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Tue Jan-30-07 05:31 PM
Response to Reply #70 |
| -Until animals can give informed consent, all sports involving them should be banned. |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 01:00 PM |
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Even monkey knife fights? |
Blue-Jay |
Jan-30-07 01:04 PM |
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BRAK. |
Shakespeare |
Jan-30-07 01:10 PM |
#5 |
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well obviously not monkey knife fights |
northzax |
Jan-30-07 01:11 PM |
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Eeep! Ack! Ook! |
TheBaldyMan |
Jan-30-07 06:49 PM |
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Do you include eating them in that? Or how about building houses where they live? |
jobycom |
Jan-30-07 01:05 PM |
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Whoever wants to eat one has to catch it and kill it and the animal must be given a fighting chance. |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 01:18 PM |
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So we can only eat monkeys that we kill in a knife fight? |
seemunkee |
Jan-30-07 01:57 PM |
#25 |
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Knife, gun, grenade launcher, whatever. |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 05:01 PM |
#78 |
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What if we just want to run nude bur don't want to kill or eat an animal? |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-07 08:34 AM |
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and when they can give consent |
sniffa |
Jan-30-07 01:06 PM |
#3 |
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Animals can already consent to that |
Orrex |
Jan-31-07 09:44 AM |
#106 |
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same thing for pet ownership, right? |
northzax |
Jan-30-07 01:08 PM |
#4 |
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same |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 01:12 PM |
#7 |
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these guys are whacked |
pokerfan |
Jan-30-07 01:25 PM |
#11 |
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In the 12 step agenda... |
Solon |
Jan-30-07 01:58 PM |
#26 |
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Slick interpretation by a bunch of cat breeders, eh? |
flvegan |
Jan-30-07 05:40 PM |
#89 |
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If this isn't just humor or flame-bait, |
Kali |
Jan-30-07 01:20 PM |
#9 |
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have so |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 01:23 PM |
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And you don't think by virtue of their very behavior they consent? |
Kali |
Jan-30-07 01:29 PM |
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And some guy on your back is beating the crap out of you with a whip. |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 01:32 PM |
#15 |
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Not any of the race type horses I have been on. |
Kali |
Jan-30-07 01:38 PM |
#18 |
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So tonight when I get home I should just toss Abbott & Evita out on the streets |
LynneSin |
Jan-30-07 01:27 PM |
#12 |
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No. Give them the option. |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 01:30 PM |
#14 |
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Yes but how are they going to tell me |
LynneSin |
Jan-30-07 01:33 PM |
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Leave the door open. You'll find out if they want to stay or not. |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 01:36 PM |
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So then, in horse racing, just open the gate and see if the horses run? |
jobycom |
Jan-30-07 01:42 PM |
#19 |
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yes |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 01:43 PM |
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Well, that's what happens, so your conditions are already met. |
jobycom |
Jan-30-07 02:04 PM |
#27 |
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Do the horses whip themselves? |
flvegan |
Jan-30-07 02:07 PM |
#30 |
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Good point. |
jobycom |
Jan-30-07 02:32 PM |
#32 |
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To me, it's in the training. |
flvegan |
Jan-30-07 02:38 PM |
#34 |
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The problem is that they are bred for racing |
LeftyMom |
Jan-30-07 02:48 PM |
#36 |
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Judging by the popularity if it, it's a good thing puritanical thoughts about what is |
Kali |
Jan-30-07 04:44 PM |
#74 |
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Life would be a lot better |
flvegan |
Jan-30-07 04:57 PM |
#76 |
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Back seat? Aren't we traveling on foot? |
Kali |
Jan-30-07 05:05 PM |
#79 |
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It's a rikshaw! |
flvegan |
Jan-30-07 05:18 PM |
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.... |
Kali |
Jan-30-07 05:24 PM |
#83 |
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How long do you need to leave the door open? |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-07 08:35 AM |
#103 |
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Solution- |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 10:12 AM |
#108 |
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Some dogs would need a door big enough for a person to gain entry. |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-07 10:15 AM |
#109 |
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They do make XLarge pet doors for dogs. |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 10:29 AM |
#116 |
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I was thinking of burglars - not the family who lives in the house. |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-07 12:20 PM |
#128 |
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I was talking about burglars! |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 12:33 PM |
#132 |
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But if you seal it off completely - which i understand you can do - then |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-07 12:44 PM |
#135 |
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I've answered all your questions, |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 12:53 PM |
#137 |
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LOL! The point of the seal is to make the dog door inaccessible at |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-07 12:59 PM |
#138 |
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OK, let's try this. |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 01:22 PM |
#139 |
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I got that. I understand that. |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-07 01:34 PM |
#140 |
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Actually, the OP is about the animals giving consent |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 01:57 PM |
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If a dog can push the flap, why couldn't a person? |
uppityperson |
Jan-31-07 04:30 PM |
#152 |
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That would be a good question to |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 09:35 PM |
#155 |
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But when is that option given? It is possible that very few people could have pets |
MJDuncan1982 |
Jan-30-07 02:10 PM |
#31 |
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Hero |
Madspirit |
Jan-30-07 01:46 PM |
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you cant have my cat. thats all i have to say about this matter. |
lionesspriyanka |
Jan-30-07 01:50 PM |
#22 |
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I don't want your, or any cat. |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 01:51 PM |
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What's wrong with her cats? You saying her cats aren't good enough for you!? |
jobycom |
Jan-30-07 02:05 PM |
#28 |
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animals in sports does seem, |
stuntcat |
Jan-30-07 01:55 PM |
#24 |
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No way am I giving up hamster racing |
billyskank |
Jan-30-07 02:06 PM |
#29 |
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how about Gerbil Tunnelling |
northzax |
Jan-30-07 02:36 PM |
#33 |
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Oh yeah, that sport is a mug's game. |
billyskank |
Jan-30-07 03:08 PM |
#50 |
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Why should your views on this be forced on the rest of us? |
Deep13 |
Jan-30-07 02:39 PM |
#35 |
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Why? |
Madspirit |
Jan-30-07 02:48 PM |
#37 |
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You are equating animals with abused children? |
Deep13 |
Jan-30-07 02:56 PM |
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There's nothing fucked up about saying that abused creatures of any sort ought to be protected. |
LeftyMom |
Jan-30-07 02:57 PM |
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We are one variety of animal that owns other varieties. |
Deep13 |
Jan-30-07 03:00 PM |
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We used to own other people too. Many humans think they own thier children and wives. |
LeftyMom |
Jan-30-07 03:05 PM |
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Provincial? Go ask a 3rd world citizen what he or she thinks of animal rights. |
Deep13 |
Jan-30-07 03:16 PM |
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You don't think people in the third world care about animal rights and welfare? |
LeftyMom |
Jan-30-07 03:39 PM |
#63 |
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There are real practical reasons to eschew meat. |
Deep13 |
Jan-30-07 03:45 PM |
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Jan-30-07 03:08 PM |
#49 |
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If you want to say screw you, you can be plain. |
Deep13 |
Jan-30-07 03:19 PM |
#54 |
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What's with all the abortion/fetus talk? |
Susang |
Jan-30-07 03:50 PM |
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I was drawing an analogy between one set of gut-feeling value judgments... |
Deep13 |
Jan-30-07 03:51 PM |
#68 |
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You're getting one anyway |
Susang |
Jan-30-07 04:14 PM |
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Of course they are not the same. It's an analogy. |
Deep13 |
Jan-31-07 08:21 AM |
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I see one of your hobbies is shooting. |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 12:22 PM |
#129 |
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I won't eat anything that has a face! |
kdsusa |
Jan-30-07 04:21 PM |
#73 |
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...and to think |
Madspirit |
Jan-30-07 03:10 PM |
#51 |
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I accept your surrender. Thanks. |
Deep13 |
Jan-30-07 03:20 PM |
#56 |
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Or- it's saying |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 10:10 AM |
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The equation was between abused aniumals and abused children. |
achtung_circus |
Jan-30-07 05:00 PM |
#77 |
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No, what's fucked up |
flvegan |
Jan-30-07 05:21 PM |
#82 |
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Opinion noted. nt |
Deep13 |
Jan-31-07 08:28 AM |
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In the same vein, why should those of horse racing advocates be forced on horses? |
LeftyMom |
Jan-30-07 02:50 PM |
#38 |
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Most people do not accept that animals have human rights. |
Deep13 |
Jan-30-07 02:58 PM |
#42 |
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Nonsense. |
LeftyMom |
Jan-30-07 03:03 PM |
#46 |
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Why is suffering the standard? |
Deep13 |
Jan-30-07 03:13 PM |
#52 |
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Because the two problems are interconnected. |
LeftyMom |
Jan-30-07 03:27 PM |
#60 |
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Well, I think a plain distinction can be made. |
Deep13 |
Jan-30-07 03:30 PM |
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Jan-30-07 03:21 PM |
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Disagreeing with PETA doesn't make me a freeper. |
Deep13 |
Jan-30-07 03:28 PM |
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Amazing |
Susang |
Jan-30-07 03:24 PM |
#58 |
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Progressive simply is tending towards progress. |
Deep13 |
Jan-30-07 04:09 PM |
#69 |
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Bullshit |
Susang |
Jan-30-07 04:45 PM |
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My information is from a side note in this book. |
Deep13 |
Jan-31-07 08:20 AM |
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the opposing view is no more rational. |
idgiehkt |
Jan-30-07 04:14 PM |
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Since homo sapiens is the only species to develop or acknowledge rights, it |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-07 10:16 AM |
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I'm not sure how one develops rights |
idgiehkt |
Jan-31-07 04:11 PM |
#147 |
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I have signed and witnessed consent forms from |
MoseyWalker |
Jan-30-07 02:56 PM |
#40 |
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But are they notarized? |
MonkeyFunk |
Jan-30-07 03:00 PM |
#43 |
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oops |
MoseyWalker |
Jan-30-07 03:02 PM |
#45 |
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There should be consent forms for stupid flamebait threads. |
slj0101 |
Jan-30-07 03:06 PM |
#48 |
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... |
Oeditpus Rex |
Jan-30-07 03:19 PM |
#55 |
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.... |
lionesspriyanka |
Jan-30-07 03:25 PM |
#59 |
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Amen. |
deadparrot |
Jan-30-07 05:26 PM |
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Your thoughtful response is sincerely appreciated and will be given all due consideration. |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 05:33 PM |
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You are such a troublemaker |
BarenakedLady |
Jan-30-07 05:36 PM |
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moi? |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 05:38 PM |
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oui! |
BarenakedLady |
Jan-30-07 05:45 PM |
#91 |
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non, jamais |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 05:49 PM |
#92 |
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toujours! |
BarenakedLady |
Jan-30-07 05:53 PM |
#93 |
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vous m'avez blessé |
ohiosmith |
Jan-30-07 06:09 PM |
#95 |
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je ne voulais pas te blesser :( |
BarenakedLady |
Jan-30-07 06:47 PM |
#96 |
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je te pardonne le cheri |
ohiosmith |
Jan-31-07 09:37 AM |
#105 |
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merci, mon ami |
BarenakedLady |
Jan-31-07 10:42 AM |
#117 |
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non, merci vous |
ohiosmith |
Jan-31-07 10:46 AM |
#118 |
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pourquoi? |
BarenakedLady |
Jan-31-07 10:50 AM |
#119 |
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Je ne sais pas, je suis confus |
ohiosmith |
Jan-31-07 11:08 AM |
#124 |
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moi aussi |
BarenakedLady |
Jan-31-07 04:05 PM |
#144 |
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bienvenue au club |
ohiosmith |
Jan-31-07 04:07 PM |
#145 |
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grille-pain ou un t-shirt? |
BarenakedLady |
Jan-31-07 04:17 PM |
#149 |
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t-shirt. les grille-pain sont seulement pour des lesbiennes |
ohiosmith |
Jan-31-07 04:21 PM |
#150 |
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LOL!!! |
BarenakedLady |
Jan-31-07 04:22 PM |
#151 |
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A number of us are very sad |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 12:28 PM |
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I agree with the Barbaro thing. |
slj0101 |
Jan-31-07 12:36 PM |
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Yep, it's similar to my |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 12:49 PM |
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Btw, |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 02:13 PM |
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Seriously? Even weiner dog races? |
Patiod |
Jan-30-07 03:39 PM |
#64 |
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Patoid...You're Bad! |
Madspirit |
Jan-30-07 04:13 PM |
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Is this wrong? |
pokerfan |
Jan-30-07 05:31 PM |
#85 |
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Perverse and weird |
Madspirit |
Jan-30-07 05:45 PM |
#90 |
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I saw them on Letterman |
pokerfan |
Jan-30-07 05:58 PM |
#94 |
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They make me cry |
Patiod |
Jan-31-07 08:35 AM |
#102 |
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dog racing |
Madspirit |
Jan-31-07 11:22 AM |
#125 |
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But what will the Universities of Florida and Miami do for |
ForrestGump |
Jan-30-07 03:44 PM |
#65 |
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Immediately! Particularly bears and colts. |
KamaAina |
Jan-30-07 05:10 PM |
#80 |
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which I imagine would mean |
MissMillie |
Jan-31-07 10:23 AM |
#112 |
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Does this mean no more kitten juggling? |
redwitch |
Jan-31-07 08:52 AM |
#104 |
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Updated - Operation Cat Freedom at the LynneSin home |
LynneSin |
Jan-31-07 10:18 AM |
#111 |
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LOL ! |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 10:24 AM |
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Options LynneSin, options. No need to toss. If they want to leave allow them. |
ohiosmith |
Jan-31-07 10:28 AM |
#115 |
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But I never gave them the option to move into my place |
LynneSin |
Jan-31-07 01:53 PM |
#141 |
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No you can't take away Cat Juggling! |
Taverner |
Jan-31-07 10:24 AM |
#113 |
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We have a winner in the "I'm more progressive than you" sweepstakes. |
MrsGrumpy |
Jan-31-07 10:28 AM |
#114 |
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Wait - wasn't your Purina Contest Picture of your dog taken in the snow |
LynneSin |
Jan-31-07 11:02 AM |
#120 |
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Her... and she was looking all pitiful remember? |
MrsGrumpy |
Jan-31-07 11:05 AM |
#121 |
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SHE looked gleeful and happy to me |
LynneSin |
Jan-31-07 11:06 AM |
#122 |
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That's because you're a cat person...cat people can't tell what |
MrsGrumpy |
Jan-31-07 11:07 AM |
#123 |
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Seconded. The human thirst for spectacle causes untold misery. |
Coventina |
Jan-31-07 11:43 AM |
#126 |
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Imagine if horses were able to give racing tips on other horses. |
zonkers |
Jan-31-07 11:49 AM |
#127 |
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What about hunting animals? |
ileus |
Jan-31-07 12:24 PM |
#130 |
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Only if it is on equal terms. |
ohiosmith |
Jan-31-07 12:39 PM |
#134 |
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I support the right to arm bears. |
BarenakedLady |
Jan-31-07 04:09 PM |
#146 |
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Now yer talk'n. |
ohiosmith |
Jan-31-07 04:11 PM |
#148 |
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You got that one right! |
Kajsa |
Jan-31-07 04:35 PM |
#154 |
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On the basis of the OP, I agree. eom |
uppityperson |
Jan-31-07 04:32 PM |
#153 |
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