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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-08 05:53 PM
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23. This has never made a lot of sense to me
I mean, I think I understand the sentiment behind what you're saying but it's logically flawed. First of all, what is the criteria for being "able to support them?" How much is enough? Second, it doesn't take into account all the things that usually contribute to people NOT being able to take care of their kids. Like divorce. Or the death of a spouse. Or catastrophic medical conditions that deplete savings.

But besides that, its the same sort of attitude the drill, baby drill crowd has about non-renewable resources. "I should be able to drive a Hummer because I can afford the gas." It doesn't take into account how one person's actions affect everyone else. Overuse of resources means less resources for everyone - whether its gas or all the resources extra people use.

I don't believe in setting limits on how many children people can have - or on what kind of car they drive, for that matter. I do believe in educating people about the consequences of their choices and offering incentives for making better choices.
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  -An Apology dawgmom  Nov-07-08 05:16 PM   #0 
  - Well, considering dogs have litters of like eight, that WAS a bit hypocritical  HEyHEY   Nov-07-08 05:33 PM   #1 
  - hahahahahaha! n/t  dawgmom   Nov-07-08 05:34 PM   #2 
  - Bahaha, well played.  primate1   Nov-07-08 05:34 PM   #3 
  - So, basically you are saying that one person was rational, and everyone else was not?  PelosiFan   Nov-07-08 05:39 PM   #4 
  - Please. She apologized...  philboy   Nov-07-08 05:41 PM   #5 
  - No, she said that only one person who responded to her was rational.  PelosiFan   Nov-07-08 05:42 PM   #9 
     - That's not at all what she said.  philboy   Nov-07-08 05:43 PM   #10 
        - She said "I thank the one respondent who pointed that out in a rational manner."  PelosiFan   Nov-07-08 05:47 PM   #14 
           - Forget it...  philboy   Nov-07-08 05:50 PM   #19 
              - It's hard to interpret it any other way, when her responses in that thread were so insulting.  PelosiFan   Nov-07-08 05:52 PM   #21 
                 - It takes a strong person to type an apology, and I don't see it as snark. n/t  philboy   Nov-07-08 05:53 PM   #22 
                 - Well, I do. n/t  PelosiFan   Nov-07-08 05:54 PM   #25 
                 - It's pretty clearly snark and her original comment was hideous.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 05:56 PM   #29 
                 - And I still think the content for which he/she is unapologetic about is unadulterated BULLSHIT.  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-08 05:54 PM   #26 
  - Nah.  crim son   Nov-07-08 05:42 PM   #8 
  - I think she's being quite passive aggressive in this "apology"  PelosiFan   Nov-07-08 05:44 PM   #11 
     - I'm not sure she's apologizing for her point of view,  crim son   Nov-07-08 05:45 PM   #13 
        - Here you go...  PelosiFan   Nov-07-08 05:48 PM   #16 
  - I'm putting this apology in the same category as McLoser's concession speech.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-07-08 05:55 PM   #27 
  - My third child was an accident  crim son   Nov-07-08 05:41 PM   #6 
  - I think people can have as many offspring as they damn well please as long as..  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 05:42 PM   #7 
  - See, I want them to do more than support them.  crim son   Nov-07-08 05:44 PM   #12 
  - That's a great idealistic attitude, but raising them "right" is relative, isn't it?  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-08 05:47 PM   #15 
  - Yes, given the fact that "right" is relative, it would be impossible  crim son   Nov-07-08 06:22 PM   #48 
  - Your idea of raised well is different from what other people think of as 'raised well.'  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 05:50 PM   #18 
     - I always appreciate it when somebody points out the obvious.  crim son   Nov-07-08 06:23 PM   #49 
        - You're welcome.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 08:06 PM   #60 
           - Sorry, Elrond.  crim son   Nov-07-08 08:23 PM   #64 
              - I wasn't assuming that you weren't.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 08:25 PM   #65 
  - This has never made a lot of sense to me  skygazer   Nov-07-08 05:53 PM   #23 
     - I agree that we should educate people.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 05:55 PM   #28 
        - Your avatar always makes me hungry  skygazer   Nov-07-08 05:58 PM   #31 
        - I just started using it last night...somebody suggested it to me when I said i liked 'cute.'  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 05:59 PM   #33 
        - Ability to breed???  Engi   Nov-07-08 08:26 PM   #66 
  - That whole attitude is no better than the Anti-Choice movement.  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-08 05:49 PM   #17 
  - very mooooving post, and udderly needed at this time  Parche   Nov-07-08 05:51 PM   #20 
  - Gotta tell you, the only reason I didn't rip you a new one was that I  Midlodemocrat   Nov-07-08 05:54 PM   #24 
  - I'm with you.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 05:57 PM   #30 
     - Thank you, sir.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-07-08 06:14 PM   #47 
  - DU: A website where a person can offer an apology, and then still get totally...  philboy   Nov-07-08 05:58 PM   #32 
  - DU: A website where a person can be a total dick and still have somebody defend them for it.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 06:00 PM   #34 
  - ZING!  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-08 06:01 PM   #36 
  - Being a dick is not accepting an apology because it is not worded...  philboy   Nov-07-08 06:01 PM   #37 
     - A cop-out apology is worse than no apology at all.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 06:03 PM   #41 
        - Done. n/t  philboy   Nov-07-08 06:05 PM   #42 
  - When is an apology not an apology?  Midlodemocrat   Nov-07-08 06:00 PM   #35 
  - It's like saying "I'm sorry if I offended you." It's a shitty cop-out apology.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 06:02 PM   #38 
  - I understand, but...  philboy   Nov-07-08 06:03 PM   #40 
     - Some things are better left unsaid. I get the right to decide how many  Midlodemocrat   Nov-07-08 06:08 PM   #46 
  - No, just stop trying to dictate what I do with MY body.  PeaceNikki   Nov-07-08 06:02 PM   #39 
  - Just because someone offers an apology doesn't mean anyone has to accept it  skygazer   Nov-07-08 06:06 PM   #43 
  - Exactly.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 06:07 PM   #44 
  - I'm done with this one. n/t  philboy   Nov-07-08 06:08 PM   #45 
  - Just amazing...  Engi   Nov-07-08 06:30 PM   #52 
     - Like I said. When is an apology not an apology.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-07-08 06:35 PM   #53 
     - Of course choice is choice...  Engi   Nov-07-08 07:26 PM   #58 
     - She got jumped all over for calling people with more than two children 'cows'.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 08:07 PM   #61 
     - She apologized for that.  philboy   Nov-07-08 08:14 PM   #62 
     - I didn't defend her name calling!!  Engi   Nov-07-08 08:17 PM   #63 
        - Her post amounted to 'Sorry if I offended you.'  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 08:27 PM   #68 
           - LOL!  Engi   Nov-07-08 08:32 PM   #69 
              - That's because liking Nicelback makes you evil, or worse, it makes you Republican.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 08:34 PM   #70 
                 - Well, misspelling Nickleback  Engi   Nov-07-08 08:42 PM   #71 
                    - I did it on purpose to show my contempt for them.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-07-08 08:45 PM   #73 
     - How'd I know you'd be here  Saint Etienne17   Nov-07-08 08:58 PM   #75 
  - my wife the brood mare does not accept. nt.  IndianaJones   Nov-07-08 06:25 PM   #50 
  - I raised 3 kids  mokawanis   Nov-07-08 06:29 PM   #51 
  - Well, if anyone has two "extra" kids, they can use my allotted share  unpossibles   Nov-07-08 06:48 PM   #54 
  - I just had a 3rd ovary installed, can't wait to break it in.  chimpsrsmarter   Nov-07-08 06:48 PM   #55 
  - I will respond as soon as I have killed three of my children.  rug   Nov-07-08 06:51 PM   #56 
  - .  Midlodemocrat   Nov-07-08 07:13 PM   #57 
  - I accept your apology.  Ptah   Nov-07-08 07:44 PM   #59 
  - I think you are only sorry that you got taken to task  Marrah_G   Nov-07-08 08:26 PM   #67 
  - MOOO...  gemdem   Nov-07-08 08:43 PM   #72 
  - There is little excuse to use that type of language with fellow women,  SarahBelle   Nov-07-08 08:58 PM   #74 
  - Her words may have been uncouth  Engi   Nov-07-08 09:12 PM   #76 
  - Goddammit  ZombyWoof   Nov-07-08 09:31 PM   #77 
  - Every few years or so, I get uppity.  SarahBelle   Nov-07-08 09:37 PM   #78 
     - True story  ZombyWoof   Nov-07-08 09:44 PM   #80 
  - Enjoy the remainder of your stay at DU.  BlueIris   Nov-07-08 09:40 PM   #79 
  - What???  Engi   Nov-07-08 09:45 PM   #81 
  - Locking at the OP's request.  greatauntoftriplets   Nov-07-08 10:21 PM   #82 

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