IntravenousDemilo
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Wed Jul-23-08 02:35 AM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 46. When you say most manners are superficial, I take it that you mean what I'd mean by etiquette. |
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For me, a person with good manners is someone who properly appreciates the social aspect of a given situation and goes out of his way not to make someone feel uncomfortable, while etiquette is for those more concerned with protocol, tradition, and adherence to rigid hierarchical structures. There is some overlap, perhaps, in such things as Thank You cards, but even then, etiquette concerns itself more with superficialities: the style of the card itself, what is an acceptable lapse in time before sending, and the idea of fulfilling a social obligation on the grounds that "it's what's done." Manners go much deeper, and they're all about whether you have the impulse within you to send Thank You cards in the first place -- because you're thankful and you appreciate the other person.
If you use the wrong fork at a fancy banquet, you may have committed a breach of etiquette, but if you point out to someone that he's used the wrong fork and make him feel awkward, you have shown extremely bad manners.
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| -Why are people still so superficial? |
redqueen |
Jul-22-08 10:23 AM |
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In my opinion... |
MrsGrumpy |
Jul-22-08 10:25 AM |
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Ugly Betty? |
redqueen |
Jul-22-08 10:32 AM |
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I cannot stand any of those shows. |
MrsGrumpy |
Jul-22-08 10:33 AM |
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Me neither... |
redqueen |
Jul-22-08 10:43 AM |
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"Ugly Betty" is a satire of the whole fashion ethos |
bob_weaver |
Jul-22-08 02:00 PM |
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Plain-dressed? |
redqueen |
Jul-22-08 02:04 PM |
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No, not polo or button-down shirts with khakis |
bob_weaver |
Jul-23-08 01:32 AM |
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Because it makes people feel better about themselves |
BarenakedLady |
Jul-22-08 10:26 AM |
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nailed it. |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jul-22-08 10:27 AM |
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capitalism... |
Ysabel |
Jul-22-08 04:35 PM |
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it's because they are rigid automatons who don't even know who they are |
datasuspect |
Jul-22-08 10:26 AM |
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Harsh... |
redqueen |
Jul-22-08 01:25 PM |
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these are two seperate things. people are superficial because we have eyes |
lionesspriyanka |
Jul-22-08 10:31 AM |
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Good point re: manners. |
redqueen |
Jul-22-08 10:34 AM |
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i dont expect others to dress up because it suits me, but i get why some |
lionesspriyanka |
Jul-22-08 10:37 AM |
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my grandfather was a polite asshole |
unpossibles |
Jul-22-08 02:27 PM |
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When you say most manners are superficial, I take it that you mean what I'd mean by etiquette. |
IntravenousDemilo |
Jul-23-08 02:35 AM |
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Naked Is Better |
Parche |
Jul-22-08 10:32 AM |
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I agree |
GoPsUx |
Jul-22-08 10:55 AM |
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Hi babe! |
BarenakedLady |
Jul-22-08 10:56 AM |
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Hey you |
GoPsUx |
Jul-22-08 10:57 AM |
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You must be rude... or lazy. |
redqueen |
Jul-22-08 11:02 AM |
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I am a bit of both. |
GoPsUx |
Jul-22-08 11:08 AM |
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Yeah, What GoPSUx Said!! |
Parche |
Jul-22-08 01:28 PM |
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Why would you necessarily want to misuse to, too, two or there, their, they're? |
IntravenousDemilo |
Jul-23-08 03:02 AM |
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Nothing to do with wanting to |
GoPsUx |
Jul-23-08 03:51 AM |
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Sorry, I wasn't paying attention to what you just said... I am mesmerized by your pretty bug... |
IntravenousDemilo |
Jul-23-08 04:04 AM |
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Isn't it pretty |
GoPsUx |
Jul-23-08 04:25 AM |
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That was also my impression of an average superficial person, as a nod to the OP's question. |
IntravenousDemilo |
Jul-23-08 04:48 AM |
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.. |
GoPsUx |
Jul-23-08 04:53 AM |
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Manners don't cost anything.... |
skooooo |
Jul-22-08 01:39 PM |
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Yeah... a thread asking why people were so rude nowadays... |
redqueen |
Jul-22-08 01:47 PM |
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It's sad that kids aren't taught manners... |
skooooo |
Jul-22-08 01:52 PM |
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The most well-mannered people (especially children) |
oktoberain |
Jul-22-08 01:53 PM |
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Manners...being polite and considerate... |
skooooo |
Jul-22-08 01:56 PM |
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The manners issue was the only thing I could get a handle on... |
redqueen |
Jul-22-08 02:03 PM |
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When did the anti-superficiality movement begin? |
Boojatta |
Jul-22-08 02:09 PM |
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I don't know. |
redqueen |
Jul-22-08 02:12 PM |
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Well, if it's starting now ... |
Boojatta |
Jul-22-08 02:15 PM |
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Pbthtthbhtbht. |
redqueen |
Jul-22-08 02:18 PM |
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It's not superficiality, it's a sign the soul is dying. |
jobycom |
Jul-22-08 02:09 PM |
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You can express yourself in khakis and a polo shirt. |
redqueen |
Jul-22-08 02:13 PM |
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Not talking about how a person dresses, just how they judge others. |
jobycom |
Jul-22-08 02:28 PM |
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I did, once. I was an INDIVIDUAL. |
ForrestGump |
Jul-22-08 11:06 PM |
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No...the next step is... |
Chan790 |
Jul-22-08 02:28 PM |
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True enough. |
jobycom |
Jul-22-08 02:29 PM |
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I don't think manners and clothing go hand in hand |
1gobluedem |
Jul-22-08 02:11 PM |
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Ah no... I should have put it in the OP... |
redqueen |
Jul-22-08 02:17 PM |
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I agree, I enjoy dressing up but also have disdain for the "requirement" to look a certain way |
unpossibles |
Jul-22-08 02:20 PM |
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I think it IS classism. |
DarkTirade |
Jul-22-08 02:32 PM |
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PM me a picture of your butt and I'll tell you. |
RadiationTherapy |
Jul-22-08 02:32 PM |
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You'll say that while you're wearing THOSE shoes? Where do you shop, Goodwill? |
Redstone |
Jul-22-08 02:35 PM |
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because they are people |
quakerboy |
Jul-23-08 03:19 AM |
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Scott Kleeb declares them so |
ikhor |
Jul-23-08 03:56 AM |
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