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| 57. And People Wonder Why I'm "Always" In Such A Foul Mood |
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And my father wonders why I never call.
At times I've become accustomed to being their verbal target. I think I can handle the ridicule and name calling and jokes.
It's when queers become the LEGAL target... when they start trying to LEGISLATE bigotry or when they start trying to relegate us into being second-class citizens. When they make it LEGAL to fire someone from their job or when the take away a mother's baby because she's a lesbian.
Then there are the folks who want to make queers a LITERAL target. Say his name with me: Matthew Sheppard. Don't get me started on that. My blood pressure will pop vessels in my eyeballs and I'll not be able to get to sleep.
Sometimes it does feel like I could lose my mind... but it's better than it was 50 years ago. And even if I don't see gay marriages legalized in my lifetime... a future generation of Queers will look back at this "turn-of-the-century" generation in the same way we now look back and show how much we appreciate our Stonewall brothers and sisters.
-- Allen
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| -How do gay people, minorities, immigrants STAND IT ??? |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 05:32 PM |
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as a bisexual hispanic woman.... |
corporatewhore |
Jan-16-04 05:34 PM |
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can I have some specific examples... |
brainwashed_youth |
Jan-16-04 05:35 PM |
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I.................ER................... |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 05:35 PM |
#3 |
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HAD to be..... |
Misinformed01 |
Jan-16-04 05:38 PM |
#9 |
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nah hes serious |
Kamika |
Jan-16-04 06:06 PM |
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all you have to do is open your eyes |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 06:38 PM |
#25 |
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aren't we stereotyping a bit here? |
private_ryan |
Jan-16-04 07:56 PM |
#34 |
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Ah, the predictable, by-the-numbers faux outrage. |
Character Assassin |
Jan-16-04 09:10 PM |
#37 |
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*shudder* |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 09:14 PM |
#39 |
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Yeah, I get it. It's pretty simple. |
Character Assassin |
Jan-16-04 09:45 PM |
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You Want Examples? Ok |
Beetwasher |
Jan-16-04 10:47 PM |
#56 |
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Wow. That's really special. |
Character Assassin |
Jan-16-04 11:28 PM |
#58 |
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Ya know what? |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jan-17-04 12:37 AM |
#63 |
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PlEASE tell me you're joking |
burythehatchet |
Jan-17-04 12:38 AM |
#64 |
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He isn't. |
JanMichael |
Jan-17-04 01:00 AM |
#72 |
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Logic, reason and dispassionate analysis are our friends |
Character Assassin |
Jan-17-04 11:49 AM |
#74 |
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oh, I have paid attention |
Skittles |
Jan-18-04 09:49 PM |
#150 |
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Actually you don't need a political example |
camero |
Jan-17-04 12:52 AM |
#68 |
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You're stating that these are traceable derivatives of Republican politics |
Character Assassin |
Jan-17-04 11:47 AM |
#73 |
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Ugh, clearly you do not get it |
Skittles |
Jan-17-04 12:30 PM |
#78 |
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Discrimination and hate are LEARNED |
camero |
Jan-17-04 01:54 PM |
#81 |
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Hate is most assuredly a natural emotion |
Character Assassin |
Jan-17-04 01:59 PM |
#82 |
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Been reading too much Darwin have we? |
camero |
Jan-17-04 02:14 PM |
#85 |
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While Darwin isn't necessary to get this; you miss my point entirely |
Character Assassin |
Jan-17-04 02:20 PM |
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So then it's ok to deny other people their rights? |
camero |
Jan-17-04 02:31 PM |
#87 |
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What a ridiculous inference. |
Character Assassin |
Jan-17-04 02:44 PM |
#88 |
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You said hate was natural |
camero |
Jan-17-04 02:45 PM |
#90 |
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Oh, please. You need to think this through a little more |
Character Assassin |
Jan-17-04 02:56 PM |
#91 |
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Well there was that one thread |
DrWeird |
Jan-17-04 04:16 PM |
#104 |
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And I stand by that statement, although I fail to see the relevance |
Character Assassin |
Jan-17-04 08:53 PM |
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The SCOTUS interpretation of the ADA |
camero |
Jan-17-04 09:46 PM |
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The fact that the ADA exists at all goes against my philosophy |
Character Assassin |
Jan-17-04 09:53 PM |
#112 |
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What? That people with disabilities should have rights? |
camero |
Jan-17-04 10:15 PM |
#113 |
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Of course they should have rights. Precisely the same as you and I |
Character Assassin |
Jan-18-04 12:46 AM |
#115 |
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Libertarianism and theosophy go hand in hand |
camero |
Jan-18-04 01:13 AM |
#117 |
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Assuming will get you into a lot of trouble |
Character Assassin |
Jan-18-04 10:28 AM |
#119 |
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Libertarianism is the utopian fantasyland |
camero |
Jan-18-04 01:31 PM |
#126 |
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I see that you are utterly unacquainted with libertarianism |
Character Assassin |
Jan-18-04 01:41 PM |
#127 |
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Come to florida |
camero |
Jan-18-04 02:29 PM |
#130 |
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I'm not a Libertarian, thanks. I'm a libertarian. |
Character Assassin |
Jan-18-04 02:33 PM |
#131 |
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Hmm? |
camero |
Jan-18-04 02:43 PM |
#132 |
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You are confusing two seperate things. |
Character Assassin |
Jan-18-04 02:47 PM |
#135 |
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This is libertarian, thanks |
camero |
Jan-18-04 02:45 PM |
#133 |
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Spare me the chumpchange, schoolyard rhetoric, thanks |
Character Assassin |
Jan-18-04 02:50 PM |
#136 |
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Aww, did i criticize your philosophy? |
camero |
Jan-18-04 02:55 PM |
#137 |
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No, you didn't. You didn't even address it, really. |
Character Assassin |
Jan-18-04 03:00 PM |
#138 |
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Chomsky will explain it. |
camero |
Jan-18-04 03:24 PM |
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Explain what? Chomsky is addressing the Libertarians |
Character Assassin |
Jan-18-04 03:33 PM |
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Then what's this? |
camero |
Jan-18-04 03:41 PM |
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It should be obvious to you. |
Character Assassin |
Jan-18-04 03:50 PM |
#143 |
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You assume people are better than they are |
camero |
Jan-18-04 03:54 PM |
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I assume nothing of the sort. You presume to tell me my own philosophy |
Character Assassin |
Jan-18-04 04:00 PM |
#145 |
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Then do it. |
camero |
Jan-18-04 04:08 PM |
#146 |
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If these are your last words on the subject |
Character Assassin |
Jan-18-04 04:13 PM |
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purging of 90,000 FL voters NOT a 'conscious act'????????? |
bobbieinok |
Jan-17-04 11:02 PM |
#114 |
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there's an example, CA |
Skittles |
Jan-18-04 11:31 AM |
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To say nothing of the Democratic redistricting of Texas several years ago |
Character Assassin |
Jan-18-04 01:56 PM |
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Who says it didn't ????????????????????????? |
Skittles |
Jan-18-04 09:47 PM |
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How about the sheer coincidence .. |
Uzybone |
Jan-16-04 06:54 PM |
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chill out |
Kamika |
Jan-16-04 07:14 PM |
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I would say PICKERING |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 09:17 PM |
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here's a specific example for you |
kgfnally |
Jan-17-04 12:20 PM |
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PARENTAL HOMOPHOBIA. READ THE ABOVE POST. |
Bertha Venation |
Jan-17-04 03:42 PM |
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Nice to see KKKristianity in action |
The Zanti Regent |
Jan-18-04 12:01 PM |
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Disgusting. |
Bertha Venation |
Jan-18-04 01:23 PM |
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OMG...I am so sorry |
dawn |
Jan-18-04 03:17 PM |
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I'm sure they can't stand it at all. It's our job to get them to the poll |
Pobeka |
Jan-16-04 05:36 PM |
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Sadly, neither party has anything significant to offer minorities |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-16-04 06:04 PM |
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DTF |
burythehatchet |
Jan-17-04 12:43 AM |
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Yes, nothing at all to offer. |
Kanary |
Jan-18-04 02:01 AM |
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If you believe that, then you may as well vote for Bush |
Pobeka |
Jan-18-04 11:53 AM |
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Yes, the possibility of a token gesture is indeed the best you can say |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-18-04 12:29 PM |
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I'm not saying it's the desired end, but a step in the right direction |
Pobeka |
Jan-18-04 01:21 PM |
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I think we can agree that many white voters feel some frustration |
DuctapeFatwa |
Jan-18-04 01:54 PM |
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Worry not dude..we're going to the polls |
burythehatchet |
Jan-17-04 12:41 AM |
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It's called suicide... |
Democrats unite |
Jan-16-04 05:36 PM |
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"friends who don't accept you" are NOT FRIENDS |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 05:37 PM |
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Thank you Skittles. |
Democrats unite |
Jan-16-04 05:42 PM |
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I'm not gay but I'm asian.. oh and a woman |
Kamika |
Jan-16-04 05:37 PM |
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as a gay black woman |
Insider |
Jan-16-04 05:37 PM |
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AMEN, Insider |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 05:39 PM |
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As a gay man |
jsw_81 |
Jan-16-04 05:40 PM |
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We rage, rage, rage against the machine |
TrogL |
Jan-16-04 05:41 PM |
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Hell, I'm a white straight married male and *I'm* outraged... |
Richardo |
Jan-16-04 05:41 PM |
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It's really nothing new. |
mlawson |
Jan-16-04 05:44 PM |
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Tell that to the guy that keeps yelling at me from his balcony |
TrogL |
Jan-17-04 12:50 AM |
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We're all their target. Even they are their own target. |
Pobeka |
Jan-16-04 05:46 PM |
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You hit that on the nose |
Rabrrrrrr |
Jan-16-04 06:05 PM |
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it's hard for a wasp like me to imagine being hated for being you |
jonoboy |
Jan-16-04 05:47 PM |
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I felt the sting of anti-Americanism as a child in England |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 05:52 PM |
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Joshua Solomon wondered, too |
Lurking_Argyle |
Jan-16-04 06:40 PM |
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read my post above n/t |
kgfnally |
Jan-17-04 12:28 PM |
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because I know I wont be a minority forever. |
TexasMexican |
Jan-16-04 05:48 PM |
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There's a line from "The Color Purple" |
Bundbuster |
Jan-16-04 06:08 PM |
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you are right |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 06:34 PM |
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I think women are their target all the time too. |
Cleita |
Jan-16-04 06:39 PM |
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and the middle class, which also includes me (for now); |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 06:45 PM |
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We just do |
HypnoToad |
Jan-16-04 06:46 PM |
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there was a twilight zone episode in which a bigot |
corporatewhore |
Jan-16-04 07:06 PM |
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I've wondered about that too |
Piperay |
Jan-16-04 07:21 PM |
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Because the meantime alternatives are not valid options. |
Bertha Venation |
Jan-16-04 08:44 PM |
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With out reading others responses |
Scottie72 |
Jan-16-04 09:08 PM |
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well Scotty |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 09:12 PM |
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Skittles I can tell you its BAD |
burythehatchet |
Jan-17-04 12:53 AM |
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Skittles... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jan-16-04 09:18 PM |
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I have seen misogyny and homophoia in the DU |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 09:22 PM |
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And unfortunately these attitudes are tolerated |
RationalRose |
Jan-16-04 09:33 PM |
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Yes it is tolerated... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jan-16-04 09:37 PM |
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damn right they are |
Bertha Venation |
Jan-16-04 10:05 PM |
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head over to the civil rights forums...I got picked on a bit today. |
Cannikin |
Jan-16-04 09:36 PM |
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Yep... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jan-16-04 09:40 PM |
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I'm not sure how left everyone is around here... |
bloom |
Jan-16-04 09:59 PM |
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Of course... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jan-16-04 10:11 PM |
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did you see this one posted today? |
mitchtv |
Jan-16-04 09:44 PM |
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as a football-watching working-class white guy, i am a target too |
KG |
Jan-16-04 09:46 PM |
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It's a lot like what my mom says about getting old... |
Sapphocrat |
Jan-16-04 09:50 PM |
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I second that! |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jan-16-04 10:02 PM |
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We need more Skittles in the World |
camero |
Jan-16-04 10:45 PM |
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Y'ALL ARE VERY SWEET |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 11:49 PM |
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I just hope you don't live in Dumbass, TX |
camero |
Jan-17-04 12:59 AM |
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lol |
Skittles |
Jan-17-04 12:31 PM |
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And People Wonder Why I'm "Always" In Such A Foul Mood |
arwalden |
Jan-16-04 10:52 PM |
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WE NEED TO KICK SOME SERIOUS ASS, ALLEN |
Skittles |
Jan-16-04 11:50 PM |
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As an Indian |
Independent429 |
Jan-16-04 11:58 PM |
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It goes to show you that |
burythehatchet |
Jan-17-04 12:58 AM |
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white, straight, Christian males are also targets |
Independent429 |
Jan-17-04 12:06 AM |
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oh yes, indeed you are |
Skittles |
Jan-17-04 12:33 PM |
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The Federal Marriage Amendment is a perfect example of my anger |
terrya |
Jan-17-04 12:07 PM |
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If you're a minority, immigrant or gay who benefits economically... |
mitchum |
Jan-17-04 02:06 PM |
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I don't follow your logic. |
Bertha Venation |
Jan-17-04 02:13 PM |
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My logic does recognize the fact that Log Cabin republicans, Hispanic... |
mitchum |
Jan-17-04 02:44 PM |
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not trying to pick a fight |
Bertha Venation |
Jan-17-04 03:19 PM |
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It certainly is NOT |
Kamika |
Jan-17-04 03:23 PM |
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Well hell, how can I argue with the denial of the basic human need... |
mitchum |
Jan-17-04 03:34 PM |
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Economy isn't everything dude |
Kamika |
Jan-17-04 02:58 PM |
#92 |
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Your father is to be commended on his decency, dudette... |
mitchum |
Jan-17-04 03:28 PM |
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I begin to see your point a bit more clearly. Question: |
Bertha Venation |
Jan-17-04 03:29 PM |
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It's raw meat to the deluded bigots who support the republican party... |
mitchum |
Jan-17-04 03:44 PM |
#99 |
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And the effects on civil rights will be astounding |
Bertha Venation |
Jan-17-04 03:55 PM |
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The result WILL transcend any question of economics... |
mitchum |
Jan-17-04 04:13 PM |
#103 |
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indeed |
Bertha Venation |
Jan-17-04 09:33 PM |
#110 |
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no but |
private_ryan |
Jan-18-04 02:45 PM |
#134 |
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I guess you haven't figured out that the only pockets Republicans |
Cleita |
Jan-17-04 03:52 PM |
#100 |
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HUH??? |
mitchum |
Jan-17-04 04:08 PM |
#102 |
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But what is economic gain... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jan-17-04 07:45 PM |
#105 |
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Hell if I know. Ask Andrew Sullivan and Log Cabin Republicans |
mitchum |
Jan-17-04 08:33 PM |
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Ya know... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Jan-17-04 09:10 PM |
#108 |
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Money isn't everything to you because you are a far better person... |
mitchum |
Jan-17-04 09:15 PM |
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A solid political perspective certainly helps |
MSchreader |
Jan-18-04 12:55 AM |
#116 |
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When I See An Act Of Bigotry I Do Everything I Can To Expose It |
kpharmer |
Jan-18-04 04:11 PM |
#147 |
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