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Reply #18: Definitely Jupiter, the Bringer of Jollity [View All]

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18. Definitely Jupiter, the Bringer of Jollity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A-LNkuqq6g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz0b4STz1lo

The first link above has a little bit of information; however I like the performance in the second link better.

Jupiter is definitely the highlight of the suite for me.

I like the peacefulness of Venus, the Bringer of Peace. I particularly like it as a relief after the heavy Mars, the Bringer of War.

I think my second favorite planet is Mercury, the Winged Messenger. I like having this particular movement, with its light and flighty nature, right before Jupiter, which I consider to be the highlight of the suite.

I particularly love the lilting melody in the middle of the Jupiter movement; I consider it to be the highlight of the movement and the highlight of the whole suite. I am almost sad when the melody is over in the movement.

After Jupiter I personally consider what follows in the suite to be anticlimactic. I particularly do not really enjoy the gloomy Saturn, the Bringer of Old Age, right after Jupiter.

Back in 1979, before the advent of CD's, I had a vinyl 12" disk of Holst's The Planets which was played at 45 RPM. The disk had Mars, Venus, Mercury, and Jupiter. Given how I feel about the rest of the suite, that seemed complete to me. It was something of a novelty seeing a 12" record which was played at 45 RPM. I remember the stereo turntable record changer I had at the time assumed that a record played at 45 RPM was 7", so after the record changer had let the record through, I had to turn it off and turn it on again and manually move the needle to the start of the record.

I remember that I was just a little bit disappointed when I learned that Holst's suite was about the astrological signs rather than the astronomical bodies. However I do have to note in particular that the peaceful Venus depicted in Holst's suite is totally different than the actual planet which is very hot (900 degrees F) and with a thick and toxic atmosphere, and clouds probably containing sulfuric acid.

Holst wrote his suite before Pluto was discovered, so his suite does not contain Pluto, which I see has been added by somebody else, which is nice. It has since been determined by the International Astronomical Union that Pluto is not really a planet, so Holst's suite as it was originally written is complete in itself.

I personally don't quite understand the emotional attachment that some people have to Pluto being a planet. For instance who, other than professional astronomers, have actually seen Pluto. I think Pluto is at least 1000 times dimmer than can be seen with the naked eye, and I don't think it can be seen through any telescopes that amateur observers of the sky would have.

I think Uranus and Neptune can be seen through small telescopes or binoculars (if one knows where to look), though I have never seen either of them myself.
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  Which is your favorite "Planet" from Gustav Holst? nytemare  Apr-01-09 09:54 PM   #0 
   It's a toss up between Venus and Jupiter. I just heard an all organ version...  Captain Hilts   Apr-01-09 10:00 PM   #1 
   I love Tomita's Planets.  nytemare   Apr-01-09 10:15 PM   #3 
      I love Tomita's, too.  hippywife   Apr-04-09 07:56 PM   #20 
   I like Jupiter a lot, but let's face it, Mars is the highlight of the entire thing.  Bicoastal   Apr-01-09 10:14 PM   #2 
   But Jupiter is perky and got a real popularity boost in The Right Stuff.  Captain Hilts   Apr-01-09 10:24 PM   #5 
      That's the first thing that came to my mind.....  Tommy_Carcetti   Apr-02-09 12:36 PM   #16 
   His other compositions.  bif   Apr-01-09 10:23 PM   #4 
   I love 1st Suite.  nytemare   Apr-01-09 10:29 PM   #6 
   Mars. Been my favorite since I was a toddler. It's brilliant.  mainegreen   Apr-01-09 10:31 PM   #7 
   I'd like to name a red cat 'Mars'. nt  Captain Hilts   Apr-02-09 08:14 AM   #14 
   Mine too. I love the cheezy-assed live versions King Crimson did  no name no slogan   Apr-02-09 12:50 PM   #17 
   Neptune is the farthest out in all senses.  Lionel Mandrake   Apr-01-09 10:38 PM   #8 
   I love the chorus.  nytemare   Apr-01-09 10:40 PM   #9 
   Did you watch the Voyager 2 flyby of Neptune?  Lionel Mandrake   Apr-02-09 01:31 AM   #10 
   Pluto. n/t  crimsonblue   Apr-02-09 02:20 AM   #11 
   STILL a planet to me. nt  Captain Hilts   Apr-02-09 08:13 AM   #13 
   Thanks SO MUCH for this 'exercise.'  elleng   Apr-02-09 02:48 AM   #12 
   Mars.  momto3   Apr-02-09 09:11 AM   #15 
   Mars is the most frightening music I have ever heard  GCP   Apr-04-09 08:10 PM   #23 
   Definitely Jupiter, the Bringer of Jollity  MikeH   Apr-04-09 07:33 PM   #18 
   I agree about Venus  nytemare   Apr-04-09 08:00 PM   #21 
   MIne, too.  Catshrink   Apr-04-09 08:46 PM   #24 
   Mars  SoxFan   Apr-04-09 07:43 PM   #19 
   After studying the subject, I'll say  elleng   Apr-04-09 08:04 PM   #22 
   Has to be Jupiter.....plus it's the most fun to play, rocking hard on the French Horn, hells yeah  NightWatcher   Apr-04-09 08:49 PM   #25 
   Saturn, no contest. Mars is cool, too.  Danger MouseDU Moderator   Apr-04-09 08:49 PM   #26 
 

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