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Reply #106: I have several reasons for not having children, due to both circumstances and my own choices [View All]

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106. I have several reasons for not having children, due to both circumstances and my own choices
One of the circumstances is that for various reasons, including some problems that I had when I was young, but also due to some choices I have made as an adult, I have so far not had any serious relationship with a woman. This is admittedly one of the biggest disappointments of my life. (I am a 58 year old heterosexual male.)

However I am not at all disappointed that I do not have children.

First of all I had a very difficult and unhappy childhood and adolescence, and it was a struggle for me as a young adult for me to really become happy and to be at peace with life and to enjoy being alive. Just having very painful memories of my own unhappy childhood and youth, I have not wanted to have my own children.

One of the big and major problems I had, well into my adulthood, was my relationship with my father. He was an excellent provider for his family, and did many very nice things for me and for his family, and many very good things, and often helped me out with things like schoolwork. However he was a very strong-minded, dominating person, and was often very judgmental. He was often very poor at understanding, from my point of view, some difficult or sensitive issue which was causing me to be upset, frustrated, or otherwise unhappy. And he often decided in Godlike fashion that I needed to be yelled at or bawled out like I had committed a crime when I made an honest mistake, honestly forgot something, or something was not according to his standards. And he would always say that what he was saying or doing was “for my own good”.

It seemed like according to my dad the important thing in life was to live up to his, or somebody else’s, rules, expectations, and standards. It seemed like to him life was a matter of duty (even though at times he might tell me to enjoy myself). He would sometimes remind me that it is a “cruel world”.

His attitude and his manner did very little to inspire me with confidence in myself as a person in my own right, and as one who could handle things and make it in the world. He would not let me make my own mistakes.

It was a major source of frustration for me that even as a young man I often ended up being intimidated by my dad (or charmed when he was really nice) and went along with things he said or did that I really did not feel were OK.

My dad died when I was in my mid-30’s. It was about a year after his death that I became fully aware of how angry I still was at my dad, and that he had actually at times been abusive, or at least borderline so. I.e. it was not just something wrong with me that I had problems with him, and was often angry with him and resented things he said and did, which anger and resentment spilled out toward other people and to other areas of my life (such as my jobs, and socially).

My feelings about my own dad have been a major contributing factor to a very strong distaste toward the idea of being a dad myself.

And given what we now know about global warming, and the threat to our planet’s sustainability, as well as what the GWB misadministration and the wealthy elites have done to ruin our country and our country’s economy (and the fact that the foundations for GWB to do what he did were laid long before he came into power), I am now very happy that I do not have any children, or grandchildren, who are going to have to deal with all this. And anyway, at age 58, I am now past the age at which most people would want to have children. And I don’t like the idea of being in my 70’s when my children would be teenagers.

I am very happy with the responses to this thread of people having children who love children and have wanted to have them, and feel that their children are the best thing on the planet. It is wonderful for somebody to have children who loves children, and wants to have them, and -- very importantly -- is able to handle the responsibilities of raising them, taking care of them, and giving them the love and attention that they need.

And I am also happy with the responses to this thread of people not having children who realize that they have not really wanted them and/or are not able to handle the responsibilities of raising them.

I think that it is very wrong for anybody to be made to feel that they “should” have children for any other reason that one really loves children and wants to have them. It is particularly wrong for anybody to be made to feel that they have any kind of duty to have children, such as a duty to God or any kind of religious duty, or a duty to one’s parents (to provide them with grandchildren) or to other relatives.

I despise the religious right, and one of the most reprehensible things that some people on the religious right are saying is that people have a duty to have children, and that they are being selfish to not have children, and especially that Christians have a duty to supposedly allow God to provide them with as many children as God would wish or see fit to provide them.

I myself have never had any pressure from family to get married or to have children. However sometimes I have been a little bit offended, or at least irritated, if somebody in casual conversation asks how many children I have, or asks if I have children in a tone which sounds like I “should” have children. One time at a soup and salad buffet restaurant, the day after Halloween one year, a woman behind the counter asked me if I went trick-or treating with my children. I reminded her that there are people who do not have children. I did find her question offensive, with its implication that I “should” have children (she said I looked like a daddy). Hey, there might be any number of very personal reasons why somebody might not have children, whether by choice or by circumstance.

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  Why did you have (or not have) children? Bonn1997  Jun-21-09 03:34 PM   #0 
   biological imperative i think the phrase is  vadawg   Jun-21-09 03:36 PM   #1 
   From what I've observed, they can be the best thing on the planet or the worst thing on the planet  Bonn1997   Jun-21-09 03:43 PM   #2 
      i guess it was, culturally i come from large families, and i mean really large  vadawg   Jun-21-09 04:03 PM   #7 
   A handful of traumas in the ambient environment wrecked me as a child...  Deja Q   Jun-21-09 03:43 PM   #3 
   Could never get a second date. n/t  Mojambo   Jun-21-09 03:44 PM   #4 
   DUzy! DUzy!  Brigid   Jun-21-09 05:19 PM   #28 
   Some procreate on the first date!  kwassa   Jun-21-09 11:42 PM   #44 
   I was at my grandma's funeral when I was 8 and had a good look at the gene pool.  graywarrior   Jun-21-09 03:48 PM   #5 
   You were too busy torturing the DUCK and then you stole my turtle!  madinmaryland   Jun-21-09 04:05 PM   #8 
   LOL  graywarrior   Jun-21-09 04:57 PM   #20 
   Sorry I didn't have that opportunity.  elleng   Jun-22-09 07:55 AM   #68 
   My dear Bonn1997!  CaliforniaPeggy   Jun-21-09 04:01 PM   #6 
   fun and educational  Kali   Jun-21-09 07:17 PM   #40 
   A very important question.  Callalily   Jun-21-09 04:05 PM   #9 
   You could be me  AwakeAtLast   Jun-22-09 08:01 AM   #69 
   Wife cannot bear children,  petersondDU Moderator   Jun-21-09 04:05 PM   #10 
   Good for you!  Dappleganger   Jun-21-09 07:03 PM   #38 
   I don't want any kids.  bigwillq   Jun-21-09 04:12 PM   #11 
   Never wanted any  NV Whino   Jun-21-09 04:19 PM   #12 
   I forgot.  Gormy Cuss   Jun-21-09 04:20 PM   #13 
   Ditto, and...  Critters2   Jun-21-09 04:51 PM   #17 
   Never wanted any.  Pharlo   Jun-21-09 04:23 PM   #14 
   I just don't have the patience.  ShenandoahAspen   Jun-21-09 04:24 PM   #15 
   +1  lizerdbits   Jun-21-09 05:03 PM   #21 
   I do not have children  blueamy66   Jun-21-09 04:26 PM   #16 
   .  Franzia   Jun-21-09 04:52 PM   #18 
   Both my wife and I didn't want to risk doing what was done to us.  hobbit709   Jun-21-09 04:53 PM   #19 
   Many reasons  Haole Girl   Jun-21-09 05:10 PM   #22 
   Being a parent just makes life so much richer  cherish44   Jun-21-09 05:10 PM   #23 
   our daughter was a surprise,  Maine-ah   Jun-21-09 05:11 PM   #24 
   And it's about time to update your sig pic!  mainegreen   Jun-24-09 10:49 AM   #101 
   To get a second chance at life n/t  Xipe Totec   Jun-21-09 05:13 PM   #25 
   Organ bank.  AngryAmish   Jun-21-09 05:15 PM   #26 
   Just didn't. n/t  Moondog   Jun-21-09 05:17 PM   #27 
   Because I couldn't.  Brigid   Jun-21-09 05:24 PM   #29 
   It is utterly fascinating to watch a baby grow up ...  surrealAmerican   Jun-21-09 05:59 PM   #30 
   It's hard to put into words. I had a gut feeling I wanted children.  Arugula Latte   Jun-21-09 06:07 PM   #31 
   Not financially sound enough.  Forkboy   Jun-21-09 06:18 PM   #32 
   A few reasons.  Pool Hall Ace   Jun-21-09 06:36 PM   #33 
   hmm, we were getting older and it was something we felt we really wanted  tigereye   Jun-21-09 06:40 PM   #34 
   Absolutely zero desire to have kids  enigmatic   Jun-21-09 06:41 PM   #35 
   To work in the cotton fields, of course!  Dappleganger   Jun-21-09 07:00 PM   #36 
   I decided no children because  Texasgal   Jun-21-09 07:01 PM   #37 
   Uncontrollable libido and forgetful spouse.  jobycom   Jun-21-09 07:07 PM   #39 
   Still not sure to this day. Never thought I would.  Kali   Jun-21-09 07:24 PM   #41 
   Never wanted any; sterilized twice  REP   Jun-21-09 08:29 PM   #42 
   Didn't have kids with first husband--married 7 years. Best decision of my life.  mnhtnbb   Jun-21-09 11:34 PM   #43 
   Because we wanted children, that's why we adopted.  kwassa   Jun-21-09 11:45 PM   #45 
   Too many people in the world as it is without me adding more.  kentauros   Jun-21-09 11:57 PM   #46 
   I do not, for one nano-second, regret my kids.  BarenakedLady   Jun-22-09 12:00 AM   #47 
   I screwed up my dogs bad enough.  littlebit   Jun-22-09 12:02 AM   #48 
   I blame cheap beer and poor judgement  mcctatas   Jun-22-09 12:07 AM   #49 
   The booze helped a LOT!  dropkickpa   Jun-23-09 08:40 AM   #84 
   I was allergic to being pregnant.  ohheckyeah   Jun-22-09 12:11 AM   #50 
   no reason; just never happened--possibly the single greatest regret of my life  abq e streeter   Jun-22-09 12:13 AM   #51 
   Just not that interested.  Withywindle   Jun-22-09 01:17 AM   #52 
   I grew up with the conviction the human race will destroy itself  csziggy   Jun-22-09 01:26 AM   #53 
   Did not think I would be a good parent  Missy Vixen   Jun-22-09 01:27 AM   #54 
   Nothing but pure selfishness  hyphenate   Jun-22-09 01:32 AM   #55 
   I hear ya there. The thought of having less/no time for many things I like is unappealing...  Bonn1997   Jun-22-09 06:54 AM   #63 
   Sperm are fast and clever swimmers who laughed at the barriers. Three times.  madeline_con   Jun-22-09 03:01 AM   #56 
   3 reasons.  Chan790   Jun-22-09 03:06 AM   #57 
   Other  rebecca_herman   Jun-22-09 04:25 AM   #58 
   Do not.  travelingtypist   Jun-22-09 04:32 AM   #59 
   Never really felt the urge to have them  theNotoriousP.I.G.   Jun-22-09 04:36 AM   #60 
   Never felt any desire to have them.  sarge43   Jun-22-09 05:48 AM   #61 
   I know what you mean. It does look like the toughest job on the planet.  Bonn1997   Jun-22-09 06:51 AM   #62 
      I never believed I had what it takes to do it.  sarge43   Jun-22-09 09:07 AM   #76 
   Didn't know all the facts!  elleng   Jun-22-09 07:42 AM   #64 
   Because I AM the baby of THIS family.......  a kennedy   Jun-22-09 07:46 AM   #65 
   Its IMPORTANT that you know you like it,  elleng   Jun-22-09 07:49 AM   #66 
   Chose not to have any very early in life.  old mark   Jun-22-09 07:52 AM   #67 
   having kids never really interested me. and the path my life has taken, it just never happened.  KG   Jun-22-09 08:10 AM   #70 
   No kids, no pets. NOT the care-taker type. Rather Peter-Pannish.  WinkyDink   Jun-22-09 08:11 AM   #71 
   It may be strange but I feel I don't need kids since I have my dogs.  Bonn1997   Jun-22-09 08:20 AM   #73 
      I love dogs, but you know the saying: "If you want your heart broken, get a dog."  WinkyDink   Jun-23-09 08:38 AM   #83 
   I always wanted children  AwakeAtLast   Jun-22-09 08:12 AM   #72 
   Yeah, there have been good answers. I feel like I don't want kids now but there's a part of me that  Bonn1997   Jun-22-09 08:28 AM   #74 
      yeah, I get emotional at Christmas time for kids, then I get over it  a kennedy   Jun-23-09 08:10 AM   #80 
      you ask a good question  handmade34   Jul-02-09 03:36 AM   #112 
   I have a stepson. That will be all.  HughBeaumont   Jun-22-09 08:36 AM   #75 
   I have always wanted kids.  raptor_rider   Jun-22-09 09:22 AM   #77 
   Never wanted to do to somebody else what was done to me. nt  raccoon   Jun-22-09 09:31 AM   #78 
   Because, as luck would have it, I ended up preggers at 19...  ScreamingMeemie   Jun-22-09 09:59 AM   #79 
   Waterskiing Accident  One_Life_To_Give   Jun-23-09 08:18 AM   #81 
   Oops  dropkickpa   Jun-23-09 08:37 AM   #82 
   I chose not to  mentalsolstice   Jun-23-09 12:22 PM   #85 
   Seven billion is already too many. nt  Deep13   Jun-23-09 12:34 PM   #86 
   Never had any - didn't want any  ChickMagic   Jun-23-09 12:48 PM   #87 
   My first is due Nov. 6th  snooper2   Jun-23-09 12:48 PM   #88 
   I had them for purely selfish reasons  mamaleah   Jun-23-09 12:52 PM   #89 
   My husband and I decided not to have any children before we got married..  Gonzo Gardener   Jun-23-09 02:38 PM   #90 
   Women think I'm creepy and repulsive.  oedura   Jun-23-09 02:45 PM   #91 
   That's no excuse. You just gotta find a woman who likes creepy, repulsive men!  Bonn1997   Jun-23-09 06:57 PM   #94 
   Children/babies are like little aliens to me.  TEXASYANKEE   Jun-23-09 03:31 PM   #92 
   I dig noise !  RagAss   Jun-23-09 06:57 PM   #93 
   there were no openings available to join jane goodall in the jungle watching  mopinko   Jun-23-09 07:04 PM   #95 
   Grew up in a dysfunctional family.  Dangerously Amused   Jun-23-09 07:21 PM   #96 
   So the cat doesn't eat my corpse.  Throd   Jun-23-09 07:47 PM   #97 
   I was raised by a father  hippywife   Jun-23-09 07:51 PM   #98 
   My wife and I disagreed on this...  Mike 03   Jun-23-09 07:55 PM   #99 
   Hmmm. Did you consider having one biological and one adoptive child? I don't mean to be too nosey!  Bonn1997   Jun-24-09 10:45 AM   #100 
   Never had the urge to reproduce  Sky Masterson   Jun-24-09 10:51 AM   #102 
   Ouzo.  crim son   Jun-24-09 10:51 AM   #103 
   A couple reasons  bikebloke   Jun-24-09 11:53 AM   #104 
   Never really wanted any.  Orsino   Jun-24-09 12:09 PM   #105 
   I have several reasons for not having children, due to both circumstances and my own choices  MikeH   Jul-01-09 10:08 PM   #106 
   Can't have children  Bryn   Jul-02-09 01:04 AM   #107 
   I didn't wear a condom.  Nevernose   Jul-02-09 01:13 AM   #108 
   Used a condom almost every time since 10th grade.  Iggo   Jul-02-09 01:58 AM   #109 
   1). Never had a truly worthwhile significant other, 2). people are trashing  Lorien   Jul-02-09 02:04 AM   #110 
   So are you saying my kids have no future?  Common Sense Party   Jul-02-09 03:14 AM   #111 
      The facts are the facts:  Lorien   Jul-02-09 09:01 PM   #122 
   infertile.  Dammit Ann   Jul-02-09 05:00 AM   #113 
   I don't cave in to societal pressures  Skittles   Jul-02-09 05:03 AM   #114 
   Me, either. That's why we had three kids.  Common Sense Party   Jul-02-09 12:23 PM   #116 
      yes because the pressure not to have them is sooooo great  Skittles   Jul-02-09 01:16 PM   #117 
         Around here it is.  Common Sense Party   Jul-02-09 01:28 PM   #119 
            Around where?  Lorien   Jul-02-09 09:02 PM   #123 
   I have negative parental fiber  kedrys   Jul-02-09 07:49 AM   #115 
   Because I got knocked up  skygazer   Jul-02-09 01:20 PM   #118 
   Couldn't have any naturally and thought we were fine with that for a while  maddezmomDU Moderator   Jul-02-09 01:34 PM   #120 
   i didn't have kids  datasuspect   Jul-02-09 01:36 PM   #121 
   Programmed in the 50's, maybe.  annabanana   Jul-02-09 09:12 PM   #124 
 

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