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1gobluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:52 PM
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13. I talk about it all the time, especially as it pertains to the domestic auto industry
What Reagan did to this country is criminal. The trade imbalance is criminal; allowing Asian imports to flood our markets while theirs are closed to US imports.

Asian cars manufactured in the US are manufactured in right-to-work states with non-union labor, imported parts, and the companies actively work against any attempts to unionize. Their benefits are not good, especially when it comes to on the job injuries. I have a friend who works at the UAW HQ in Detroit; she travels to the south periodically for organizing meetings in those states and the management tries to run them out of town.

Michigan had a thriving working middle class of union autoworkers who bought houses and cars, cottages up north, and sent their kids to college. It's practically all gone now thanks to Reagan and his Michigan counterpart, the despicable John Engler.
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  -Ancient history? Jobs that used to support single income families DaveTheWave  Feb-07-08 01:39 PM   #0 
  - I don't have similar stories, but my husband does...  Flaxbee   Feb-07-08 02:11 PM   #1 
  - The prior generation in my family all worked at paper mills.  Redstone   Feb-07-08 02:12 PM   #2 
  - As little as 15 years ago  DaveTheWave   Feb-07-08 02:19 PM   #3 
     - And those are the paper mills that took the jobs away from the ones in New England.  Redstone   Feb-07-08 02:24 PM   #6 
     - I look for paper made in the US  marzipanni   Feb-08-08 05:23 PM   #65 
  - Both Grandfathers were steel workers and the one that lived past 65  new_beawr   Feb-07-08 02:22 PM   #4 
  - Awww...  DaveTheWave   Feb-07-08 02:40 PM   #10 
  - What happened was Reagan  LisaM   Feb-07-08 02:22 PM   #5 
  - Yes, Saint Ron (according to most Repubs and many Dems as well) did more to destroy the fabric  Redstone   Feb-07-08 02:26 PM   #7 
  - Thom Hartmann talks about it all the time  LisaM   Feb-07-08 02:36 PM   #9 
  - I talk about it all the time, especially as it pertains to the domestic auto industry  1gobluedem   Feb-07-08 02:52 PM   #13 
  - It's awful. There was still a little bit of that when I was growing up there.  Pithlet   Feb-07-08 04:02 PM   #25 
  - I dont know where to start on your post  poisonivy   Feb-08-08 07:40 AM   #39 
     - European markets are not closed to US imports  1gobluedem   Feb-08-08 09:55 AM   #41 
        - My wife has  poisonivy   Feb-08-08 01:36 PM   #57 
           - Be that as it may  1gobluedem   Feb-08-08 01:53 PM   #58 
              - The reason there were layoffs  poisonivy   Feb-08-08 02:47 PM   #62 
  - Clarification: I was saying that many repubs and some Dems think of him as Saint Ron. I don't.  Redstone   Feb-07-08 04:04 PM   #26 
  - I talk about it all the time.  xmas74   Feb-07-08 09:18 PM   #37 
  - That seems very plausible  DaveTheWave   Feb-07-08 02:26 PM   #8 
  - I've heard employers lamenting how hard it is to get good, loyal employees  XemaSab   Feb-07-08 02:41 PM   #11 
  - exactly.  Iris   Feb-09-08 09:53 AM   #74 
  - My dad worked 20 years in the auto industry  AllegroRondo   Feb-07-08 02:45 PM   #12 
  - Did he work at AMC by any chance?  xmas74   Feb-07-08 09:19 PM   #38 
     - Yes! at the Kenosha plant.  AllegroRondo   Feb-08-08 11:10 AM   #50 
        - I figured he did  xmas74   Feb-08-08 03:17 PM   #63 
  - I worked 30 years as a painter, and I did fine...  adsosletter   Feb-07-08 02:58 PM   #14 
  - only in the US  harmonicon   Feb-07-08 03:01 PM   #15 
  - I've heard great things about New Zealand  DaveTheWave   Feb-07-08 03:33 PM   #20 
  - it may well be  harmonicon   Feb-07-08 03:38 PM   #21 
  - Yes, well, between council housing and the NHS, workers there are freed  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-08-08 11:37 AM   #52 
     - I don't really know to be honest  harmonicon   Feb-08-08 04:42 PM   #64 
  - My dad never made more than $6 per hour  Oeditpus Rex   Feb-07-08 03:02 PM   #16 
  - We'll never again see that kind of opportunity for the "American dream."  HypnoToad   Feb-07-08 04:56 PM   #32 
  - My father built caskets for almost 30 years.  azmouse   Feb-07-08 03:07 PM   #17 
  - my husband has a job that supports us nicely but we have no debt  AZDemDist6   Feb-07-08 03:11 PM   #18 
  - can you stomach goat's milk?  adsosletter   Feb-07-08 03:18 PM   #19 
     - he's the milk drinker not me and I doubt he'll go for it LOL  AZDemDist6   Feb-07-08 03:52 PM   #24 
        -'s an acquired taste alright...  adsosletter   Feb-07-08 04:08 PM   #29 
  - Increasing the size of the work force tends to drive down the cost of labor.  Orsino   Feb-07-08 03:39 PM   #22 
  - My wife has to work only to have and afford health insurance  DaveTheWave   Feb-07-08 03:46 PM   #23 
  - Why, thank you. I hadn't thought of that. And I bet many others didn't, as well.  Redstone   Feb-07-08 04:06 PM   #28 
  - I was just about to post something to this effect.  SteppingRazor   Feb-08-08 11:09 AM   #48 
  - this is completely bogus, we have also doubled the population  pitohui   Feb-09-08 07:01 PM   #81 
  - I know you are not criticizing it, but to complete this thought...  RadiationTherapy   Feb-08-08 11:53 AM   #54 
     - Yeah. It's a trade-off...  Orsino   Feb-08-08 12:02 PM   #56 
  - Where I grew up  MonkeyFunk   Feb-07-08 04:05 PM   #27 
  - My dad was a mechanic for the New York Dept of Sanitation for 27 years.  Javaman   Feb-07-08 04:09 PM   #30 
  - My Dad was an over the road trucker  GTRMAN   Feb-07-08 04:18 PM   #31 
  - Hell, my own family's an example.  Hand   Feb-07-08 07:08 PM   #33 
  - I think I may have an answer for that one.  Brigid   Feb-07-08 07:16 PM   #34 
     - Undermined, hell.  seawolf   Feb-07-08 09:13 PM   #36 
        - Yeah, that works too.  Brigid   Feb-09-08 08:56 AM   #70 
  - Bethlehem Steel.  WinkyDink   Feb-07-08 07:16 PM   #35 
  - My grandfather was an assembly line worker.  baldguy   Feb-08-08 08:00 AM   #40 
  - My stepfather worked for a shipping line out of Wilmington, California...  KansDem   Feb-08-08 10:25 AM   #42 
  - My dad and most of my uncles worked on the railroad.  Swede   Feb-08-08 10:31 AM   #43 
  - read these articles and pass them along  unpossibles   Feb-08-08 10:37 AM   #44 
  - This should be its own thread.  azmouse   Feb-08-08 10:40 AM   #45 
     - no, it's ok - I will repost them. thanks! nt  unpossibles   Feb-08-08 10:55 AM   #46 
  - My dad was a dairy farmer  Highway61   Feb-08-08 11:02 AM   #47 
  - Every prior generation  Coyote_Bandit   Feb-08-08 11:10 AM   #49 
  - Try getting your friend  hippywife   Feb-09-08 08:33 AM   #67 
     - To my knowledge  Coyote_Bandit   Feb-09-08 08:45 AM   #68 
        - Whoa!  hippywife   Feb-09-08 09:00 AM   #71 
           - Like most poultry and egg producers  Coyote_Bandit   Feb-09-08 05:56 PM   #79 
  - My great uncle was a school janitor  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-08-08 11:34 AM   #51 
  - my mom was single from the time I was 2  movie_girl99   Feb-08-08 11:43 AM   #53 
  - I made a similar point a few weeks ago  EstimatedProphet   Feb-08-08 12:01 PM   #55 
  - the oligarchy has worked tirelessly to destroy the middle class  leftofthedial   Feb-08-08 01:55 PM   #59 
  - Centurion  CreekDog   Feb-08-08 01:59 PM   #60 
  - To be fair, life has a lot more bells and whistles these days.  grace0418   Feb-08-08 02:42 PM   #61 
  - One thing that I noticed too  DaveTheWave   Feb-09-08 07:57 AM   #66 
  - Oh yeah. We've been in our condo for 8 years and we've seen most of the other  grace0418   Feb-09-08 09:51 AM   #73 
     - It's smart living, good for the pocket book and the environment  DaveTheWave   Feb-09-08 12:27 PM   #77 
  - You have a point.  Brigid   Feb-09-08 09:35 AM   #72 
     - Credit cards and rampant consumerism are training us to believe we need  grace0418   Feb-09-08 09:55 AM   #75 
  - there are a lot of differences  greymattermom   Feb-09-08 08:48 AM   #69 
  - Meatpacking before the unions were busted.  Heidi   Feb-09-08 10:23 AM   #76 
  - Dad was a teacher in 1970  WakeMeUp   Feb-09-08 12:39 PM   #78 
  - This one:  Xipe Totec   Feb-09-08 05:58 PM   #80 

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