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Sun Jan-02-11 02:05 PM
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I'd argue that they're probably misusing it and thus deserve mockery for it...much like my brother who uses "Je'ne sais quot" ("I don't know what") when he means "flair, style or panache". The fact that he has no idea what "je'ne sais quot" means is beautifully ironic...just like when he thought "scatological" meant "esoteric".
So, I'd say it's more legitimate to question people who seem to be misusing it or using in the sexist context as to what they think it means followed by much mockery and a lecture on etymology than it is to buy into their dilution and corruption of language.
I admit, I think of language as absolute and beautiful. I also tend to earn the reputation that I'm an elitist shit.
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| -Is 'balls to the wall' sexist language? |
pokerfan |
Dec-30-10 03:37 PM |
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Nope. |
Iggo |
Dec-30-10 03:41 PM |
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I think so, I wouldn't use it. |
jobycom |
Dec-30-10 03:44 PM |
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But all it means is 'full throttle" |
pokerfan |
Dec-30-10 03:49 PM |
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Yeah. |
jobycom |
Dec-30-10 04:00 PM |
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Actually, it is not sexist at all. |
av8rdave |
Dec-30-10 05:27 PM |
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nice etymological history - good to know! |
tigereye |
Dec-30-10 07:21 PM |
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Just because you missed the double entendre doesn't mean most pilots did. nt |
jobycom |
Dec-31-10 04:54 AM |
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Hell, yeah. |
Orsino |
Dec-31-10 02:38 PM |
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I didn't miss anything about it. Re-read the origin. |
av8rdave |
Dec-31-10 06:34 PM |
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So, for the second time since 2004 I wander into the Lounge, |
watrwefitinfor |
Dec-31-10 06:04 AM |
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If you believe that one,...... |
WinkyDink |
Dec-31-10 12:44 PM |
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You are just an anti-pikotite. |
jobycom |
Dec-31-10 05:15 PM |
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Um, fighter pilots are both genders these days |
av8rdave |
Dec-31-10 06:36 PM |
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Dec-31-10 10:38 PM |
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I thought it came from centrifugal governors? |
krispos42 |
Jan-01-11 12:31 AM |
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I think that's "Balls Out". n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jan-02-11 03:30 PM |
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Bingo! I remember 'throttle, prop, and mixture'. |
trof |
Jan-02-11 04:13 PM |
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Oh, for the love of God...! Cut that fucking politically correct crap! |
DutchLiberal |
Dec-31-10 10:36 PM |
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Not necessarily... |
MiddleFingerMom |
Dec-30-10 03:47 PM |
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if balls = testicles |
Kali |
Dec-30-10 03:53 PM |
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But it doesn't in this case |
pokerfan |
Dec-30-10 04:23 PM |
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then whoever called you on it owes an apology if you ask me! |
Kali |
Dec-30-10 04:40 PM |
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I had thought it was testicle oriented as well... |
NewJeffCT |
Dec-30-10 04:48 PM |
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But that's exactly why this phrase IS a bit sexist in current use. |
Orsino |
Dec-31-10 02:36 PM |
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So, if a batter in a baseball game has a count of 2 balls on him, is that sexist? |
av8rdave |
Dec-31-10 06:39 PM |
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I refer you back to "context is all." |
Orsino |
Dec-31-10 06:54 PM |
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I disagree |
av8rdave |
Dec-31-10 10:07 PM |
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we do it all the time. |
OhioBlue |
Jan-01-11 01:31 AM |
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I get your point, but... |
av8rdave |
Jan-01-11 09:08 AM |
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Happy New Year to you as well |
OhioBlue |
Jan-01-11 11:03 PM |
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No one's talking about "going back and changing the original meaning"... |
Orsino |
Jan-01-11 05:44 PM |
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Your last paragraph. |
Chan790 |
Jan-01-11 11:05 PM |
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Then could you explain how people unfamiliar with the original meaning... |
Orsino |
Jan-02-11 11:37 AM |
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Well... |
Chan790 |
Jan-02-11 02:05 PM |
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You're correct, but because someone who doesn't know better finds it offensive |
av8rdave |
Jan-02-11 10:26 AM |
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Right. Only someone who keeps using it... |
Orsino |
Jan-02-11 11:39 AM |
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I use it all the time. The people I use it with (male AND female) are informed and aware |
av8rdave |
Jan-02-11 04:53 PM |
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I couldn't ask for more than that. n/t |
Orsino |
Jan-03-11 08:57 AM |
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I had a baseball date once |
panader0 |
Jan-02-11 10:36 AM |
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Etymology is absolutist. |
Chan790 |
Jan-01-11 10:56 PM |
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I'll bet you a bundle of faggots that you are incorrect on this point. |
Orsino |
Jan-02-11 11:45 AM |
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except it was always, always meant as a double entendre. |
Capn Sunshine |
Dec-30-10 05:28 PM |
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Right. NOBODY TODAY is using it in ANY sense other than the off-color one. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-31-10 12:47 PM |
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If balls must = testicles, then please don't watch any sports events on TV! |
av8rdave |
Dec-31-10 06:37 PM |
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No. It has nothing to do with testicles. |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
Dec-30-10 04:02 PM |
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thanks! |
Kali |
Dec-30-10 04:36 PM |
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Thank you |
av8rdave |
Jan-01-11 09:15 AM |
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So you escaped from ATL and missed the blizzard mess out East. |
The Velveteen Ocelot |
Jan-01-11 12:38 PM |
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I've never used it because it made no sense to me, and sounded painful |
petronius |
Dec-30-10 04:24 PM |
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Is "man in the boat?" |
Inchworm |
Dec-30-10 04:32 PM |
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There will always be someone who will find anything you say offensive. |
madinmaryland |
Dec-30-10 04:34 PM |
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Witness some of the replies in this thread. n/t |
cherokeeprogressive |
Dec-31-10 05:44 PM |
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I think your post would have been better served |
lukasahero |
Dec-30-10 04:46 PM |
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Thank you |
pokerfan |
Dec-30-10 04:59 PM |
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Joby is wrong. |
Chan790 |
Jan-01-11 11:24 PM |
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Dec-30-10 04:53 PM |
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~ |
Moondog |
Dec-30-10 05:02 PM |
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ehh, I always thought it simply meant "intense" |
tigereye |
Dec-30-10 05:18 PM |
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To me to be sexist |
tinkerbell41 |
Dec-30-10 05:23 PM |
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I don't think so... |
one_voice |
Dec-30-10 05:39 PM |
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Sexist? I don't know. Vulgar, definitely yes. |
Redstone |
Dec-30-10 05:43 PM |
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Only Udo Dirkschneider knows for sure |
Throd |
Dec-30-10 06:11 PM |
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I can't believe how far this thread got before someone posted that. |
Withywindle |
Dec-31-10 07:06 PM |
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Nnnnaw! |
MrScorpio |
Dec-30-10 06:18 PM |
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Oh, the copycat threads I self-censored!!!!!! n/t |
MiddleFingerMom |
Dec-30-10 07:02 PM |
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I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody. |
HughBeaumont |
Dec-31-10 07:02 AM |
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can i just say -- i LOVE cursing -- cursey type phrases? |
xchrom |
Dec-31-10 07:11 AM |
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No, it is NOT sexist. |
LucySky |
Dec-31-10 08:37 AM |
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It's a vulgarism, if that's what you wanted to know. (PLEASE don't use that "etymology with pilots" |
WinkyDink |
Dec-31-10 12:44 PM |
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Udo didn't think so. |
Forkboy |
Dec-31-10 05:20 PM |
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It wouldn't make any sense if it was supposedly sexist. |
Kaleva |
Dec-31-10 05:26 PM |
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"Testicles to the wall?" um, no, I don't think so. |
ThomCat |
Dec-31-10 08:09 PM |
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copykick |
MiddleFingerMom |
Dec-31-10 09:24 PM |
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all male children should be aborted since they are *potentially* rapists |
datasuspect |
Jan-01-11 07:04 AM |
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The Land of the Amazons |
Angry Dragon |
Jan-01-11 01:25 PM |
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is that "your way?" |
Skittles |
Jan-01-11 09:54 PM |
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Isn't "balls to the wall" another way of saying walnuts? |
Recovered Repug |
Jan-01-11 04:23 PM |
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Crude, but I don't see what's sexist about it. Kind of like saying a business went tits-up. |
JVS |
Jan-01-11 09:56 PM |
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I got called out for using the word "picnic" once |
alphafemale |
Jan-02-11 03:37 AM |
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no. |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Jan-02-11 10:55 AM |
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Only if you can compare going really fast to |
cherokeeprogressive |
Jan-02-11 02:17 PM |
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splinters from wall |
Bucky |
Jan-02-11 03:05 PM |
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tits in the wringer? |
snooper2 |
Jan-03-11 11:07 AM |
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If it's supposed to mean "testicles to the wall", ... |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jan-03-11 11:52 AM |
#84 |
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