Reply #61: I think many Christians incline to the notion that sin is it's own punishment.

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The Fundies still look for a wrathful Judge, but not all of us do. It's not entirely a new point of view. Peter who repents is instantly forgiven, as is Paul. Paul does have to work through his redemption after his experience on the Road to Damascus, but he is set directly on the path. On the other hand, Judas condemned himself by committing suicide. He refused forgiveness.