:49 PM   #33 
  - I don't think any kid really ever believes in Santa. I didn't  Mojambo   Nov-17-11 03:05 PM   #4 
  - You're wrong. I did, totally. So did my younger siblings.  pnwmom   Nov-17-11 03:07 PM   #8 
  - I agree ~ Santa rocks. I really believe(d). My mom acted as though she believed until the day she  poverlay   Nov-17-11 03:42 PM   #29 
  - Same here. My mom's explanation:  trof   Nov-17-11 06:34 PM   #48 
  - Same here. I pulled the beard off a department store Santa when I was two  Warpy   Nov-17-11 03:07 PM   #9 
  - I Know I Didn't  RobinA   Nov-18-11 03:11 PM   #71 
  - Corporation people? Or people people?  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-17-11 03:05 PM   #5 
  - What evidence do you have that Santa Claus does not exist?  jberryhill   Nov-17-11 03:06 PM   #6 
  - +1  redqueen   Nov-17-11 03:06 PM   #7 
  - You can't prove a negative. If you assert that he exists, the burden of proof is on you. nt  raccoon   Nov-17-11 03:07 PM   #10 
     - I do not assert that he exists  jberryhill   Nov-17-11 03:10 PM   #14 
  - same goes for jesus.......nt  bowens43   Nov-17-11 03:07 PM   #11 
  - FFS  NeedleCast   Nov-17-11 03:09 PM   #13 
  - Do you mean the fact that he exists or the fact that he uses elvish slave labor to make his toys?  ET Awful   Nov-17-11 03:12 PM   #15 
  - They were recruited from China and have better working conditions than those who make Apple products  Incitatus   Nov-17-11 03:14 PM   #18 
     - Yeah, I Mean  RobinA   Nov-18-11 03:15 PM   #72 
  - What will they say when the North Pole finally melts?  Incitatus   Nov-17-11 03:12 PM   #16 
  - They'll have to relocate him to Antarctica or the Moon.  MilesColtrane   Nov-18-11 11:48 AM   #61 
  - I did for my kids what my mom did for us,  SheilaT   Nov-17-11 03:14 PM   #17 
  - ..  abelenkpe   Nov-17-11 03:16 PM   #19 
  - What are you trying to say? There was a Santa, but physics got in the way.  HopeHoops   Nov-17-11 03:17 PM   #20 
  - No doubt written by a phyisicist with nothing better to do.  Manifestor_of_Light   Nov-17-11 03:20 PM   #22 
  - Or just insomnia. The calculations are rather simple, but it would take a while, even with a....  HopeHoops   Nov-17-11 04:29 PM   #38 
  - I've never seen that. thanks for posting. nt  raccoon   Nov-17-11 03:25 PM   #24 
  - My doubts about Santa were confirmed on 12/24/1962 at approx. 9:30 p.m.  catbyte   Nov-17-11 03:28 PM   #25 
  - I have 3 daughters. The oldest two both got to "play Santa" when they realized the truth.  HopeHoops   Nov-17-11 04:31 PM   #39 
  - Maybe his sleigh is pulled by neutrino reindeer?  MilesColtrane   Nov-18-11 11:51 AM   #62 
  - Love does not exist for some ........ does that mean it does not exist??  Angry Dragon   Nov-17-11 03:20 PM   #21 
  - No, it just got smashed by g-force.  HopeHoops   Nov-17-11 04:34 PM   #40 
  - With you.  elleng   Nov-17-11 03:21 PM   #23 
  - Better to be safe -- raise your kids as atheists.  eppur_se_muova   Nov-17-11 03:35 PM   #26 
  - It's pretty hard to do that unless you're isolating your kids  Major Nikon   Nov-17-11 04:05 PM   #36 
  - My atheist child believes in Santa Claus. nt  msanthrope   Nov-18-11 10:31 AM   #56 
  - Wow, Christmas creep. Usually this argument waits until after Thanksgiving!  jobycom   Nov-17-11 03:41 PM   #27 
  - Santa Claus is fun  Lunabelle   Nov-17-11 03:42 PM   #28 
  - It prepares people for the unfair shitstorm of life  Book Lover   Nov-17-11 03:42 PM   #30 
  - And because someone has to post it...  jobycom   Nov-17-11 03:45 PM   #31 
  - Thanks for the reminder!  pnwmom   Nov-17-11 05:11 PM   #41 
  - I have always loved this.  redwitch   Nov-17-11 05:48 PM   #46 
  - I just saw him at The Mall. What are you going on about?  Tuesday Afternoon   Nov-17-11 03:47 PM   #32 
  - I used that argument on myself until I was eight.  truedelphi   Nov-22-11 02:11 PM   #76 
  - Because magic is a state of mind. There are ways to do it that can be very affirming.  nolabear   Nov-17-11 03:54 PM   #34 
  - Yeah, part of it is a rite of passage  cemaphonic   Nov-17-11 05:32 PM   #45 
  - I am an atheist..  WillParkinson   Nov-18-11 12:34 PM   #65 
  - Happy holidays, elf.  truedelphi   Nov-22-11 02:12 PM   #77 
  - Stop trying to tell me there is no Santa Clause  liberal N proud   Nov-17-11 03:57 PM   #35 
  - I fail to see the problem.  Bladian   Nov-17-11 04:13 PM   #37 
  - I'm with you - I'm not a fan of telling false stories to children and claiming them as true  slay   Nov-17-11 05:16 PM   #42 
  - Good question... I am quite sure he gets ticked off  whistler162   Nov-17-11 05:31 PM   #43 
  - Good question... I am quite sure he gets ticked off  whistler162   Nov-17-11 05:31 PM   #44 
  - Hi, Raccoon! I don't think everyone does. In my family, we knew it really was our father and we...  freshwest   Nov-17-11 06:24 PM   #47 
  - Thanks for the good and well thought out response. nt  raccoon   Nov-18-11 07:48 AM   #52 
  - Thanks for yours, I thought I'd wasted my time. Thanks for the thread.  freshwest   Nov-18-11 10:22 AM   #55 
  - This ^  WillParkinson   Nov-18-11 12:36 PM   #67 
  - is it mid-November already?  fishwax   Nov-17-11 06:53 PM   #49 
  - Santa...  MiddleFingerMom   Nov-17-11 11:15 PM   #51 
  - Sorry to burst your bubble, MFM. nt  raccoon   Nov-18-11 07:49 AM   #53 
  - FLASHBACK. Macy's ... 1995  PassingFair   Nov-18-11 08:10 AM   #54 
  - *snort!* If you made that up you did a great job. I'm gonna steal it.  nolabear   Nov-18-11 11:21 AM   #57 
     - Can't make this crap kids INSISTED on the truth, the whole truth and nothing but!  PassingFair   Nov-18-11 11:29 AM   #59 
  - When I found out there was no Santa it shook me up so bad...  WillParkinson   Nov-18-11 11:23 AM   #58 
  - So, you're freshly shaved today?  bigwillq   Nov-18-11 11:33 AM   #60 
     - I shaved yesterday, thank you...  WillParkinson   Nov-18-11 12:32 PM   #64 
  - Who Knows, and Why Is It OK To Insist There's a Sky Daddy Floating Around?  we can do it   Nov-18-11 12:25 PM   #63 
  - Santa Claus shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.  Deep13   Nov-18-11 12:35 PM   #66 
  - You mean that Santa isn't real?  mysuzuki2   Nov-18-11 12:39 PM   #68 
  - it didn't hurt me when I found out he wasn't real  charlie and algernon   Nov-18-11 12:53 PM   #69 
  - Santa kinda backfired on my fundamentalist mother.  iris27   Nov-18-11 01:25 PM   #70 
  - At this young age, Santa is being presented as a dude  Dastard Stepchild   Nov-19-11 03:24 AM   #73 
  - Same reason I protected my kid from hearing about wars, murders and all kinds of BS  nini   Nov-19-11 08:26 PM   #74 
  - I never felt lied to, but have always wondered about this  treestar   Nov-19-11 08:38 PM   #75 
  - To me, it's all about the wonder of innocence of childhood  mvd   Nov-22-11 03:22 PM   #78 
  - At about 4 years old,  wildeyed   Nov-22-11 04:38 PM   #79 

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