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Sat Feb-05-11 11:13 AM
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| 33. I don't know any of the rules. They had a show on tv last night, |
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CA Fish & Game. They were chasing deer hunting poachers. They got one at his house, he had taken a doe and thrown it in the lake, as he said it was an accidental shot, and he didn't know what to do. They confiscated his gun, and gave him a court date to appear. But I do know that the deer herds back east have grown to outrageous sizes, and threaten road traffic a lot. Cars are wrecked and sometimes the driver killed, and motorcycles, if they hit a deer, it can be fatal. Plus I also know that the food banks for the needy can be enhanced with the venison. I don't know about the California venison, but, due to the diet, and the lack of water, it may be raunchy. The best stuff would possibly be in the farm areas, southern Michigan and others, where the deer are corn fed, or feed on good agricultural product. Better meat that way. I think there just aren't as many deer hunters as in previous years. dc
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| -PHOTO: How the HELL do you "hunt" this for "sport?" At what point does it seem like "fun?" |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Feb-04-11 09:12 PM |
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It's a mindset I can't begin to understand:( nt |
snagglepuss |
Feb-04-11 09:15 PM |
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First, you have to brainwash yourself into thinking you're a "hunter" |
flvegan |
Feb-04-11 09:31 PM |
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I don't think that is necessarily fair. |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Feb-05-11 09:34 PM |
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I don't hunt, but my grandfather and uncles hunted to feed their families. |
driver8 |
Feb-05-11 10:24 PM |
#56 |
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I agree. |
Badfish |
Feb-06-11 03:43 PM |
#64 |
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I'll be the first person |
flvegan |
Feb-06-11 04:50 PM |
#69 |
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The orignal poster said "for sport" |
HERVEPA |
Feb-06-11 05:42 PM |
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And after reading the thread .. |
Badfish |
Feb-06-11 05:53 PM |
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They paint a broad stroke too... |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Feb-06-11 05:54 PM |
#79 |
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If people need to hunt to eat... |
Lucian |
Feb-07-11 03:14 PM |
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My freezer works just fine |
Crystal Clarity |
Feb-07-11 04:07 PM |
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You can only keep one deer during the season. |
Lucian |
Feb-08-11 01:52 AM |
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Yes it does. |
Crystal Clarity |
Feb-08-11 02:26 AM |
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do you eat only one vegetable a year? argument fail. |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Feb-08-11 06:43 PM |
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+ 1,000000000000000. nt |
Lorien |
Feb-07-11 04:17 PM |
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so that means your ancestors were egomaniacs, right? got it. |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Feb-08-11 06:48 PM |
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Awwwww, how sweet! Being in the Bambi generation, |
Curmudgeoness |
Feb-04-11 09:35 PM |
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hunger. and please, no shit about groceries |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Feb-04-11 09:40 PM |
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yeah. plus lamb, goat, cows and chicken are cute too. |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Feb-04-11 10:24 PM |
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yeah. plus lamb, goat, cows and chicken are cute too. |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Feb-04-11 10:24 PM |
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I know, but I'm not addressing people who kill to survive |
Amerigo Vespucci |
Feb-05-11 04:15 AM |
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Don't be so sure about Ted. |
A Simple Game |
Feb-05-11 09:54 PM |
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I would venture to guess that everything the top 2% does is for "fun" |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Feb-07-11 08:15 AM |
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Anyone can be ignorant... |
LanternWaste |
Feb-05-11 02:38 PM |
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imagine hunger. and yes, you too can be ignorant but, can you be educated |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Feb-05-11 04:04 PM |
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He asked how they can do it for sport. |
Iggo |
Feb-07-11 10:35 AM |
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I don't know why "they" have decided to call it a "sport". -- |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Feb-07-11 10:09 PM |
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Zing! ... Whoosh! |
Crystal Clarity |
Feb-08-11 05:50 PM |
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Tuesday Afternoon |
Feb-07-11 10:09 PM |
#119 |
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. |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Feb-07-11 10:09 PM |
#120 |
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Actually, they don't hunt the fawns. Nor the does. And then they |
david13 |
Feb-04-11 09:42 PM |
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Don't know about California |
MicaelS |
Feb-04-11 11:00 PM |
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I don't know any of the rules. They had a show on tv last night, |
david13 |
Feb-05-11 11:13 AM |
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i saw that show, it was disgusting |
shanti |
Feb-06-11 05:50 PM |
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Ummmm... |
TheMightyFavog |
Feb-04-11 11:36 PM |
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Fawns no. Does - sometimes. |
OmahaBlueDog |
Feb-05-11 01:46 PM |
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That is the morality to it. The doe situation is based on the fact |
david13 |
Feb-05-11 02:33 PM |
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In Idaho they hunt does |
jmowreader |
Feb-06-11 04:18 PM |
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Gotta kill the does |
AngryAmish |
Feb-06-11 04:52 PM |
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Thank you. And for many farmers that cute animal is nothing more than a pest |
LynneSin |
Feb-07-11 11:51 AM |
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Even if this were true it would also be more honest than pulling up to a window... |
alphafemale |
Feb-04-11 09:45 PM |
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Ya shoot the adult males, not the fawns. |
Odin2005 |
Feb-04-11 10:13 PM |
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Or when they are so over crowded they are no longer healthy |
csziggy |
Feb-05-11 12:13 AM |
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I second what you say. Protein on the hoof is going to be harvested one |
hedgehog |
Feb-05-11 05:33 PM |
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The coyotes here are too used to humans just like the deer |
csziggy |
Feb-05-11 10:37 PM |
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We had a neighbor about half a mile away who used to keep tigers. |
hedgehog |
Feb-06-11 01:51 PM |
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Yeah, aside from the ethics of keeping the big cats confined at all |
csziggy |
Feb-06-11 04:07 PM |
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+1000000000000000 |
we can do it |
Feb-09-11 03:58 PM |
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Some people like to play with their food before eating it. |
jobycom |
Feb-04-11 10:22 PM |
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There would be lots more vegetarians if we all had to kill and clean our own meat. |
davsand |
Feb-04-11 10:24 PM |
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Been there done that |
LynneSin |
Feb-07-11 11:52 AM |
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Me, too. Which is why I'm vegetarian. |
jobycom |
Feb-07-11 03:02 PM |
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Never phased me that way but I have no desire to do it again |
LynneSin |
Feb-07-11 03:41 PM |
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I think there would be fewer. |
Deep13 |
Feb-07-11 03:11 PM |
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You know what happens when hunting gets outlawed? |
Archae |
Feb-04-11 10:30 PM |
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The wolves and lions and other predators would keep that in check. |
boppers |
Feb-04-11 10:34 PM |
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The deer still have natural predator enemies. |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Feb-05-11 06:18 AM |
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Deleted, double-click |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Feb-05-11 06:18 AM |
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To be fair, the first natives killed off our lions 10,000 years ago |
Odin2005 |
Feb-05-11 11:03 AM |
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I saw a mountain lion as recently as two years ago. |
boppers |
Feb-05-11 09:08 PM |
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They're cute too! |
boppers |
Feb-05-11 10:18 PM |
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Those aren't actual lions, though. |
Odin2005 |
Feb-06-11 11:30 AM |
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Actually, in the East, coyotes are moving into the niche previously |
hedgehog |
Feb-05-11 05:35 PM |
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I've never understood that line of thinking in the slightest. |
Xithras |
Feb-07-11 12:53 AM |
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My story on why I support deer hunting. |
TheMightyFavog |
Feb-04-11 11:43 PM |
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Archae's picture may be a worst-case scenario as far as car-deer crashes go... |
TheMightyFavog |
Feb-04-11 11:49 PM |
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What if that was a motorcycle? Many of our brethren have been killed that way. dc |
david13 |
Feb-06-11 05:41 PM |
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Only outlaws will have huntings? |
jobycom |
Feb-07-11 03:03 PM |
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Let's look at it from a different perspective... |
WillParkinson |
Feb-08-11 09:19 PM |
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When it's an adult. |
krispos42 |
Feb-04-11 11:33 PM |
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From a wildlife management point of view |
Mopar151 |
Feb-05-11 02:15 AM |
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Ewww. I've actually heard and seen that happen. (a predator after a deer) |
Crystal Clarity |
Feb-05-11 07:34 AM |
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Too late to edit, but I just now noticed |
Crystal Clarity |
Feb-05-11 09:00 AM |
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Don't kid yourself, Jimmy. |
MilesColtrane |
Feb-05-11 02:02 AM |
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I ate what I killed back when I still hunted. |
hobbit709 |
Feb-05-11 06:51 AM |
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At the point when you get the paycheck for going on TV to prove you CAN'T SHOOT WORTH SHIT! |
HopeHoops |
Feb-05-11 07:50 AM |
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It's possible to be cute and tasty; many animals do it. Personally, I'd shoot something with a |
Brickbat |
Feb-05-11 09:09 AM |
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There's no need to hunt |
Swampguana |
Feb-05-11 09:11 AM |
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You're kidding me right? |
LynneSin |
Feb-07-11 11:57 AM |
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A friend's farm had so many deer |
Inchworm |
Feb-08-11 03:10 AM |
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There's no need to hunt |
Swampguana |
Feb-05-11 09:11 AM |
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You're Canadian and you're against hunting? What next, |
david13 |
Feb-06-11 05:46 PM |
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My favorite part is when they talk about how quick a gunshot is... |
WillParkinson |
Feb-05-11 01:29 PM |
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+1000 |
flvegan |
Feb-05-11 02:02 PM |
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Yeah, I'll bet it didn't... |
MicaelS |
Feb-05-11 03:50 PM |
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+1,000 |
Mad_Dem_X |
Feb-07-11 02:41 PM |
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I'm sure the irony struck them, although not as hard as the bullets. n/t |
krispos42 |
Feb-07-11 11:12 PM |
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As slow as a gunshot *sometimes* may be, it's faster than starving to death. eom |
yawnmaster |
Feb-09-11 04:09 PM |
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It comes along with |
quakerboy |
Feb-05-11 01:43 PM |
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OK, I'll answer |
OmahaBlueDog |
Feb-05-11 02:16 PM |
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Great post, exactly my feelings n/t |
MicaelS |
Feb-05-11 03:51 PM |
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plus a brazillion |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Feb-05-11 04:32 PM |
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Thank you ... my feelings exactly ..... and I do hunt and fish .... |
littlewolf |
Feb-05-11 04:57 PM |
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The neighbor who hunts my land goes out with a camera |
hedgehog |
Feb-05-11 05:40 PM |
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Going out to kill an animal. Great way to bon with your kid |
HERVEPA |
Feb-06-11 05:48 PM |
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Many people certainly think so. |
OmahaBlueDog |
Feb-06-11 11:18 PM |
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It's far better than stuffing factory-farmed hamburgers full of shit into their holes. |
PeaceNikki |
Feb-06-11 11:32 PM |
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Or, they could be vegetarians, like my kids and grandkids (nt) |
HERVEPA |
Feb-07-11 09:54 AM |
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Such a long post that never addresses the issue of .. |
Badfish |
Feb-07-11 07:46 AM |
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Perhaps, like me, this poster |
Crystal Clarity |
Feb-07-11 08:11 AM |
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I don't think it's "Fun" in the sense of playing a game. I think it's more "sense of accomplishment" |
OmahaBlueDog |
Feb-08-11 05:11 PM |
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Ah, nothing like bonding with your kids than taking the life of something. |
Lucian |
Feb-07-11 03:16 PM |
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So, you don't fish with your kids? |
OmahaBlueDog |
Feb-08-11 05:11 PM |
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I imagine a lot of people get off on killing animals for sport |
LanternWaste |
Feb-05-11 02:41 PM |
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As cute as they are, you have to look at it from a preservation standpoint. |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Feb-05-11 09:28 PM |
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Texas has a briazillion hunters and a brazillion deer hit by cars. |
jobycom |
Feb-07-11 03:13 PM |
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Hunting has replaced wolves and other predators in controlling deer population. |
Kaleva |
Feb-05-11 10:07 PM |
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Pennsylvania still holds pigeon shoots which are beyond barbaric. |
Altoid_Cyclist |
Feb-06-11 11:47 AM |
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Interestingly, most respondents here have evaded the "sport" and "fun" aspects of your query. |
Heidi |
Feb-06-11 01:57 PM |
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Maybe it's because we don't really understand the mindset |
Crystal Clarity |
Feb-06-11 03:30 PM |
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but, really -- what isit, that is so hard to understand... |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Feb-06-11 03:38 PM |
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Well, that sounds pretty callous. |
HERVEPA |
Feb-06-11 05:49 PM |
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oh dear ... go buy a steroid laden chicken in a store then... |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Feb-06-11 06:45 PM |
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Do people think that cows die of happy old age and land on their plates? |
PeaceNikki |
Feb-06-11 11:39 PM |
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Maybe not. I'm a vegetarian. Next argument please. |
HERVEPA |
Feb-07-11 09:50 AM |
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That's YOUR choice, but please don't sermonize here. |
Joe Fields |
Feb-08-11 01:13 AM |
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That goes both ways... |
WillParkinson |
Feb-08-11 09:17 PM |
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then do please explain. I'm all ears. So far, the "other" side |
Joe Fields |
Feb-09-11 08:30 AM |
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I don't look down on omnivores... |
WillParkinson |
Feb-09-11 12:26 PM |
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I marvel at people who think I can wave a magic fucking wand |
Joe Fields |
Feb-09-11 02:38 PM |
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My sermon... |
WillParkinson |
Feb-09-11 03:01 PM |
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You answered nothing. I was looking for a solution from the other side. |
Joe Fields |
Feb-10-11 12:50 AM |
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As I said... |
WillParkinson |
Feb-10-11 01:24 AM |
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That is not what you directed to me originally. |
Joe Fields |
Feb-10-11 03:07 PM |
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Excuse me? |
WillParkinson |
Feb-10-11 04:46 PM |
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go suck a vegan hot dog then. next smart ass remark, please. |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Feb-08-11 04:47 PM |
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Sport or fun may not be the proper words. One way or another |
david13 |
Feb-06-11 05:34 PM |
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There are primal urges that we can choose not to follow. |
HERVEPA |
Feb-07-11 09:52 AM |
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Uh, yeah, I know. I didn't say I was a hunter, did I? dc |
david13 |
Feb-07-11 09:28 PM |
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I didn't say you were. |
HERVEPA |
Feb-08-11 04:53 PM |
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Are you telling us that you have claimed the moral high ground? |
Joe Fields |
Feb-08-11 01:15 AM |
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OK |
HERVEPA |
Feb-08-11 04:54 PM |
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You must think you are really special. |
Joe Fields |
Feb-10-11 12:51 AM |
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People have hunted for 2 million years, so of course people find it enjoyable. |
Odin2005 |
Feb-09-11 11:47 PM |
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I hate the thought but I understand the need. |
Sky Masterson |
Feb-06-11 03:57 PM |
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You DON'T hunt that for sport... |
jmowreader |
Feb-06-11 04:07 PM |
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Informative posting from Cornell University: |
triguy46 |
Feb-06-11 07:34 PM |
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Much More Humane |
On the Road |
Feb-06-11 11:38 PM |
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Much More Humane |
On the Road |
Feb-06-11 11:38 PM |
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Been asking myself that question for a long time. It is "fun" to some. To most? I wonder. nt |
Skip Intro |
Feb-07-11 12:38 AM |
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It's only a sport if |
Mad_Dem_X |
Feb-07-11 02:40 PM |
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If you live in the city, it's hard to understand, unless you have an open mind. |
Joe Fields |
Feb-07-11 02:44 PM |
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I don't hunt |
Kali |
Feb-07-11 03:01 PM |
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Imagine it's more than 18 inches away... |
Deep13 |
Feb-07-11 03:09 PM |
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On the friends topic |
RandomThoughts |
Feb-07-11 05:15 PM |
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Head on fire? |
Deep13 |
Feb-07-11 10:04 PM |
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Yup. You don't |
Enthusiast |
Feb-07-11 03:36 PM |
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I think it's built into the DNA. I don't hunt, but understand the folks who |
Old Troop |
Feb-07-11 07:52 PM |
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it's what cowards do |
Skittles |
Feb-07-11 10:02 PM |
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Would you call Native Americans cowards? |
Kaleva |
Feb-07-11 11:19 PM |
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anyone who kills for FUN is a COWARD - END OF STORY |
Skittles |
Feb-07-11 11:45 PM |
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I' ll take that as a Yes to my question. |
Kaleva |
Feb-08-11 12:00 AM |
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done |
Skittles |
Feb-08-11 12:05 AM |
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So, sport fishermen are cowards? |
OmahaBlueDog |
Feb-08-11 06:53 PM |
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have you ever in your life eaten meat? |
Joe Fields |
Feb-08-11 01:17 AM |
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When deer populations get out of control, I fully support allowing hunting |
NuclearDem |
Feb-08-11 01:01 AM |
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If you're starving, then it's fine to hunt... |
WillParkinson |
Feb-08-11 09:14 PM |
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Had some deer meat this evening |
Inchworm |
Feb-08-11 03:01 AM |
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Hunting sucks. |
Highway61 |
Feb-08-11 06:56 AM |
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Dear Skinner, EarlG, & Mods: The Lounge??!!! Really???? |
OmahaBlueDog |
Feb-08-11 05:06 PM |
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I hadn't seen this until it was moved. |
HuckleB |
Feb-08-11 05:54 PM |
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Absolutely adorable... I'll tell you how I hunt for what you call "Fun" or "Sport"... |
Glassunion |
Feb-08-11 06:38 PM |
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I fully understand the hunting for need argument. |
panader0 |
Feb-08-11 08:11 PM |
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On the topic of where is the good |
RandomThoughts |
Feb-08-11 09:30 PM |
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All hunters are Neanderthals |
OwnedByFerrets |
Feb-09-11 01:50 PM |
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I'm not surprised you said that, since ferrets own you. |
Joe Fields |
Feb-10-11 12:53 AM |
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We like to play God when it comes to animals |
Kaleva |
Feb-10-11 01:30 AM |
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I don't know, but I do know that it's fun to eat meat |
Hippo_Tron |
Feb-10-11 01:53 AM |
#165 |