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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #54
61. Transplant patients and those with artificial limbs
They are still themselves. When you undergo the operation, you are not transformed the way the teleporter does it.

There is the additional question of whether the consciousness lost under general anaesthesia is the same one that returns.

Regarding your sentiment of the transporter, what if there is a transporter malfunction, and the original isn't destroyed in transport, and a copy is created? Which one is you?
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  -Transporter question, breakdown by atheists/theists. TXlib  Mar-29-04 03:56 PM   #0 
  - uhh WTF?  Alex146   Mar-29-04 03:57 PM   #1 
  - I have a hypothesis  TXlib   Mar-29-04 03:59 PM   #5 
     - I agree with your hypothesis  felonious thunk   Mar-29-04 04:03 PM   #9 
     - But B doesn't care, and ...  damnraddem   Mar-29-04 04:28 PM   #28 
     - The trouble is when you ask the thing that comes out the other side  Az   Mar-29-04 04:10 PM   #15 
     - But if you were forced through the machine  TXlib   Mar-29-04 04:17 PM   #20 
        - The person coming out the other side  Az   Mar-29-04 04:21 PM   #22 
     - Why?  damnraddem   Mar-29-04 04:26 PM   #26 
     - Huh?  BullGooseLoony   Mar-31-04 12:09 AM   #78 
        - Here's how I see it:  TXlib   Mar-31-04 07:40 AM   #80 
  - I am an atheist  cprise   Mar-29-04 03:58 PM   #2 
  - I would  Duckiesplaything   Mar-29-04 04:01 PM   #8 
  - Thank you TXlib!  everythingsxen   Mar-29-04 03:58 PM   #3 
  - But...  Concerned GA Voter   Mar-29-04 04:00 PM   #6 
     - But if we take it to the next level, it's problematic  felonious thunk   Mar-29-04 04:05 PM   #11 
     - No, check it out..  everythingsxen   Mar-29-04 04:16 PM   #19 
     - If the machine has to take all the info about you, transmit it, and ...  damnraddem   Mar-29-04 04:36 PM   #30 
        - The continuity really is quite important  Az   Mar-29-04 04:41 PM   #33 
        - Exactly Az!  everythingsxen   Mar-29-04 04:49 PM   #39 
        - OK, now your conjecture has it destroy me after reading my info.  damnraddem   Mar-29-04 04:55 PM   #41 
        - No they aren't both you..  everythingsxen   Mar-29-04 05:05 PM   #44 
        - Go read Altered Carbon  LynzM   Mar-30-04 12:58 PM   #71 
           - That sounds interesting!  TXlib   Mar-30-04 02:28 PM   #72 
        - Which one?  GTRMAN   Mar-30-04 12:05 AM   #49 
        - That reminds me of a scifi story I read once.  FlaGranny   Mar-31-04 11:52 AM   #85 
     - You would have no way of knowing anything  Az   Mar-29-04 04:33 PM   #29 
        - Exactly.  TXlib   Apr-01-04 08:59 AM   #87 
  - If it reassembles me correctly.  classics   Mar-29-04 03:59 PM   #4 
  - you lost me  Demman   Mar-29-04 04:00 PM   #7 
  - No... your conciousness  Dookus   Mar-29-04 04:05 PM   #10 
  - On what do you base your opinion?  TXlib   Mar-29-04 04:08 PM   #12 
  - because I don't believe there *IS*  Dookus   Mar-29-04 04:09 PM   #14 
  - So you think there would be a continuity of consciousness  TXlib   Mar-29-04 04:12 PM   #17 
     - well it's hard to say  Dookus   Mar-29-04 04:18 PM   #21 
     - Rather, would one experience a continuity of consciousness?  damnraddem   Mar-29-04 04:41 PM   #32 
  - How do you know that ...  damnraddem   Mar-29-04 04:39 PM   #31 
     - I'm postulating that it's a perfect copy.  TXlib   Mar-29-04 04:41 PM   #34 
        - Technology exists to get my bags to my airline destination.  damnraddem   Mar-29-04 04:47 PM   #38 
           - The point of the question isn't whether you trust technology.  TXlib   Mar-30-04 08:01 AM   #55 
  - But what if the you at Point A ISN'T DESTROYED?  0rganism   Mar-29-04 04:26 PM   #25 
  - The bigger question...  Xithras   Mar-29-04 04:09 PM   #13 
  - For those who would NOT use the transporter: a follow-up question:  TXlib   Mar-29-04 04:12 PM   #16 
  - How did you know when you woke up this morning, ...  damnraddem   Mar-29-04 04:46 PM   #37 
     - That is very true  Az   Mar-29-04 04:51 PM   #40 
        - I agree with Az  TXlib   Mar-30-04 08:02 AM   #56 
  - Since our memories are like computers  NewHampster   Mar-29-04 04:16 PM   #18 
  - Actually, we're not like silicon computers. We store memories chemically.  damnraddem   Mar-29-04 04:44 PM   #36 
  - I'm an agnostic, and ...  damnraddem   Mar-29-04 04:23 PM   #23 
  - *smack*  TXlib   Mar-29-04 04:25 PM   #24 
     - Smack?  damnraddem   Mar-29-04 04:56 PM   #42 
        - *smack*, as in *thwap*  TXlib   Mar-29-04 06:52 PM   #46 
  - Wow, I am impressed  LeviathanCrumbling   Mar-29-04 04:27 PM   #27 
  - No yak transporting  Az   Mar-29-04 04:43 PM   #35 
  - If your wife used a fax-transporter, ...  damnraddem   Mar-29-04 04:57 PM   #43 
  - What if it transported you via hyperspace?  foamdad   Mar-29-04 05:10 PM   #45 
  - Then, if I understand your question  TXlib   Mar-30-04 08:05 AM   #57 
  - Oh man, you!  SarahBelle   Mar-29-04 08:22 PM   #47 
  - Interesting philosophy quiz and article about this very topic!  TXlib   Mar-29-04 11:40 PM   #48 
  - lol  lazarus   Mar-30-04 12:08 AM   #50 
  - I think the debate is more interesting sober.  TXlib   Mar-30-04 08:09 AM   #58 
  - What's religion have to do with this?  Triple H   Mar-30-04 12:09 AM   #51 
  - See my reply above  TXlib   Mar-30-04 08:12 AM   #59 
  - I wouldn't use the transporter...  Kathleen04   Mar-30-04 12:13 AM   #52 
  - reply  TXlib   Mar-30-04 08:15 AM   #60 
  - Sorry Tex, no help for your theories here.  SOteric   Mar-30-04 01:17 AM   #53 
  - I’ve been invited to expand on my statements  SOteric   Mar-30-04 11:45 AM   #63 
     - Some additional questions:  TXlib   Mar-30-04 12:18 PM   #65 
        - Je nais se quoi  SOteric   Mar-30-04 03:01 PM   #73 
           - "Was it Heaven or Hell?" -- what's that?  TXlib   Mar-31-04 07:45 AM   #81 
           - Gak! A "little light reading", indeed!  TXlib   Mar-31-04 08:08 AM   #83 
  - What about transplant patients  Mobius   Mar-30-04 04:54 AM   #54 
  - Transplant patients and those with artificial limbs  TXlib   Mar-30-04 08:22 AM   #61 
  - This brings up an interesting question  lazarus   Mar-30-04 09:53 AM   #62 
  - If you can maintain your head alive separate from the body  TXlib   Mar-30-04 12:21 PM   #66 
  - We have this brain we made  Az   Mar-30-04 11:47 AM   #64 
     - I'm assuming that you can "download" the mind of the current brain  TXlib   Mar-30-04 12:24 PM   #67 
     - The Download scerio exemplifies it even better  Az   Mar-30-04 03:05 PM   #74 
     - I contend that perception is reality  Mobius   Mar-31-04 01:46 AM   #79 
  - How a transporter would really work...  Abaques   Mar-30-04 12:28 PM   #68 
  - I recall a Sci Fi story like that...  TXlib   Mar-30-04 12:37 PM   #69 
  - From Fictionwise.com: Think Like A Dinosaur  TXlib   Mar-30-04 12:41 PM   #70 
  - No way in hell  lojasmo   Mar-30-04 03:12 PM   #75 
  - "Mind's I"?  TXlib   Mar-30-04 11:28 PM   #76 
     - Book  lojasmo   Mar-31-04 11:45 AM   #84 
  - "Who is to say that what is reassembled at point B is not actually you,  BullGooseLoony   Mar-31-04 12:07 AM   #77 
  - Yes, to the external world, the new person is you.  TXlib   Mar-31-04 07:52 AM   #82 
  - One person I asked about this had an interesting take on this...  TXlib   Mar-31-04 03:40 PM   #86 
 

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