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Thu May-10-07 12:42 AM
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| -Alternatives to Alcoholics Anonymous and Other 12 step programs |
Southpawkicker |
May-09-07 09:24 PM |
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AZDemDist6 |
May-09-07 09:26 PM |
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How come no one is replying? |
Southpawkicker |
May-09-07 10:03 PM |
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AA has better coffee. |
rug |
May-09-07 10:41 PM |
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Ha ha ha! |
Southpawkicker |
May-09-07 10:56 PM |
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There's Rational Recovery |
rug |
May-09-07 11:03 PM |
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Okay! |
Southpawkicker |
May-09-07 11:05 PM |
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Yeah, it flies in the face of Step Two. |
rug |
May-09-07 11:10 PM |
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Gosh I hope it does not - the other one did not. |
KitchenWitch |
May-09-07 11:11 PM |
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I see it as flying in the face of the disease concept of alcoholism |
Southpawkicker |
May-09-07 11:28 PM |
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There's another group, Moderation Management, that takes the same approach. |
rug |
May-10-07 12:00 AM |
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agreed |
Southpawkicker |
May-10-07 12:18 AM |
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wrong spot -- it's late |
GenDem |
May-09-07 11:19 PM |
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i figured there'd be cricketts in this one |
AZDemDist6 |
May-10-07 12:07 AM |
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chirp chirp! |
KitchenWitch |
May-10-07 12:08 AM |
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Be careful what you wish for! |
Nicole |
May-10-07 12:42 AM |
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Wow! I read that thread. |
GoneOffShore |
May-09-07 10:55 PM |
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Yes there is contentiousness there |
Southpawkicker |
May-09-07 10:56 PM |
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That one WAS a little GD like |
KitchenWitch |
May-09-07 11:10 PM |
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Thanks SPK for this |
KitchenWitch |
May-09-07 11:08 PM |
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The only one I ever heard of was Scientolgy's - Narconon |
GenDem |
May-09-07 11:21 PM |
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Interestingly One Of Their Treatment Programs |
Southpawkicker |
May-09-07 11:31 PM |
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Here is a site that was PM'd to me by someone... |
Southpawkicker |
May-09-07 11:35 PM |
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yeah, but the founder ended up in AA for a couple months before she |
AZDemDist6 |
May-10-07 12:03 AM |
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okay |
Southpawkicker |
May-10-07 12:11 AM |
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you darling? not a darned thing |
AZDemDist6 |
May-10-07 12:13 AM |
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Me too, babe, me too |
KitchenWitch |
May-10-07 12:14 AM |
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awwwww |
AZDemDist6 |
May-10-07 12:20 AM |
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I am, finally. |
KitchenWitch |
May-10-07 12:21 AM |
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i'd suggest lots of sunshine but |
AZDemDist6 |
May-10-07 12:25 AM |
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We are planning a beach outing this weekend. |
KitchenWitch |
May-10-07 12:26 AM |
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They should have come rushing right in! n/t |
Southpawkicker |
May-10-07 12:21 AM |
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One would think |
KitchenWitch |
May-10-07 12:22 AM |
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White knuckling |
TrogL |
May-10-07 12:41 AM |
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Detox |
TrogL |
May-10-07 12:41 AM |
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Changing brands. |
KitchenWitch |
May-10-07 12:42 AM |
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drinking beer only |
Southpawkicker |
May-14-07 12:01 AM |
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Funny farm |
TrogL |
May-10-07 12:42 AM |
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Religion |
KitchenWitch |
May-10-07 12:42 AM |
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incarceration |
TrogL |
May-10-07 12:42 AM |
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mental institutions |
Southpawkicker |
May-14-07 12:02 AM |
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death and/or dismemberment |
TrogL |
May-10-07 12:43 AM |
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always eating before drinking |
Southpawkicker |
May-14-07 12:02 AM |
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wet brain |
TrogL |
May-10-07 12:43 AM |
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Science-based psychotherapy, including groups and/or medications as needed |
Lilith Velkor |
May-13-07 11:31 PM |
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But you didn't answer the question |
RetroLounge |
May-13-07 11:35 PM |
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retro, Lilith isn't an alcoholic |
AZDemDist6 |
May-13-07 11:39 PM |
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huh? |
Southpawkicker |
May-13-07 11:47 PM |
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she said repeatedly in the other thread the 12 step nazis forced her to AA |
AZDemDist6 |
May-13-07 11:50 PM |
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oh, okay |
Southpawkicker |
May-13-07 11:57 PM |
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the "12 Steppers" worked in the Mental Health program she was attending |
AZDemDist6 |
May-14-07 12:09 AM |
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damn 12 steppers anyway |
Southpawkicker |
May-14-07 12:12 AM |
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that was her whole point. |
AZDemDist6 |
May-14-07 12:15 AM |
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ah yes |
Southpawkicker |
May-14-07 12:46 AM |
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" the 12 step nazis forced her to AA" |
RetroLounge |
May-14-07 08:03 AM |
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I listed many alternatives |
Lilith Velkor |
May-14-07 01:02 AM |
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wow, no one ever forced me to go to aa meetings |
Southpawkicker |
May-13-07 11:43 PM |
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So a 'suggestion' is really an offer you can't refuse |
Lilith Velkor |
May-14-07 12:54 AM |
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My Mileage May Vary |
Southpawkicker |
May-15-07 09:55 PM |
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I don't like the insistence on powerlessness. |
Perragrande |
May-14-07 02:31 AM |
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People in meetings have that attitude, too |
Lilith Velkor |
May-14-07 08:42 AM |
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Hmmm, I think the term dry drunk |
Southpawkicker |
May-15-07 10:02 PM |
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When your ass has been kicked |
Southpawkicker |
May-15-07 09:59 PM |
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My mom attended a non-12-step-support group. |
flamingyouth |
May-14-07 01:22 AM |
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wow, thanks for telling us about that FY |
AZDemDist6 |
May-14-07 01:39 AM |
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Was it Women For Sobriety (WFS)? |
KitchenWitch |
May-14-07 11:44 AM |
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That sounds like it. |
flamingyouth |
May-14-07 12:03 PM |
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Good for her, I am so glad she found help! |
KitchenWitch |
May-14-07 12:04 PM |
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I'm addicted to 12-step programs |
leftofthedial |
May-14-07 01:38 AM |
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Standing on your head in a corner, and whistling "Dixie". |
SeattleGirl |
May-14-07 02:35 AM |
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SMART |
GreenPartyVoter |
May-14-07 08:17 AM |
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I think some people are confused |
no name no slogan |
May-14-07 08:47 AM |
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excellent post no name! I was bemoaning the state of our Mental Health |
AZDemDist6 |
May-14-07 10:50 AM |
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That's EXACTLY the problem-- the Mental Heath system!!! |
no name no slogan |
May-14-07 12:31 PM |
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The mental health system(s) have a lot of problems |
Southpawkicker |
May-15-07 10:05 PM |
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Cold turkey |
skygazer |
May-14-07 11:42 AM |
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honestly, I'd love to see a real study as well. |
AZDemDist6 |
May-14-07 04:53 PM |
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Stepping Down |
Taverner |
May-14-07 11:50 AM |
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I tried to join Paranoids Anonymous ..... |
kwassa |
May-14-07 03:00 PM |
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Marijuana. |
ellisonz |
May-14-07 05:40 PM |
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man i would have loved it if marijuana had worked for me! |
Southpawkicker |
May-14-07 10:47 PM |
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It's good that AA has worked for you... |
ellisonz |
May-14-07 11:33 PM |
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