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ponthedge Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 11:23 AM
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97. I would ask you to show me where...
I said it was WRONG. There is nothing wrong with sexual arousal. Having to view PORN to be aroused could be an issue for debate at a later time. I do not think that that statement is truly what makes you angry with me.

I did at one point offer up that I can be wrong and often times, I am. As I may have been in one particular sentence...please read further.

I am not the judge of what is wrong or right. I can however, in my opinion, define what is SCUM for me. I fear that I crossed the line when I passed judgment on all other people. I apologize for that statement. I quote it here again to make it part of the record.

"On another note, those who think that traditional porn industry is somehow BETTER than what SCUMBAG does are wrong. Both are scum. Only real difference is that, for the most part, the porn industry keeps better records."

That statement makes the inference (through lack of clarity) that those who think PORN is better than GGW are SCUM. That is simply a wrong statement for me to make. I apologize to all of DU.

I will retract my statement and generalization. I will assume that this generalization is really the crux of your complaint with me and for that I apologize.

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  -'Girls Gone Wild' producer given community service Scurrilous  Dec-13-06 11:31 AM   #0 
  - I thought "Girls Gone Wild" WAS community service  Ezlivin   Dec-13-06 11:33 AM   #1 
  - exactly!  wordslikelead   Dec-13-06 02:28 PM   #40 
     - So you're okay with him doing this with minors  Oeditpus Rex   Dec-13-06 05:10 PM   #59 
     - I don't think anyone is arguing that it's ok for him to  SemperEadem   Dec-13-06 05:14 PM   #61 
     - Let's expand on that logic:  Oeditpus Rex   Dec-13-06 05:22 PM   #63 
     - Ok, I see... you're saying it's ok for an underaged person  SemperEadem   Dec-13-06 05:54 PM   #66 
     - We have laws in place  Oeditpus Rex   Dec-13-06 06:00 PM   #68 
        - who says it's hard for me to understand?  SemperEadem   Dec-13-06 08:22 PM   #74 
           - When someone puts words into my mouth  Oeditpus Rex   Dec-13-06 08:25 PM   #75 
     - Not the same as furnishing alcohol to a minor  mongo   Dec-14-06 12:26 PM   #98 
     - no one under 18 is legally able to give consent  dwickham   Dec-14-06 12:58 AM   #91 
     - I said...  wordslikelead   Dec-13-06 07:48 PM   #70 
        - You're talking sexual consent  Oeditpus Rex   Dec-13-06 07:52 PM   #71 
        - blah  wordslikelead   Dec-13-06 07:57 PM   #72 
        - Until your sister or girlfriend shows up in one  Oeditpus Rex   Dec-13-06 08:04 PM   #73 
        - not quite  wordslikelead   Dec-13-06 11:18 PM   #87 
           - Is that you mr. francis?nt  Javaman   Dec-14-06 09:38 AM   #94 
        - They're not the only ones...  JonathanChance   Dec-14-06 03:17 PM   #111 
        - If you are at a crowd at a public event  mongo   Dec-14-06 12:29 PM   #99 
           - You do if you market my image for profit  Oeditpus Rex   Dec-14-06 02:50 PM   #110 
              - Not if he shoots you from a public place such as a sidewalk or a park.  JonathanChance   Dec-14-06 03:19 PM   #112 
                 - You're talking privacy laws  Oeditpus Rex   Dec-14-06 03:55 PM   #113 
        - "17-year-olds know what they are doing."  Left Is Write   Dec-13-06 10:37 PM   #82 
           - I'm sorry  wordslikelead   Dec-13-06 11:13 PM   #86 
              - That's exactly the kind of thinking I was referring to -  Left Is Write   Dec-14-06 12:49 PM   #102 
     - this is the problem: "they got drunk, they exposed themselves to the cameras."  idgiehkt   Dec-13-06 08:38 PM   #76 
  - Fuck him. He should rot in prison.  slj0101   Dec-13-06 11:33 AM   #2 
  - the best and easiest way to shut him down  MissMillie   Dec-13-06 12:50 PM   #22 
  - Easiest? You mean somehow get all the people who like to look at  Ron_Green   Dec-13-06 01:40 PM   #36 
     - So, who do you want to be in charge of deciding  MissMillie   Dec-13-06 03:14 PM   #50 
        - I agree that education is the key to this.  Ron_Green   Dec-13-06 05:41 PM   #64 
        - whoa  idgiehkt   Dec-13-06 08:43 PM   #77 
        - Oh come on  mongo   Dec-14-06 12:34 PM   #100 
  - If I have to watch another one of his soft core porn mini-infomercials on late night Comedy Central  MGD   Dec-13-06 02:56 PM   #44 
  - Yeah, community service isn't going to be meaningful, either.  Fierce   Dec-13-06 11:33 AM   #3 
  - What will he drive to do his community service?  Ezlivin   Dec-13-06 11:49 AM   #5 
     - I think he should do his community service  KitchenWitch   Dec-14-06 02:21 AM   #93 
  - They should introduce him to Loreena Bobbit  Donnachaidh   Dec-13-06 11:37 AM   #4 
  - Yes, cut off his genitalia. He shows women's breasts!!  Bonobo   Dec-13-06 11:51 AM   #6 
     - The issue is that he has sexually exploited minors, which he has  LostinVA   Dec-13-06 12:01 PM   #9 
     - Where are their parents?  rfranklin   Dec-13-06 12:13 PM   #14 
     - Sexual predators can be anywhere  ayeshahaqqiqa   Dec-13-06 12:24 PM   #17 
     - Why on earth did you get in the effing car?!  Ned_Devine   Dec-13-06 06:06 PM   #69 
     - That's a moot point, and has nothing to do with his exploitation of them  LostinVA   Dec-13-06 12:35 PM   #19 
     - Not to mention who is getting 17 year olds alcohol.  genieroze   Dec-13-06 12:42 PM   #21 
     - They could easily be from two towns over...and not have travelled at all. NT  MADem   Dec-13-06 01:28 PM   #33 
     - Oh, not just exploited. He's a rapist, too.  Shakespeare   Dec-13-06 12:30 PM   #18 
     - You're completely right, I just didn't want to add that to the mix  LostinVA   Dec-13-06 12:37 PM   #20 
     - Heh. That never stops me.  Shakespeare   Dec-13-06 12:54 PM   #23 
        - It usually doesn't stop me, either, but I'm tired today  LostinVA   Dec-13-06 01:13 PM   #26 
           - Yup. Either that, or....  Shakespeare   Dec-13-06 01:18 PM   #27 
     - I read the story  judaspriestess   Dec-13-06 01:21 PM   #28 
     - Regardless of whether or not she was a virgin  ThomCat   Dec-13-06 01:28 PM   #32 
     - you are right about that  judaspriestess   Dec-13-06 01:33 PM   #34 
     - Afterward, he said to one of the crew members  Oeditpus Rex   Dec-13-06 05:13 PM   #60 
     - Here's a link to the salient aspects of what you mentioned  MADem   Dec-13-06 01:36 PM   #35 
     - We should require all flashers at Mardi Gras  mongo   Dec-14-06 12:44 PM   #101 
     - He targets and exploits minors.  ThomCat   Dec-13-06 01:26 PM   #30 
     - no dear -- he uses stupid young women to make money  Donnachaidh   Dec-13-06 02:38 PM   #41 
     - I think he should be strapped into a lazy boy recliner with his eyes taped open  MGD   Dec-13-06 03:03 PM   #45 
        - Sounds good to me!  Donnachaidh   Dec-13-06 04:34 PM   #56 
        - With the volume turned up to an ear-piercing level, too!!!!!!! NT  MADem   Dec-13-06 04:43 PM   #57 
     - Don't forget, Dude,  Megahurtz   Dec-13-06 04:22 PM   #54 
  - And what is community service?  qwlauren35   Dec-13-06 11:55 AM   #7 
  - The point is the age of the females in his videos, not the content  LostinVA   Dec-13-06 12:02 PM   #10 
  - What horseshit is this?  MADem   Dec-13-06 11:56 AM   #8 
  - Get a TiVo - save your sanity  Ezlivin   Dec-13-06 12:04 PM   #11 
  - I honestly can't bring myself to spend money every month for the "joy" of  MADem   Dec-13-06 01:11 PM   #25 
  - I know what you mean: if I fall asleep watching Comedy Central then that wakes me up, I have a hard  TheBorealAvenger   Dec-13-06 12:06 PM   #12 
  - it is a bit tough  northzax   Dec-13-06 01:10 PM   #24 
  - Actually, not always. I understand he does some of his filming in Mexico and other locales where  MADem   Dec-13-06 01:23 PM   #29 
     - You hit the nail on the head  mongo   Dec-14-06 12:50 PM   #103 
  - I find them annoying also  Gelliebeans   Dec-13-06 10:25 PM   #80 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-13-06 12:07 PM   #13 
  - ass should be in prison.  lionesspriyanka   Dec-13-06 12:20 PM   #15 
  - At least he didn't get 25 to life  ayeshahaqqiqa   Dec-13-06 12:21 PM   #16 
  - actually...  pc1971   Dec-13-06 02:55 PM   #43 
  - The Law & Order episode character was charged with felony murder.  Left Is Write   Dec-13-06 10:44 PM   #84 
  - Jeepers, dude makes a lot of cake!  truthisfreedom   Dec-13-06 01:26 PM   #31 
  - The market loves this stuff.  Ron_Green   Dec-13-06 01:49 PM   #37 
     - "moral controls of the Church"  idgiehkt   Dec-13-06 08:48 PM   #78 
  - Sex is bad, mkay.  the other one   Dec-13-06 02:13 PM   #38 
  - sex is not bad. i am all for porn.  lionesspriyanka   Dec-13-06 02:14 PM   #39 
  - I'm sick and tired of watching those fucking mini-informercials on comedy central every 20 minutes.  MGD   Dec-13-06 02:49 PM   #42 
  - Let's see..  ponthedge   Dec-13-06 03:05 PM   #47 
     - What's exactly wrong with the purpose of "PORN?"  haruka3_2000   Dec-14-06 12:33 AM   #90 
        - I would ask you to show me where...  ponthedge   Dec-14-06 11:23 AM   #97 
  - Not one person on this thread has has been anti-porn  LostinVA   Dec-13-06 03:05 PM   #48 
  - I am.  ponthedge   Dec-13-06 03:14 PM   #49 
     - Just a question, how do you know this? I am not aware of all of this stuff  Sapere aude   Dec-13-06 05:07 PM   #58 
     - GGW is sick and exploitative. The REAL porn movie industry is pretty well-regulated.  haruka3_2000   Dec-14-06 12:25 AM   #88 
     - I never said  ponthedge   Dec-14-06 11:00 AM   #96 
        - The only ignorant person in this thread is you.  mongo   Dec-14-06 01:01 PM   #105 
           - Your funny  ponthedge   Dec-14-06 02:08 PM   #107 
     - Yeah, that's "Girls Gone Wild" but that's not legitimate porn.  haruka3_2000   Dec-14-06 12:28 AM   #89 
     - A few gems...  ponthedge   Dec-14-06 10:47 AM   #95 
     - It's on the internet -- it MUST be true!  mongo   Dec-14-06 12:57 PM   #104 
        - No bubble bursting here.  ponthedge   Dec-14-06 02:16 PM   #108 
  - Are you intentionally missing the point?  Oeditpus Rex   Dec-13-06 05:19 PM   #62 
  - When they exploit the boyz  eowyn_of_rohan   Dec-13-06 05:45 PM   #65 
  - I'm not against sex. I am against the exploitation of minors.  Left Is Write   Dec-13-06 10:44 PM   #85 
  - Open your eyes and bloody well read properly!  foreigncorrespondent   Dec-15-06 05:44 AM   #115 
  - One of these days he will lose it...  hunter   Dec-13-06 03:05 PM   #46 
  - Best comment ever.  ponthedge   Dec-13-06 03:15 PM   #51 
  - He WILL Lose "It"  Megahurtz   Dec-13-06 04:31 PM   #55 
  - Counseling teen aged girls, no doubt :) n/t  SoCalDem   Dec-13-06 03:33 PM   #52 
  - What a SleazeBag. Fuck him!  Megahurtz   Dec-13-06 04:18 PM   #53 
  - This thread is useless without pictures.  against all enemies   Dec-13-06 05:55 PM   #67 
  - A couple of years ago they were going to do a shoot here  ironflange   Dec-13-06 08:59 PM   #79 
  - Moved.  Left Is Write   Dec-13-06 10:34 PM   #81 
  - "It does not take a very brave man to go out and corner a girl in the middle of spring break who had  Writer   Dec-13-06 10:39 PM   #83 
  - Joe Francis thinks he's above the law  blogslut   Dec-14-06 01:17 AM   #92 
  - Exactly  mongo   Dec-14-06 01:04 PM   #106 
  - those videos are exploitive and the people who appear in them must be  WI_DEM   Dec-14-06 02:18 PM   #109 
  - It wouldn't hurt if people would be more careful who they film.  Jamastiene   Dec-15-06 03:47 AM   #114 

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