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Sun Jan-28-07 05:12 PM
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| 22. It's always really both scared and fascinated me |
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I read "Helter Skelter" when I was young (too young, probably). I agree with you about Garrison being full of it, about Manson returning to the Cielo house and about Atkins being full of shit. I hope none of them gets out, personally! Ugh.  |
| -Tate/LaBianca murders ... |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 02:22 PM |
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I read Bugliosi's Helter Skelter when I was younger |
RetroLounge |
Jan-28-07 02:24 PM |
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Same here. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 02:33 PM |
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Good for you, Ronny! I met Vince B, a long time ago in L.A. |
GalleryGod |
Jan-28-07 04:42 PM |
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I LOVE Vince B. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 05:43 PM |
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I was watching a little bit of "Valley of the Dolls" |
Sequoia |
Jan-29-07 12:34 PM |
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Bugliosi wrote a great essay on the supreme court selection of the bushidiot |
Kali |
Jan-28-07 07:50 PM |
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I knew it - found the link in my old bookmarks |
Kali |
Jan-28-07 07:51 PM |
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More than just an essay |
NJCher |
Jan-28-07 09:19 PM |
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me too |
Blue_Roses |
Jan-28-07 09:53 PM |
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The case has always |
Texasgal |
Jan-28-07 02:33 PM |
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I think that is why it's so scary. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 02:34 PM |
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He is a freak |
Texasgal |
Jan-28-07 02:51 PM |
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To me, it's always been the single most terrifying murder(s) in US history. |
Shakespeare |
Jan-28-07 02:50 PM |
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I know it's morbid ... |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 03:12 PM |
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Ha! I've always wanted to take one of those. |
Shakespeare |
Jan-28-07 03:17 PM |
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6th grade! No way. |
Sequoia |
Jan-29-07 12:37 PM |
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A bright 12-year-old with a library card is a dangerous thing. |
Shakespeare |
Jan-29-07 01:51 PM |
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But of course, it's you Shakespeare! |
Sequoia |
Jan-29-07 03:13 PM |
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Well, I was... |
Tikki |
Jan-28-07 03:22 PM |
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Wow .... thank you for sharing. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 03:28 PM |
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I was 18 years old |
PlanetBev |
Jan-28-07 03:36 PM |
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Holy cow. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 04:16 PM |
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What!? Sady Mae Gluck? Full of shit ! |
GalleryGod |
Jan-28-07 04:47 PM |
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as she has since said she didn't do. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 05:13 PM |
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People's memories are not a video tape. |
hedgehog |
Jan-28-07 03:38 PM |
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Could be. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 04:27 PM |
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Once reason why I think William did get a lot of sympathy |
PlanetBev |
Jan-28-07 04:46 PM |
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Many people were supposed to be at the house that night. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 05:08 PM |
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That seems to be a particular form of LA "brush with greatness"... |
mitchum |
Jan-30-07 12:21 AM |
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I would think his memory of "that" night would remain sharp... |
MrsGrumpy |
Jan-28-07 05:28 PM |
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My Obsession: The Death of Marilyn Monroe |
GalleryGod |
Jan-28-07 04:45 PM |
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Where is Marilyn's crypt at? |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 05:06 PM |
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I thing its at Pierce Bros/Westwood Memorial park in LA |
carly denise pt deux |
Jan-28-07 05:08 PM |
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Yup. Right in the middle of all those office buildings. |
Shakespeare |
Jan-28-07 05:39 PM |
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It's always really both scared and fascinated me |
flamingyouth |
Jan-28-07 05:12 PM |
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That house (Cielo) was torn down in 1994. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 05:33 PM |
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I drove by it before it was torn down. |
flamingyouth |
Jan-28-07 05:39 PM |
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Manson and his family |
carly denise pt deux |
Jan-28-07 05:13 PM |
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All stories like that fascinate me |
skygazer |
Jan-28-07 05:22 PM |
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That would be an interesting book to read. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 05:30 PM |
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It is interesting |
skygazer |
Jan-28-07 05:36 PM |
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Eva Braun was an idiot. |
Darth_Kitten |
Jan-29-07 10:27 AM |
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Then you might like this |
Patiod |
Jan-29-07 11:12 AM |
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That was spooky. Crawling around...creepy! |
Sequoia |
Jan-29-07 12:46 PM |
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Those murders and the Clutter Murder (In Cold Blood) have frightened |
MrsGrumpy |
Jan-28-07 05:31 PM |
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Another strange connection ... |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 05:39 PM |
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interesting tie re the motorcycles and dune buggies |
NJCher |
Jan-28-07 09:46 PM |
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Wow, wild story |
Patiod |
Jan-29-07 11:16 AM |
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The one that scared me was Ted Bundy |
Patiod |
Jan-29-07 11:14 AM |
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I think it was Trent Reznor... |
fudge stripe cookays |
Jan-28-07 05:34 PM |
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Trent rented the house. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 05:46 PM |
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Good. |
fudge stripe cookays |
Jan-28-07 07:45 PM |
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Born over a decade after the event |
socialdemocrat1981 |
Jan-28-07 06:15 PM |
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I agree with you 100% |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 06:35 PM |
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There are some websites with the crime scene photos. |
edbermac |
Jan-28-07 06:52 PM |
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I've seen them ... |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-28-07 07:20 PM |
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My piano teacher, who has long passed, had a sister who was |
tinfoilinfor2005 |
Jan-28-07 07:11 PM |
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"The Perfect Storm" author had a connection with him, too |
Patiod |
Jan-29-07 11:19 AM |
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And The Sea Will Tell........... |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Jan-30-07 12:33 AM |
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Manson scares the crap out of me. The first time I read "Helter |
SeattleGirl |
Jan-28-07 07:53 PM |
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I agree with you about Diane Downs |
ncabot22 |
Jan-29-07 07:48 PM |
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The murders happened the night after my fourteenth birthday. |
blue neen |
Jan-28-07 08:01 PM |
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Wasn't Doris Day's son the intended target? |
peekaloo |
Jan-28-07 08:07 PM |
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I can't recall if he was the intended target, but yes, he did live in |
SeattleGirl |
Jan-28-07 08:08 PM |
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Thank you. |
peekaloo |
Jan-28-07 08:13 PM |
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I believe he was an intended target. |
slj0101 |
Jan-28-07 08:11 PM |
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Oh, right! Because Manson also fancied himself to be a musician. |
SeattleGirl |
Jan-28-07 08:17 PM |
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I edited with a wiki entry. |
slj0101 |
Jan-28-07 08:18 PM |
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Thanks. |
peekaloo |
Jan-28-07 08:18 PM |
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And Phil Kauffman (the man who stole and burned Gram Parson's body)... |
mitchum |
Jan-29-07 04:41 PM |
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Holy shit! |
peekaloo |
Jan-29-07 09:51 PM |
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Manson wasn't acquainted with just Melcher and Wilson... |
mitchum |
Jan-29-07 10:03 PM |
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apparently...... |
Darth_Kitten |
Jan-29-07 05:54 PM |
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Do you think that William Garrison was involved? Maybe Manson or Tex Watson |
chimpsrsmarter |
Jan-28-07 08:13 PM |
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Dude, you need to lose the obsession. I say this as a friend. |
Redstone |
Jan-28-07 08:21 PM |
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How do you know he considers you a friend? |
fudge stripe cookays |
Jan-28-07 08:46 PM |
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Well, I consinder HIM to be a friend, so why are you stepping into the middle? |
Redstone |
Jan-28-07 10:05 PM |
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Because your tone is insulting, that's why. |
fudge stripe cookays |
Jan-29-07 05:26 AM |
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Well, if he minds, maybe HE will tell me. What's your problem? |
Redstone |
Jan-29-07 04:31 PM |
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I just stated it. |
fudge stripe cookays |
Jan-30-07 05:12 AM |
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Oh no you kids ..... don't fight over little ol' me. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-29-07 10:37 AM |
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I know it sounds freaky. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-29-07 08:43 AM |
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OK. Just checking. |
Redstone |
Jan-29-07 04:32 PM |
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My step-mom was LA County Deputy, and was transfered to the Women's Jail |
havocmom |
Jan-28-07 08:39 PM |
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Interesting trivia |
johnnie |
Jan-28-07 08:53 PM |
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PLEASE tell me Doug Lewellyn did the post-trial interview. |
slj0101 |
Jan-28-07 08:55 PM |
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lol |
johnnie |
Jan-28-07 09:01 PM |
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Get OUT!! |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-29-07 08:40 AM |
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I never heard of Judge Wapner, but Rusty was the bailiff |
Darth_Kitten |
Jan-29-07 10:30 AM |
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You never heard of Wapner |
johnnie |
Jan-29-07 10:31 AM |
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No, I only heard that Rusty was the bailiff...... |
Darth_Kitten |
Jan-29-07 10:47 AM |
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Ok, this is where I messed up |
johnnie |
Jan-29-07 11:25 AM |
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"The Downward Spiral" |
XemaSab |
Jan-28-07 10:19 PM |
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That is one scary group. |
murielm99 |
Jan-29-07 02:29 AM |
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I picked up "Live Freaky! Die Freaky!" last month ... |
meegbear |
Jan-29-07 11:15 AM |
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If it's being compared to "Pink Flamingos" |
ronnykmarshall |
Jan-29-07 12:25 PM |
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I was a little kid when it happened, so I really only remember |
NewWaveChick1981 |
Jan-29-07 11:26 AM |
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You should read "The Famliy" by Ed Sanders ... |
meegbear |
Jan-29-07 01:33 PM |
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Yes! A far better account than "Helter Skelter"... |
mitchum |
Jan-29-07 04:46 PM |
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Can I ask a dumb question...? |
BlueIris |
Jan-29-07 03:28 PM |
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Maybe Sharon T's birthday (would have been 64 last Wednesday)..or |
formerrepuke |
Jan-29-07 03:36 PM |
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Maybe because there hasn't been as frightening a time in America since that era |
FredScuttle |
Jan-29-07 03:54 PM |
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So, for you, like, '69-70 was the worst (until *)? |
BlueIris |
Jan-29-07 04:10 PM |
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True Hollywood Story |
FredScuttle |
Jan-29-07 03:51 PM |
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He was right to play it cool......... |
Darth_Kitten |
Jan-29-07 05:48 PM |
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Crispin himself is a very strange person |
idgiehkt |
Jan-29-07 07:51 PM |
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The Family had probably been to Geer's house before... |
mitchum |
Jan-29-07 10:06 PM |
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It was a contracted HIT because Voytek Frykowsky burned some drug dealers... |
mitchum |
Jan-29-07 04:28 PM |
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That's very interesting. I've never bought the official story... |
Robeson |
Jan-30-07 01:10 AM |
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I've never heard this |
enigmatic |
Jan-30-07 01:15 AM |
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I need to see this thread right before I got to bed |
LSK |
Jan-30-07 12:55 AM |
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watch out for creepy-crawlers! |
Crabby Appleton |
Jan-30-07 04:44 AM |
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I saw an interesting interview once with Leslie Van Houton and Patricia Krenwinkle |
noonwitch |
Jan-30-07 08:29 AM |
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