| 65. i'm not sure i really wanna know what's wrong with me. |
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so, i'll take the 'nice guy' thing.
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| -Women tell guys the truth don't call them nice. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Feb-22-07 09:34 AM |
#0 |
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Maybe she was being honest. |
Buzz Clik |
Feb-22-07 09:40 AM |
#1 |
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Would it accomplish anything if she said you are "too boring", or "too dumb" or |
SharonAnn |
Feb-22-07 09:59 AM |
#10 |
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My husband told me that all the ladies |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Feb-22-07 09:40 AM |
#2 |
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Is he a nice guy? |
Mika |
Feb-22-07 09:42 AM |
#4 |
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No, but niceness is a NECESSARY but not SUFFICIENT condition |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Feb-22-07 09:46 AM |
#7 |
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Ok. Agreed. But, did you tell dates that they're boring or too narrow for you? |
Mika |
Feb-22-07 09:51 AM |
#9 |
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No, I just said that there was no chemistry |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Feb-22-07 10:38 AM |
#18 |
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Absolutely nothing wrong with being a nice guy |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Feb-22-07 08:17 PM |
#69 |
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Sometimes there's nothing specific |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Feb-22-07 09:40 AM |
#3 |
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Good advice. |
Mika |
Feb-22-07 09:45 AM |
#6 |
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I second that. Being called nice with no other input is particularly emasculating. n/t |
poverlay |
Feb-22-07 09:42 AM |
#5 |
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If one can't take the heat, then get outta the kitchen. |
Mika |
Feb-22-07 09:48 AM |
#8 |
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If the success rate of some assholes I know is any indication |
Bassic |
Feb-23-07 07:05 AM |
#85 |
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What the heck is this? |
Idealist Hippie |
Feb-22-07 10:09 AM |
#11 |
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I never said anything like that. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Feb-22-07 10:54 AM |
#19 |
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Sorry -- I was responding to "Poverlay", Post #5 -- |
Idealist Hippie |
Feb-22-07 11:07 AM |
#21 |
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I didn't say not getting a second date was emasculating, I said that being labeled "nice" as a |
poverlay |
Feb-22-07 11:27 AM |
#22 |
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Interesting |
lukasahero |
Feb-22-07 11:49 AM |
#25 |
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I really don't thing manly and nice are mutually exclusive. All I have to do to disprove that is to |
poverlay |
Feb-22-07 12:11 PM |
#28 |
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"Most attributes considered "manly" do not fall into the "nice" category" |
lukasahero |
Feb-22-07 12:20 PM |
#29 |
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Good point |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Feb-22-07 12:56 PM |
#30 |
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Yes. |
Radical Activist |
Feb-22-07 05:49 PM |
#55 |
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I like this thread |
rockymountaindem |
Feb-22-07 08:20 PM |
#70 |
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I have broken up with guys before |
XemaSab |
Feb-24-07 12:07 AM |
#175 |
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A lot of immature women (and men) will seem to go for the person |
smirkymonkey |
Feb-25-07 07:33 PM |
#187 |
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I think that there's another interpretation |
Orrex |
Feb-22-07 01:01 PM |
#31 |
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I Call It the "Inaudible 'But...'" |
Crisco |
Feb-23-07 10:50 AM |
#115 |
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Exactly. |
bushwentawol |
Feb-23-07 12:03 PM |
#134 |
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Very perceptive n./t |
rockymountaindem |
Feb-22-07 07:40 PM |
#67 |
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From my experience, it doesn't necessarily come off as THE reason |
Bassic |
Feb-23-07 07:09 AM |
#86 |
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Lukasahero nailed it |
Patiod |
Feb-23-07 08:22 AM |
#90 |
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Aw (not what you think) |
lukasahero |
Feb-23-07 08:26 AM |
#91 |
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Least painful breakup ever |
Patiod |
Feb-23-07 09:24 AM |
#102 |
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Right on! |
raccoon |
Feb-23-07 08:46 AM |
#97 |
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Gee - I guess the next time I go on a date and I find that there is |
smirkymonkey |
Feb-25-07 07:25 PM |
#186 |
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It's not either/or -- "interesting" is another layer needed, on top of "nice." |
Idealist Hippie |
Feb-22-07 11:54 AM |
#26 |
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Agreed. n/t |
poverlay |
Feb-22-07 12:08 PM |
#27 |
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So maybe a woman should use another adjective instead of "nice?" |
raccoon |
Feb-23-07 08:44 AM |
#96 |
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this sure explains a lot, doesn't it? |
freeplessinseattle |
Feb-22-07 11:40 AM |
#23 |
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I'm sorry if you thought I was calling this a feminist term. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Feb-22-07 01:39 PM |
#32 |
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Singular: Woman; Plural: Women |
PelosiFan |
Feb-23-07 01:44 PM |
#152 |
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Okay, I'll be honest with you. |
SmokingJacket |
Feb-22-07 10:10 AM |
#12 |
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Hmmm no response |
sandnsea |
Feb-22-07 03:59 PM |
#47 |
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They would be asking themselves, "Who are you? What makes you tick?" |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Feb-23-07 05:55 PM |
#164 |
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DING DING DING!! |
lildreamer316 |
Feb-22-07 04:00 PM |
#48 |
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Best advice on this thread. Hope OP is listening, because your post says it all. |
patricia92243 |
Feb-22-07 06:28 PM |
#62 |
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Indeed |
WilliamPitt |
Feb-23-07 08:18 AM |
#89 |
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I agree! |
latebloomer |
Feb-24-07 06:52 PM |
#182 |
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I had a woman in my life... |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Feb-22-07 10:14 AM |
#13 |
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Not exactly on topic, but I like the "Sheisskopf" part of your name |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Feb-22-07 10:26 AM |
#15 |
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Women who go for "bad boys" are basically immature |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Feb-22-07 10:56 AM |
#20 |
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Exactly! Immature people of BOTH sexes go for the wrong things. |
redqueen |
Feb-22-07 03:50 PM |
#41 |
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I'm afraid in young males, the gonads speak with a unique eloquence. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Feb-23-07 06:00 PM |
#165 |
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After reading this |
Radical Activist |
Feb-22-07 05:53 PM |
#56 |
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Sounds like your friend and some of these other women you've known |
raccoon |
Feb-23-07 08:56 AM |
#99 |
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If the roles were reversed would you be able to tell her the specifics? |
TlalocW |
Feb-22-07 10:23 AM |
#14 |
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It sounds like she should have said, "You need therapy." |
IanDB1 |
Feb-22-07 10:28 AM |
#16 |
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I think maybe you're being too harsh on yourself. |
Zenlitened |
Feb-22-07 10:35 AM |
#17 |
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Thanks for the input ladies. |
SIMPLYB1980 |
Feb-22-07 11:44 AM |
#24 |
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your expectations exceeded the situation you were in |
SemperEadem |
Feb-22-07 03:26 PM |
#33 |
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you put your heart on the line with a first date?? |
wildhorses |
Feb-22-07 03:31 PM |
#34 |
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someone can't be ugly and nice? |
liontamer |
Feb-22-07 03:40 PM |
#35 |
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let me reframe it for you |
idgiehkt |
Feb-22-07 03:40 PM |
#36 |
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That's a great post. |
Radical Activist |
Feb-22-07 06:31 PM |
#64 |
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Sometimes it is just as simple as "chemistry" |
Zookeeper |
Feb-22-07 03:41 PM |
#37 |
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Nice: from old middle english meaning "foolish, stupid, ignorant". Throw this word out. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-22-07 03:42 PM |
#38 |
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Geezaloo... |
redqueen |
Feb-22-07 03:53 PM |
#43 |
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Oh, I realize people aren't thinking of it in terms of the old meaning. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-22-07 03:59 PM |
#46 |
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I like it cause it covers a lot of ground quckly. |
redqueen |
Feb-22-07 05:13 PM |
#51 |
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I would say it's used primarily |
SemperEadem |
Feb-22-07 06:21 PM |
#60 |
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No, it's used primarily by lazy, imprecise people who don't want to be bothered. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-22-07 09:44 PM |
#76 |
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I find it stunning... |
VelmaD |
Feb-23-07 09:34 AM |
#104 |
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Rabrrrrrr, you are so nice. I just LURVE you. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-23-07 10:42 AM |
#113 |
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I wuv you, too wuvvy scwumpy buttons! |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-23-07 10:48 AM |
#114 |
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Schmoopie. |
Midlodemocrat |
Feb-23-07 10:53 AM |
#116 |
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I agree with Rabrrrrrr 100%, totally and completely on this. I never thought this day would come! |
mainegreen |
Feb-22-07 04:04 PM |
#49 |
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I'm with Rabrrrrrr on this one. |
Chan790 |
Feb-22-07 08:01 PM |
#68 |
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When did you suddenly sprout that attitude? |
lwfern |
Feb-23-07 02:44 PM |
#155 |
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OMG! You caught me being inconsistent and imperfect. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-23-07 11:37 PM |
#172 |
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Took most of a day - didn't even have time to pee. |
lwfern |
Feb-23-07 11:55 PM |
#174 |
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That's nice |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Feb-23-07 04:38 PM |
#161 |
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Your feelings... |
Madspirit |
Feb-22-07 03:44 PM |
#39 |
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The wisest words yet, I suspect. A lot of things sensitive young people |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Feb-23-07 06:18 PM |
#166 |
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There are too many blank spaces in this story |
Ptah |
Feb-22-07 03:45 PM |
#40 |
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You missed an apostrophe |
ForrestGump |
Feb-22-07 03:52 PM |
#42 |
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wow... what an interesting use of time. |
SemperEadem |
Feb-22-07 06:22 PM |
#61 |
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To each our own. |
Ptah |
Feb-22-07 06:30 PM |
#63 |
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Avoiding controversial topics |
Patiod |
Feb-23-07 08:37 AM |
#94 |
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As St Augustine of Hippo put it, "Love God and do what you like"! |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Feb-23-07 06:21 PM |
#167 |
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What if "nice" is the truth? |
redqueen |
Feb-22-07 03:56 PM |
#44 |
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Have told the truth |
Whoa_Nelly |
Feb-22-07 03:56 PM |
#45 |
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I had a similar experience. Dated a guy and told him, |
raccoon |
Feb-23-07 09:07 AM |
#100 |
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What's wrong with being called nice? |
Nicole |
Feb-22-07 04:11 PM |
#50 |
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Several girlfriends were talking and someon said something like: 'I bet none |
Maraya1969 |
Feb-22-07 05:24 PM |
#52 |
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But all women aren't alike |
treestar |
Feb-22-07 05:29 PM |
#53 |
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the old "you're a nice guy...but..." I sympathize. |
WI_DEM |
Feb-22-07 05:31 PM |
#54 |
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There are some lines |
Radical Activist |
Feb-22-07 05:57 PM |
#57 |
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If a woman told a guy he was ugly, boring, offensive, etc., a lot |
raccoon |
Feb-23-07 09:12 AM |
#101 |
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Yep. She'd be called a bitch, a c - - t, and any other name |
Bunny |
Feb-23-07 10:01 AM |
#109 |
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Yeah, |
Radical Activist |
Feb-23-07 10:03 AM |
#110 |
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Maybe she thought you were nice. |
Katherine Brengle |
Feb-22-07 06:07 PM |
#58 |
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Are You A Nice Guy? |
Southpawkicker |
Feb-22-07 06:07 PM |
#59 |
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i'm not sure i really wanna know what's wrong with me. |
KG |
Feb-22-07 07:01 PM |
#65 |
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You're putting your heart on the line on the first date? |
MrSlayer |
Feb-22-07 07:04 PM |
#66 |
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... |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Feb-22-07 08:24 PM |
#71 |
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You would really prefer a woman to tell you that you were ugly? |
sjbech |
Feb-22-07 08:29 PM |
#72 |
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It's a fact |
XemaSab |
Feb-24-07 12:45 AM |
#176 |
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Hey, you know what? |
Dangerously Amused |
Feb-22-07 08:32 PM |
#73 |
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There've been some very interesting insights thrown about in this thread, |
ForrestGump |
Feb-22-07 08:52 PM |
#74 |
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I both hate it, and like it when |
jasonc |
Feb-23-07 11:35 AM |
#127 |
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Nice. |
smirkymonkey |
Feb-25-07 08:07 PM |
#189 |
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Trust me, man, sometimes a euphamism/half-truth is best. |
BlueIris |
Feb-22-07 08:53 PM |
#75 |
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She might not even know herself |
XemaSab |
Feb-24-07 12:47 AM |
#177 |
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ewwwww. eww eww eww. The deconstruction. |
lwfern |
Feb-23-07 12:47 AM |
#77 |
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BRAVA! *thunderous applause* |
UncleSepp |
Feb-23-07 04:45 AM |
#82 |
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"Tell me what I need to do to get laid" |
lwfern |
Feb-23-07 09:46 AM |
#107 |
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I used to think men had it hard |
pokerfan |
Feb-23-07 05:57 AM |
#83 |
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that's 'je ne sais quoi" |
SemperEadem |
Feb-23-07 03:15 PM |
#156 |
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endless apologies! |
pokerfan |
Feb-23-07 04:32 PM |
#160 |
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Oh, no. If other things are right, being pursued is brilliant, as far as |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Feb-23-07 06:33 PM |
#168 |
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You are absolutely correct on every point! |
PelosiFan |
Feb-23-07 08:35 AM |
#93 |
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Bravo. Well said. |
smirkymonkey |
Feb-25-07 08:04 PM |
#188 |
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You would rather she called you |
u4ic |
Feb-23-07 12:59 AM |
#78 |
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It sounds like you two just weren't compatible |
Pushed To The Left |
Feb-23-07 01:15 AM |
#79 |
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Hey there! |
XemaSab |
Feb-24-07 12:55 AM |
#178 |
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Hi Xemasab! |
Pushed To The Left |
Feb-24-07 04:35 PM |
#180 |
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Well yeah |
XemaSab |
Feb-25-07 01:52 AM |
#183 |
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Sometimes the most attractive thing about a man |
hickman |
Feb-23-07 01:44 AM |
#80 |
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It takes two, dude |
pokerfan |
Feb-23-07 02:50 AM |
#81 |
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Very funny post. And to the point. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Feb-23-07 06:38 PM |
#169 |
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Boy do I know where you're coming from. |
Bassic |
Feb-23-07 07:02 AM |
#84 |
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why are you encouraging women to be rude and obnoxious? |
lionesspriyanka |
Feb-23-07 07:23 AM |
#87 |
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well according to post #76... |
VelmaD |
Feb-23-07 09:39 AM |
#106 |
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No. Read #76 more carefully. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-23-07 11:04 AM |
#119 |
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I think you're missing my point |
VelmaD |
Feb-23-07 11:09 AM |
#121 |
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Interesting that "nice" is forbidden, yet "bitch" is A-ok. |
smirkymonkey |
Feb-25-07 08:13 PM |
#190 |
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"Men tend to rally around and support one another that way in times of need." |
lukasahero |
Feb-23-07 11:09 AM |
#122 |
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i remember a thread i created here that got a huge uproar |
lionesspriyanka |
Feb-23-07 11:46 AM |
#129 |
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Modesty is not something you suffer from, is it? |
Bunny |
Feb-23-07 11:53 AM |
#131 |
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proving my point that no matter what you say someone will call you a bitch |
lionesspriyanka |
Feb-23-07 11:58 AM |
#133 |
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Pardon me dear but I did NOT call you a bitch - I do not do that. Ever. |
Bunny |
Feb-23-07 12:05 PM |
#135 |
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actually this is what i said |
lionesspriyanka |
Feb-23-07 12:08 PM |
#138 |
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That may have been what you said in that other thread, I did not read that one. |
Bunny |
Feb-23-07 12:15 PM |
#140 |
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i was replying to velma saying that an uproar can be caused if you are honest |
lionesspriyanka |
Feb-23-07 12:16 PM |
#141 |
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Oh I think you do care, or you wouldn't be responding. |
Bunny |
Feb-23-07 12:35 PM |
#146 |
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yup i am conceited and lacking in modesty. |
lionesspriyanka |
Feb-23-07 12:39 PM |
#148 |
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My happiness, or lack thereof, is of no consequence to this discussion. |
Bunny |
Feb-23-07 12:41 PM |
#149 |
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That's some statement. |
Karenca |
Feb-23-07 12:22 PM |
#142 |
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thats not exactly what i said. |
lionesspriyanka |
Feb-23-07 12:25 PM |
#144 |
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Did you read "Self-Made Man'? |
Karenca |
Feb-23-07 12:33 PM |
#145 |
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i was a both a psychology and a sociology major so i am aware of the reasons why |
lionesspriyanka |
Feb-23-07 12:38 PM |
#147 |
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.. or a lesbian. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Feb-23-07 06:38 PM |
#170 |
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Patience, grasshopper |
NewJeffCT |
Feb-23-07 08:13 AM |
#88 |
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"I love the ladies" !! |
PelosiFan |
Feb-23-07 08:30 AM |
#92 |
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Ooooo! A lady! |
Blue-Jay |
Feb-23-07 08:43 AM |
#95 |
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... |
PelosiFan |
Feb-23-07 08:54 AM |
#98 |
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It's not all about you. |
Gormy Cuss |
Feb-23-07 09:34 AM |
#103 |
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My 2 cents |
Connonym |
Feb-23-07 09:38 AM |
#105 |
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I always got "you're a nice guy, but..." for the same reason... |
Zavulon |
Feb-23-07 09:51 AM |
#108 |
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You Know, That's a Great Point |
Crisco |
Feb-23-07 10:59 AM |
#118 |
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My father always said |
Zavulon |
Feb-23-07 12:08 PM |
#137 |
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well this falls into the pattern of old stereotypes ..... |
kwassa |
Feb-23-07 01:05 PM |
#151 |
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No doubt. |
Zavulon |
Feb-23-07 02:00 PM |
#153 |
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"Stereotypes are never 100% accurate"? |
lukasahero |
Feb-23-07 02:10 PM |
#154 |
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We're all the products of our experiences, and |
Zavulon |
Feb-23-07 03:44 PM |
#158 |
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We Are in the Age of Niche Marketing |
Crisco |
Feb-23-07 04:11 PM |
#159 |
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You've hit upon the patronizing aspect of "nice" - thanks! |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-23-07 11:07 AM |
#120 |
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www.dictionary.com |
lukasahero |
Feb-23-07 11:16 AM |
#123 |
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I wish I could recommend just this post |
VelmaD |
Feb-23-07 11:18 AM |
#124 |
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And yet |
Radical Activist |
Feb-23-07 11:23 AM |
#125 |
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Or perhaps you are only perceiving it to mean that |
lukasahero |
Feb-23-07 11:42 AM |
#128 |
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As it is with all words |
Radical Activist |
Feb-23-07 12:08 PM |
#136 |
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I'd recommend it as well. |
lwfern |
Feb-23-07 11:29 AM |
#126 |
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It's still a lazy, empty word. Just as lazy as using "bitch" is. |
Rabrrrrrr |
Feb-23-07 12:24 PM |
#143 |
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Well, perhaps not children. |
Zavulon |
Feb-23-07 12:09 PM |
#139 |
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What word(s) would you suggest? Never mind, you answered below. nt |
raccoon |
Feb-24-07 11:18 AM |
#179 |
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You Are Waaaayyyy Over-Analyzing Things |
Yavin4 |
Feb-23-07 10:18 AM |
#111 |
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That's what I was thinking, and this is a quite an involved discussion. |
marzipanni |
Feb-25-07 03:33 AM |
#184 |
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"I do expect honesty after I put my heart on the line" - On Your First Date? |
Crisco |
Feb-23-07 10:32 AM |
#112 |
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You went on one date |
skygazer |
Feb-23-07 10:56 AM |
#117 |
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agreed. |
lionesspriyanka |
Feb-23-07 11:49 AM |
#130 |
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I have to reply to this |
jasonc |
Feb-23-07 11:56 AM |
#132 |
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Work on the expunging the idea from your head that you have work to do |
Strawman |
Feb-23-07 01:03 PM |
#150 |
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Just sounds like you did not click. |
Fran Kubelik |
Feb-23-07 03:20 PM |
#157 |
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Conversations. :) |
lwfern |
Feb-23-07 04:59 PM |
#162 |
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Nice says it all |
gravity |
Feb-23-07 05:20 PM |
#163 |
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Bro...you need to check out "No More Mr. Nice Guy" - I don't think |
bullwinkle428 |
Feb-23-07 11:27 PM |
#171 |
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Interesting |
XemaSab |
Feb-23-07 11:42 PM |
#173 |
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On further reflection, I think the blandishments I and others expressed |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Feb-24-07 04:54 PM |
#181 |
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Simplyb1980, a few words. |
outofbounds |
Feb-25-07 08:14 AM |
#185 |
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Stop caring so much about being polite/nice/whatever |
newsdude |
Feb-25-07 09:43 PM |
#191 |
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This thread is still going? |
GirlinContempt |
Feb-25-07 09:44 PM |
#192 |