hfojvt
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Fri Oct-12-07 05:19 AM
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| 16. I was making the same point to the marine, really, |
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when my internet explorer crashed. Still, depending on the medical costs. If they were, say, $40,000, why couldn't that family get a home equity loan or refinance with cash-out and pay their medical bills that way? Shouldn't a family with $400,000 in assets do that before they rely on public assistance? Assistance which many people, such as say, myself, do not get in spite of having much less in assets.
As far as California goes. According to my 2001 SAUS, the poverty rate in California was 13.8%, compared to 11.8% nationally. And the Federal poverty level does not make allowances for California's higher costs and higher incomes. So I am guessing that California also has many people below 200% of the federal poverty level. Even in California, that familiy's income and assets do not qualify for "very low" or "extremely moderate".
It's not about me and them, but I make that a Kantian absolute that people making $3X should not get public subsidies that people making $X do not get.
I argued the same thing with the Bush tax cuts. Bill Gates should not get a $20,000,000 tax cut because a) he doesn't need it, and b) other, needier, people are not getting diddley-squat.
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| -ARRGH, Some Idiot Is Defending The Attack On Frost. |
lligrd |
Oct-12-07 12:09 AM |
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Freeper. |
SeattleGirl |
Oct-12-07 12:11 AM |
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Hah, Wants Me to Send Him Some Money |
lligrd |
Oct-12-07 12:14 AM |
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and he makes $75,000-$100,000 according to his my space page |
OurVotesCount-Ohio |
Oct-13-07 10:51 AM |
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33 Posts now |
Zenzic |
Oct-12-07 02:01 AM |
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They Are Asking For Volunteers |
lligrd |
Oct-12-07 04:19 AM |
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I just posted |
Gilligan |
Oct-12-07 07:52 AM |
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the few and the proud |
hfojvt |
Oct-12-07 02:25 AM |
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they support six people on three times your income |
AZDemDist6 |
Oct-12-07 02:45 AM |
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only if costs are linear |
hfojvt |
Oct-12-07 03:49 AM |
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Popping Out Children?? |
lligrd |
Oct-12-07 04:25 AM |
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Does the next generation really need to be twice as numerous. |
hfojvt |
Oct-12-07 05:00 AM |
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Oh, I Get Your Point |
lligrd |
Oct-12-07 05:05 AM |
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it is only when they are flying out of the womb at an alarming rate |
hfojvt |
Oct-12-07 05:30 AM |
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Sorry, Can't Go There |
lligrd |
Oct-12-07 05:38 AM |
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4 people |
Gilligan |
Oct-12-07 08:02 AM |
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is it punishment if I insist that I should not have to pay for each additional child? |
hfojvt |
Oct-12-07 02:09 PM |
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You seem to assume that someone with "too many" offspring |
Kali |
Oct-12-07 02:52 PM |
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Once upon a time I had a job. It paid $11.30 an hour. |
hfojvt |
Oct-12-07 03:48 PM |
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I think you have a very basic math problem. |
Kali |
Oct-12-07 05:17 PM |
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a greater number of people |
hfojvt |
Oct-12-07 06:29 PM |
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actually you sound just like a republicon |
Kali |
Oct-12-07 06:36 PM |
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I have no empathy for others? |
hfojvt |
Oct-12-07 09:01 PM |
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I think my biggest problem with your attitude is that old "personal responsibility" |
Kali |
Oct-13-07 10:18 AM |
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How much do you pay for health insurance? |
Zenzic |
Oct-12-07 03:34 AM |
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$2,666.04 not including what I pay for dental |
hfojvt |
Oct-12-07 04:07 AM |
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Is that for a month or for a year? |
Zenzic |
Oct-12-07 04:17 AM |
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it would be kinda tough to pay that each month |
hfojvt |
Oct-12-07 04:28 AM |
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You make minimum wage, correct? |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 07:17 AM |
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Hard To Compare Costs, Really Depends A Lot On |
lligrd |
Oct-12-07 04:12 AM |
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I was making the same point to the marine, really, |
hfojvt |
Oct-12-07 05:19 AM |
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We Can Agree On Some Things |
lligrd |
Oct-12-07 05:52 AM |
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So it's better that the family mires themselves in debt they'll never be able to repay |
JulieRB |
Oct-12-07 07:09 AM |
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What is debt they will never be able to repay? |
hfojvt |
Oct-12-07 03:15 PM |
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Oh, that makes it all okay then. |
JulieRB |
Oct-12-07 06:14 PM |
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Universal health care for all, right now |
alarimer |
Oct-12-07 09:48 AM |
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Tried buying outside healthcare recently? I have. |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 07:13 AM |
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and stiLL no granite |
sniffa |
Oct-12-07 06:34 AM |
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WHY isn't that fucker TOMBSTONED???? |
Tyler Durden |
Oct-12-07 07:08 AM |
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Did a little research....a few quotes from elsewhere |
new_beawr |
Oct-12-07 12:57 PM |
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He's got a myspace page |
Gilligan |
Oct-12-07 05:26 PM |
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he has listed the "left behind" series in the "books" category. |
jonnyblitz |
Oct-12-07 05:28 PM |
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And Fox News in the TV category! |
ThomCat |
Oct-12-07 05:30 PM |
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That guy was a brainwashed hoot. LOL |
Javaman |
Oct-12-07 04:05 PM |
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a very enjyoable TS'ing for that one. |
Elrond Hubbard |
Oct-12-07 04:31 PM |
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He's TS'ed |
Gilligan |
Oct-12-07 05:23 PM |
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Always speak good of the dead... |
regnaD kciN |
Oct-12-07 07:01 PM |
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