LostinVA
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Wed May-30-07 08:28 AM
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I was the lone almost-ex-Catholic/Christians in a class of seminary-bound Methodists. It was a very interesting language to study: we read/translated/parsed the whole NT, learned about the origins of the NT documents and the various translations, read commentaries, did exegeses, etc.
You had to get over the alphabet, but that was pretty quick. And, if you've studied any Latin, the grammar and language structure is often very similar.
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| -"I was wondering, since i can read French, would it be okay to read the Bible in French?" |
Bluebear |
May-29-07 05:46 PM |
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Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
malaise |
May-29-07 05:47 PM |
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Yep! |
MonkeyFunk |
May-29-07 05:48 PM |
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wonder if they know that King James was gay? ya think? n/t |
angstlessk |
May-29-07 05:48 PM |
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And, apparently, very old since he was alive during the |
Clark2008 |
May-29-07 05:50 PM |
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dumb. dumber. dumbest. Not sure how to say that in French. |
redwitch |
May-29-07 05:48 PM |
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Submit to FSTDT [end] |
Bright Eyes |
May-29-07 05:49 PM |
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I can't. |
Bluebear |
May-29-07 05:49 PM |
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Awesome site! |
deucemagnet |
May-30-07 03:43 PM |
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They'd probably be suspicious of the Greek version |
Canuckistanian |
May-29-07 05:49 PM |
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greek |
jollyreaper2112 |
May-29-07 10:58 PM |
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Well, um |
Canuckistanian |
May-29-07 11:19 PM |
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Dude, I'm using fundie logic |
jollyreaper2112 |
May-29-07 11:25 PM |
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Ok, gotcha |
Canuckistanian |
May-29-07 11:32 PM |
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KJV is a "prefect translation" eh? |
Catch22Dem |
May-29-07 05:51 PM |
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Looky!!! I fond ****12**** angels on this pinhead!!! |
BlooInBloo |
May-29-07 05:51 PM |
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You certainly do |
spoony |
May-29-07 05:51 PM |
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Are there substantive differences between Catholic and Protestant versions? |
BlooInBloo |
May-29-07 05:52 PM |
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The Catholic bible still includes some writings which the Protestants removed. |
dicksteele |
May-29-07 06:03 PM |
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the ironic bit about it all is... |
Reverend_Smitty |
May-29-07 05:53 PM |
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Yup, I studied Koines Greek, and you're correct |
LostinVA |
May-30-07 07:45 AM |
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As compared to what? |
TrogL |
May-30-07 01:54 PM |
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WTF is with Fundies and the KJV Bible? |
Odin2005 |
May-29-07 05:55 PM |
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I think it's all the "thou's" and "thine's".... |
progdonkey |
May-29-07 06:47 PM |
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What is a KJV, KGB Bible? |
lonestarnot |
May-29-07 11:00 PM |
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Intellectual/Theological issues aside, the KJV is a TIMELESS MASTERPIECE of the Anglish Linguage. |
dicksteele |
May-30-07 02:18 AM |
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It doesn't make sense |
China_cat |
May-30-07 05:30 AM |
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Keeping people dependent on authority figures, I think... |
benEzra |
May-30-07 09:13 AM |
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Good crimony |
shenmue |
May-29-07 05:56 PM |
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Jesus hates the French for not joining us in Iraq. Of course it should only be read in English. |
MidwestTransplant |
May-29-07 05:59 PM |
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Jesus won't eat |
zidzi |
May-29-07 06:19 PM |
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Does that mean French Stewart is going to Hell? |
primate1 |
May-30-07 02:59 AM |
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Yes ... |
meegbear |
May-30-07 11:14 AM |
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LOL - "Perfect Translation" is a bit of an oxymoron |
gollygee |
May-29-07 06:00 PM |
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No. French is a sin |
dave_p |
May-29-07 06:05 PM |
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No thinking and no dissent! |
gollygee |
May-29-07 06:06 PM |
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And no touching! |
dave_p |
May-29-07 06:10 PM |
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Oh no - none of that! |
gollygee |
May-29-07 06:13 PM |
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We can sit so long as there's a Bible |
dave_p |
May-29-07 06:45 PM |
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I've always been a mass debater |
Canuckistanian |
May-29-07 11:00 PM |
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Good one! Except you'll go blind, ya know ... |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
May-30-07 06:42 AM |
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"the KJV is a perfect translation" -- how do they know? |
magellan |
May-29-07 06:07 PM |
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God told them. |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-29-07 06:07 PM |
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LOL! So close and yet so far |
electron_blue |
May-30-07 11:16 AM |
#115 |
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Well, it was perfect for 17th century England |
Gormy Cuss |
May-30-07 11:23 AM |
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Cherchez les moneylenders! "If you're not VERY careful you'll end up IN a bad version" |
blondeatlast |
May-29-07 06:07 PM |
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I can picture the poor little teen IN the whale's belly or something! |
Bluebear |
May-29-07 06:15 PM |
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That's how the French do it, see? We offer them bad Bible |
blondeatlast |
May-29-07 06:21 PM |
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Oh, it's such a goldmine! |
dave_p |
May-29-07 06:27 PM |
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Silly rabbit. There's no Bible in French. |
KamaAina |
May-29-07 06:28 PM |
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Something I agree with |
dave_p |
May-29-07 06:38 PM |
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k&r for Bluebear's funny post....n/t |
Madspirit |
May-29-07 06:46 PM |
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In my teen years, I studied the Bible in English. I was also taking French |
Nikia |
May-29-07 06:47 PM |
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For mainline Protestants , the KJV IS the "Authorized" Bible. |
WinkyDink |
May-29-07 06:48 PM |
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Yes, we're just such an evil, evil bunch of people. |
Bluebear |
May-29-07 10:41 PM |
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Easier targets |
spoony |
May-29-07 11:23 PM |
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Uh huh. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
May-29-07 11:28 PM |
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Wow, you can post pictures |
spoony |
May-29-07 11:35 PM |
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Thank you for your concern. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
May-29-07 11:27 PM |
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You share a remarkable lack of subtlety when calling people trolls |
spoony |
May-29-07 11:36 PM |
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I can only imagine |
Bluebear |
May-29-07 11:37 PM |
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Just more dissent you'd want nothing to do with. |
spoony |
May-29-07 11:39 PM |
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You shouldn't ignore posters like that, really. My momma always said... |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
May-29-07 11:43 PM |
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This website SUCKS. |
WritingIsMyReligion |
May-30-07 05:30 AM |
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Dude, it doesn't MATTER if they're teens or not. I'm a teenager, and I have more sense than that. |
TheFriendlyAnarchist |
May-30-07 07:08 AM |
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We're not mocking a teen board. We're mocking the ignorant shitheads AT a teen board. |
Rabrrrrrr |
May-30-07 01:58 PM |
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Actually, it's not the KJV |
supernova |
May-30-07 03:21 PM |
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"NO FRENCH! Read your Scripture in ENGLISH, the language Jesus spoke!" |
igil |
May-29-07 06:49 PM |
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Sorry for misleading everybody. |
Bluebear |
May-29-07 10:43 PM |
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The question is, |
Jed Dilligan |
May-29-07 07:19 PM |
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The nonsense about the KJV is foolish |
dsc |
May-29-07 07:47 PM |
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You don't think it's goofy to say "you might end up in a bad translation"? |
Bluebear |
May-29-07 10:44 PM |
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No I don't |
dsc |
May-30-07 12:41 AM |
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But English is considered the original bad translation. |
gatorboy |
May-29-07 10:54 PM |
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KJV is a "perfect translation"? |
Left Is Write |
May-29-07 07:54 PM |
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now that's rich |
Solly Mack |
May-29-07 07:56 PM |
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KJV has substantial problems and is very difficult to read |
Perky |
May-29-07 08:01 PM |
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I was taught to read and understand Latin & French, in grade school. |
Breeze54 |
May-29-07 10:47 PM |
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I've read the Bible in French. |
mycritters2 |
May-29-07 10:47 PM |
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Maybe they should go back to the original Latin, |
gatorboy |
May-29-07 10:52 PM |
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Hmm - is that sarcasm? |
muriel_volestrangler |
May-30-07 05:27 AM |
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No, actually it's not |
LibertyLover |
May-30-07 01:46 PM |
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The original books of the bible were in Hebrew, Greek and a little Aramaic |
muriel_volestrangler |
May-30-07 03:10 PM |
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Absolutely - |
LibertyLover |
May-30-07 03:34 PM |
#129 |
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But the original wasn't in Latin. n/t |
geardaddy |
May-30-07 02:09 PM |
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"Though the KJV is a perfect translation,.." |
ContraBass Black |
May-29-07 10:58 PM |
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jesus h cthulhu |
jollyreaper2112 |
May-29-07 10:59 PM |
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haha! |
jollyreaper2112 |
May-29-07 11:00 PM |
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Bro Randy amuses me so much. |
LeftyMom |
May-29-07 11:04 PM |
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this says it all |
jollyreaper2112 |
May-29-07 11:05 PM |
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oh my god |
jollyreaper2112 |
May-29-07 11:08 PM |
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I just read that one |
Oeditpus Rex |
May-30-07 01:25 AM |
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French??? |
GTRMAN |
May-29-07 11:10 PM |
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ok, need to cap this off |
jollyreaper2112 |
May-29-07 11:19 PM |
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I'm still hunting for the bible in Klingonese...anyone? n/t |
cynatnite |
May-29-07 11:22 PM |
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think I will get a copy of the Luther Bible (in German) |
kineneb |
May-29-07 11:27 PM |
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Great point, his work was vital |
spoony |
May-29-07 11:38 PM |
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The copying alone that was done in early Christianity... |
cynatnite |
May-29-07 11:35 PM |
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Not to mention all the drunk interpreters! |
Breeze54 |
May-29-07 11:40 PM |
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Many scribes in those early days couldn't even read, but they copied... |
cynatnite |
May-29-07 11:42 PM |
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Wow! You look young for your age! |
Breeze54 |
May-29-07 11:49 PM |
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They better learn Latin, Greek and Hebrew. And a bit of Aramaic. |
Perragrande |
May-29-07 11:41 PM |
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I prefer the KJV. "New" translations seem to be apologetics. |
Nevernose |
May-29-07 11:51 PM |
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Check some of the Teens-4-Christ rules: |
Oeditpus Rex |
May-30-07 01:39 AM |
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Wow, who knew that about debaters? |
Connonym |
May-30-07 05:54 AM |
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Shit, I've been wasting all this time NOT making money in return for sex. Since I'm |
grace0418 |
May-30-07 09:47 AM |
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...What? KJV is a "perfect" translation? What? |
baby_mouse |
May-30-07 05:03 AM |
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I'm weary of seeing religions - even extremist FECs like this - picked on. |
bertha katzenengel |
May-30-07 05:11 AM |
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and I am weary of people like you who believe religion is above |
jonnyblitz |
May-30-07 06:48 AM |
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Looks like we're both weary. |
bertha katzenengel |
May-30-07 07:47 AM |
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not criticizing religion is part of why we are in the state we are in |
lionesspriyanka |
May-30-07 07:06 AM |
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It has always worked against humanity - agreed. |
bertha katzenengel |
May-30-07 08:42 AM |
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no i think making rational arguments against any belief system whether it be political or religious |
lionesspriyanka |
May-30-07 09:17 AM |
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They deserve to be criticized. |
Deep13 |
May-30-07 09:41 AM |
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isnt transalation into english already a 'second generation' translation? |
lionesspriyanka |
May-30-07 06:36 AM |
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HaVing studied Koines Greek in college |
LostinVA |
May-30-07 07:42 AM |
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Wow, I may just take a class in Koines Greek now |
AllegroRondo |
May-30-07 07:51 AM |
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It was |
LostinVA |
May-30-07 08:28 AM |
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I've studied Greek, too. |
donco6 |
May-30-07 08:06 AM |
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All seven of us would ALL have different translations |
LostinVA |
May-30-07 08:25 AM |
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People just don't understand . . . |
donco6 |
May-30-07 09:42 AM |
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Including certain idioms and cultural ideas/references |
LostinVA |
May-30-07 09:48 AM |
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I've been trying to study it alone |
TrogL |
May-30-07 02:56 PM |
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I'd bet more than 50% of "Bible Believers" . . . |
donco6 |
May-30-07 05:16 PM |
#132 |
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Yeah, read in God's language, English. |
Deep13 |
May-30-07 07:56 AM |
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KJV is a perfect translation |
Bassic |
May-30-07 09:06 AM |
#105 |
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They tell some real FUNNY jokes. |
edbermac |
May-30-07 09:25 AM |
#108 |
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let me rephrase the punchline |
jollyreaper2112 |
May-30-07 02:51 PM |
#125 |
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"second generation translations"... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. It came from God's mouth |
grace0418 |
May-30-07 09:44 AM |
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So I guess that Klingon version I downloaded is no good. |
trogdor |
May-30-07 11:18 AM |
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Philistines have no honour! |
billyskank |
May-30-07 12:06 PM |
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They read the bible? |
billyskank |
May-30-07 12:04 PM |
#118 |
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English didn't exist in Jesus' time. |
geardaddy |
May-30-07 01:52 PM |
#121 |
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Sacre merde! |
bikebloke |
May-30-07 03:43 PM |
#130 |
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Do they actually believe the bullshit they spew? |
EstimatedProphet |
May-31-07 08:36 PM |
#133 |
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