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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:12 PM
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36. I disagree with the basis of the question...
it's based on an assumption that all certain knowledge can be quantified and assigned value. That means somebody has to be the impartial and objective arbiter of the value of knowledge. (A premise I can objectively reject even based on the limited knowledge of being aware of what I do not know. Omniscience is necessary to assign value to knowledge.) Otherwise we have to assume that all knowledge equal in value and scope. In that case who am I to say the quantity (because quality is unknowable) of my knowledge is greater than that of others?

An example...I have an IQ (tested) of 174. I'm certain that my coworker Kay would score less highly...but is that a reflection of intelligence or of the questions skewing in my favor? I might read more books and write publishable poetry and have a college degree and be a champion debater but she's a trained diesel mechanic and paramedic; it seems to me that my ability to put words together is by-and-large a lot less useful...even if many people put a higher value upon it. The valuation of knowledge is foolish...literally the undertaking of fools. That leaves only one metric: Do I know more than she does, sum in toto? That's an immodest and unprovable claim.

I voted that I'm of average intelligence knowing that the vast majority of people would concede that I'm more intelligent than they are. Not because they're wrong but because they're not objective and thus can't be right.

All philosophy after Socrates is bullshit, all intellectualism is classism and sophistry. Debating one's intelligence is the ultimate in narcissistic navel-gazing.
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  - I am a fucking genuis  UndertheOcean   Oct-29-08 11:31 AM   #1 
  - I KNOW I am more intelligent  hobbit709   Oct-29-08 11:32 AM   #2 
  - most people are retarded compared to me  datasuspect   Oct-29-08 11:32 AM   #3 
  - I don't just think it, I know it, and have the tests to prove it.  Rabrrrrrr   Oct-29-08 11:33 AM   #4 
  - Nicely put, Rabrrrrrr.  LynzM   Oct-29-08 12:30 PM   #9 
  - yeah, me too.  kick-ass-bob   Oct-29-08 02:53 PM   #28 
  - Back in school...  Chemical Bill   Oct-29-08 08:36 PM   #43 
  - Why you gotta diss Cosmo?  Peake   Oct-29-08 10:26 PM   #47 
  - I'm as smart as I need to be,  SOteric   Oct-29-08 11:35 AM   #5 
  - They call me "Mister Know-it-all" here at work  kentauros   Oct-29-08 11:35 AM   #6 
  - Half of the US voted for Bush 2 times.  edbermac   Oct-29-08 12:28 PM   #7 
  - ..  lionesspriyanka   Oct-29-08 12:30 PM   #8 
  - Ding.  Peake   Oct-29-08 12:33 PM   #10 
  - It sure feels like it....  SacredCow   Oct-29-08 12:41 PM   #11 
  - It depends who the average person is.  A-Schwarzenegger   Oct-29-08 12:44 PM   #12 
  - It sure seems like it.  Deep13   Oct-29-08 12:48 PM   #13 
  - Yep. Summa cum laude, Phi Beta Kappa  FKA MNChimpH8R   Oct-29-08 01:03 PM   #14 
  - I'm a diagnosed Aspie too.  Rue   Oct-29-08 07:31 PM   #34 
     - "The smartest guy in the room"  KamaAina   Oct-30-08 08:48 PM   #57 
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  - I don't understand the question  Orrex   Oct-29-08 01:03 PM   #16 
  - You should probably pick the third option then  The Inquisitive   Oct-29-08 01:24 PM   #19 
     - What do you mean?  Orrex   Oct-29-08 04:57 PM   #32 
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  - I'm freeper dumb.  GoPsUx   Oct-29-08 01:06 PM   #18 
  - Duh...they're W&W's, moran.  Forkboy   Oct-29-08 01:35 PM   #21 
     - Dubya's?  GoPsUx   Oct-29-08 02:38 PM   #25 
        - They won't be his for long.  Forkboy   Oct-29-08 02:54 PM   #29 
           - I can already see the O's pryed off of the whitehouse keyboards.  GoPsUx   Oct-30-08 05:36 AM   #52 
  - lioness, again no "other"  Dogtown   Oct-29-08 01:31 PM   #20 
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     - Touche  martymar64   Oct-31-08 04:36 PM   #66 
  - Ofcourse not.  Texasgal   Oct-29-08 07:35 PM   #35 
  - I disagree with the basis of the question...  Chan790   Oct-29-08 08:12 PM   #36 
  - Nope  KC2   Oct-29-08 08:16 PM   #37 
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  - I wouldn't assume to be  MrScorpio   Oct-29-08 09:54 PM   #45 
  - I'm a fucking genius compared to most in Alberta  u4ic   Oct-29-08 10:24 PM   #46 
  - You are a genius compared to most americans too.  GoPsUx   Oct-30-08 05:30 AM   #51 
     - You live a sheltered life  u4ic   Oct-30-08 08:42 PM   #56 
        - And?  GoPsUx   Oct-31-08 04:56 AM   #59 
  - According to the Stanford-Binet  FloridaJudy   Oct-29-08 10:38 PM   #48 
  - I know I am more intelligent than the average person.  Tilion   Oct-30-08 03:21 AM   #49 
  - Yes  tjwmason   Oct-30-08 05:25 AM   #50 
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  - I is vary brite!  Arger68   Oct-31-08 02:34 PM   #63 
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