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37. As other posters have noted the show's popularity...
Edited on Fri May-08-09 02:15 PM by MilesColtrane
...hinged on the fictional universe it created, and how it resonated with viewers.

One aspect of that was the so called "Prime Directive".
The United Federation of Planets' (extrasolar UN equivalent) General Order #1 stated that:

As the right of each sentient species to live in accordance with its normal cultural evolution is considered sacred, no Starfleet personnel may interfere with the normal and healthy development of alien life and culture. Such interference includes introducing superior knowledge, strength, or technology to a world whose society is incapable of handling such advantages wisely.

Starfleet personnel may not violate this Prime Directive, even to save their lives and/or their ship, unless they are acting to right an earlier violation or an accidental contamination of said culture. This directive takes precedence over any and all other considerations, and carries with it the highest moral obligation.


The show originally aired when the United States began "Americanizing" the Vietnam War. The highest U.S. casualties occurred during it's run. (at least 45,000 dead)
The results of a particular political and military interference in a "less advanced" culture was being shown every night on the news during those years, and people were just beginning to see its disastrous effects.

After Star Trek's cancellation and as the killing in Southeast Asia continued, the Prime Directive began to seem like a damned smart way to conduct U.S. foreign policy.
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  -Why is Star Trek so popular? ccharles000  May-08-09 05:33 AM   #0 
  - it was a great sci-fi show that was all about civil rights  Syrinx   May-08-09 05:57 AM   #1 
  - Corny? No.  blogslut   May-08-09 06:15 AM   #2 
  - First interracial kiss on prime time.  intheflow   May-08-09 06:45 AM   #4 
     - Gene Roddenberry made good use of the Rod Serling Rule...  Frank Cannon   May-08-09 07:04 AM   #7 
        - Exactly.  redqueen   May-08-09 09:41 AM   #21 
        - "He's black on the left side." n/t  sarge43   May-08-09 12:32 PM   #29 
        - Please notice the key differnces between the black on lefties and the white on the lefties  Bucky   May-08-09 03:39 PM   #45 
           - I believe the choice of tight clothing  RandomThoughts   May-08-09 11:26 PM   #68 
              - Or it was a third season episode and no budget for sets and costumes. n/t  sarge43   May-09-09 05:52 AM   #74 
                 - possible.  RandomThoughts   May-10-09 02:00 AM   #76 
  - Hope.  Orsino   May-08-09 06:45 AM   #3 
  - Yes, hope. My 11 yo was watching all kind of Treks yesterday and  GreenPartyVoter   May-08-09 11:44 AM   #24 
  - Because nerds and engineers are the heroes, and they get to have sex with hot aliens.  mikeytherat   May-08-09 06:56 AM   #5 
  - Wow. You just made me decide to rid myself of my affinity for nerds.  redqueen   May-08-09 09:30 AM   #17 
     - awww  DS1   May-08-09 02:21 PM   #39 
        - Heh...  redqueen   May-08-09 02:53 PM   #43 
  - The show is understandable - but the cult that surrounds it, not so much  OmahaBlueDog   May-08-09 07:04 AM   #6 
  - So people should what -not spend money/time on things they enjoy?  TZ   May-08-09 07:20 AM   #9 
  - I think people who don't get Star Trek are missing out on a ton of interesting...  Pacifist Patriot   May-08-09 07:25 AM   #12 
  - Most fans of the show that I've met are self-described geeks  OmahaBlueDog   May-08-09 01:41 PM   #35 
  - By all means, let us know how you enjoyed it.  Sequoia   May-08-09 05:40 PM   #56 
     - Loved it!  Pacifist Patriot   May-08-09 06:42 PM   #59 
  - You are not the least bit sorry and I am not the least bit offended  OmahaBlueDog   May-08-09 01:37 PM   #34 
  - Given the hopeful view of mankind's future, I don't think the large following is...  Pacifist Patriot   May-08-09 07:22 AM   #11 
  - We all have our personal obsessions  OmahaBlueDog   May-08-09 01:56 PM   #36 
     - Hey, for what it's worth...  Pacifist Patriot   May-08-09 02:47 PM   #41 
  - sure you can golf, boat, fish, hunt, or play baseball  WolverineDG   May-08-09 04:31 PM   #49 
     - Upon what do Klingons fritter away their time and money?  OmahaBlueDog   May-08-09 04:41 PM   #52 
  - Gene Roddenberry was a visionary and way ahead of his time.  Pacifist Patriot   May-08-09 07:15 AM   #8 
  - I forgot which African-American celeb said it  NewJeffCT   May-08-09 08:36 AM   #16 
  - That African-American celeb who said it was Martin Luther King, Jr.  NYCGirl   May-08-09 10:01 AM   #23 
  - Ooops  NewJeffCT   May-08-09 12:29 PM   #28 
  - No, it was Whoopi Goldberg who talked about Uhura as inspiration  Rabrrrrrr   May-08-09 06:49 PM   #60 
  - Whoopi Goldberg  WolverineDG   May-08-09 04:35 PM   #51 
  - You put this out:  Sequoia   May-08-09 05:45 PM   #57 
     - Well he did set this in the 24th century. That give us another 300 years...  Pacifist Patriot   May-08-09 08:21 PM   #61 
  - The ideas, the writing and most of all, the great characters. NT  NYCGirl   May-08-09 07:22 AM   #10 
  - Because geeks want to believe they have the upperhand in the future (nt)  Symarip   May-08-09 08:03 AM   #13 
  - Hey, we do now.  NYCGirl   May-08-09 08:10 AM   #14 
  - :eyes:  TZ   May-08-09 08:14 AM   #15 
  - I like it for the high cheese factor.  Lex   May-08-09 09:37 AM   #18 
  - Same reason football is. Or reality tv, or anything else.  flvegan   May-08-09 09:40 AM   #19 
  - I was never a Trekkie.  bikebloke   May-08-09 09:41 AM   #20 
  - Because in the 60s presenting a future where humanity survived and thrived was a big deal.  LeftyMom   May-08-09 09:49 AM   #22 
  - It still is.  Deja Q   May-08-09 11:51 AM   #26 
  - Which episode?  Deja Q   May-08-09 11:51 AM   #25 
  - What episode did you watch? Some of them were bowzers.  sarge43   May-08-09 12:25 PM   #27 
  - Also:  NYCGirl   May-08-09 12:40 PM   #31 
  - Balance of Terror was a real kidney punch to the Cold War mentality.  sarge43   May-08-09 12:57 PM   #32 
  - My personal favorite  pokerfan   May-08-09 02:20 PM   #38 
  - You did have bring up that one, didn't you.  sarge43   May-08-09 02:51 PM   #42 
  - Spock's Brain was just stupid  pokerfan   May-08-09 03:34 PM   #44 
  - Hot 40 year olds playing hot 20 year olds - that rocks!  Deja Q   May-08-09 03:41 PM   #47 
  - You are clearly not Herbert.  MilesColtrane   May-08-09 11:22 PM   #67 
  - "Hey, Hey, Brother..."  Iggo   May-10-09 01:48 PM   #78 
  - Or these:  Deja Q   May-08-09 03:39 PM   #46 
  - Because it's a good show?  ElboRuum   May-08-09 12:34 PM   #30 
  - The spinoffs aren't corny (for the most part)  WildEyedLiberal   May-08-09 01:14 PM   #33 
  - As other posters have noted the show's popularity...  MilesColtrane   May-08-09 02:09 PM   #37 
  - It explores cultural and social and political theories in a setting removed from our prejudices.  jobycom   May-08-09 02:34 PM   #40 
  - delete -- wrong spot.  Iggo   May-10-09 01:56 PM   #79 
  - 'cause even in combat situations...  LanternWaste   May-08-09 03:47 PM   #48 
  - I don't know. I like the original series and that's pretty much it.  Left Is Write   May-08-09 04:33 PM   #50 
  - Took the family at 10AM this morning. I had low expectations because...  Pacifist Patriot   May-08-09 08:37 PM   #63 
     - The Olay/Cover Girl combo?  Left Is Write   May-08-09 08:44 PM   #64 
        - Yep, that's the stuff.  Pacifist Patriot   May-08-09 09:23 PM   #66 
  - Locking  Tyrone Slothrop   May-08-09 05:12 PM   #53 
  - It promises a world where mankind works hand in hand to make a better world  Taverner   May-08-09 05:13 PM   #54 
  - You probably saw one of the corny episodes  Sequoia   May-08-09 05:37 PM   #55 
  - I agree with much of what has been written and would add: It was well written.  Mike 03   May-08-09 05:54 PM   #58 
  - It IS corny!!! Don't fight it, damn you!!! just go along with it!!!!  TK421   May-08-09 08:24 PM   #62 
  - There is also a non-TV universe to go along with it  krispos42   May-08-09 09:09 PM   #65 
  - Because it pushes the boundaries of imagination. The whole sci-fi genre is cool, but Trek presented  Skip Intro   May-08-09 11:32 PM   #69 
  - Well said!  AllenVanAllen   May-08-09 11:52 PM   #71 
  - Two words:  Dappleganger   May-08-09 11:42 PM   #70 
  - It gave birth to that "enduring "character...  Mendocino   May-09-09 01:11 AM   #72 
  - Oh you young one!  Liberal_in_LA   May-09-09 01:20 AM   #73 
  - It's an Allegory.  rucky   May-09-09 08:12 AM   #75 
  - Just tonight I learned that this Star Trek movie is about the 1960s TV show.  Quantess   May-10-09 02:19 AM   #77 
  - ccharles000 -- see Reply #40.  Iggo   May-10-09 01:57 PM   #80 
  - Because it shows respect for science and education  wickerwoman   May-10-09 02:19 PM   #81 
 

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