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Tue Dec-05-06 05:36 PM
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| 36. I think he'd answer it as being a non issue |
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If people want to get married then let them. Christ often seperated spiritual issues from worldly ones. I base my opinion on his response to questions about taxes, marriage, and political power.
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| -There's been a lot of hostility towards Jesus and Christians in the Lounge lately. |
Aristus |
Dec-05-06 02:15 PM |
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... |
lelapin |
Dec-05-06 02:17 PM |
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Amen brother. Can I get a "praise the Lord"? |
ohiosmith |
Dec-05-06 02:19 PM |
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What do you believe Christ would have to say about gay marriage? |
crim son |
Dec-05-06 02:28 PM |
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something about getting the plank out of your own eye |
MrCoffee |
Dec-05-06 02:37 PM |
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A forgivable sin, then? |
crim son |
Dec-05-06 02:54 PM |
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mary magdalene |
xchrom |
Dec-05-06 05:36 PM |
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I haven't heard Mary Magdalene described as an apostle before. |
crim son |
Dec-05-06 06:37 PM |
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jesus slept with john. |
xchrom |
Dec-05-06 05:32 PM |
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I think Jesus would oppose it, like any Jew at the time. |
crim son |
Dec-05-06 06:46 PM |
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out of all his male followers he called only one beloved. |
xchrom |
Dec-05-06 07:06 PM |
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On this we agree completely: |
crim son |
Dec-05-06 07:12 PM |
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I think he'd answer it as being a non issue |
liontamer |
Dec-05-06 05:36 PM |
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Truly I Say |
Southpawkicker |
Dec-05-06 07:08 PM |
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LOL. |
crim son |
Dec-05-06 07:16 PM |
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Well, Yes |
Southpawkicker |
Dec-05-06 07:27 PM |
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Well said... |
chknltl |
Dec-05-06 09:14 PM |
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He'd be asking where the buffet table at the reception is. |
Telly Savalas |
Dec-05-06 09:49 PM |
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Best post here so far! |
xmas74 |
Dec-06-06 09:00 AM |
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I have no idea what He would have said about gay marriage. |
Aristus |
Dec-05-06 02:33 PM |
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Thank you for answering the question. |
crim son |
Dec-05-06 02:52 PM |
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I believe that Jesus would have welcomed gay marriage. |
Midlodemocrat |
Dec-05-06 04:49 PM |
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There are probably a fair number of Christians who have |
crim son |
Dec-05-06 05:24 PM |
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Jesus was well aware of how difficult the pursuit of happiness can be. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-05-06 05:36 PM |
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That wasn't expressed badly. |
94114_San_Francisco |
Dec-05-06 06:30 PM |
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Well, I appreciate that. |
crim son |
Dec-05-06 06:42 PM |
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I should distinguish between fundamentalists and liberal Christians. |
94114_San_Francisco |
Dec-05-06 07:33 PM |
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Yeah, Why Isn't It Your Business |
Southpawkicker |
Dec-05-06 07:03 PM |
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Could everyone please line up? |
94114_San_Francisco |
Dec-05-06 07:44 PM |
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Yeah, Please Take A Number! |
Southpawkicker |
Dec-05-06 07:49 PM |
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No, It Isn't Badly Expressed |
Southpawkicker |
Dec-05-06 06:49 PM |
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If we agree, then you are biased! |
crim son |
Dec-05-06 06:54 PM |
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Of Course I'm Biased |
Southpawkicker |
Dec-05-06 06:59 PM |
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... |
miss_american_pie |
Dec-05-06 02:34 PM |
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Thank you! |
azmouse |
Dec-05-06 02:37 PM |
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"and even atheists"? |
BarenakedLady |
Dec-05-06 02:38 PM |
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You're right, I didn't mean it that way. |
Aristus |
Dec-05-06 02:48 PM |
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No worries |
Az |
Dec-05-06 04:39 PM |
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AZ!! |
OhioBlues |
Dec-05-06 06:37 PM |
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I was just thinking the VERY same thing!!! |
Bzzzz |
Dec-05-06 08:10 PM |
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Thanks, buddy. |
Aristus |
Dec-05-06 07:19 PM |
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AZ!!! |
youthere |
Dec-06-06 11:05 AM |
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It's actually kind of ironic. |
primate1 |
Dec-05-06 02:52 PM |
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There are many of us at DU who are practising Christians. |
SOteric |
Dec-05-06 02:57 PM |
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I stay out of them. |
xmas74 |
Dec-05-06 03:52 PM |
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So do I. |
Midlodemocrat |
Dec-06-06 07:55 AM |
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Thank you! |
xmas74 |
Dec-06-06 08:56 AM |
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If I come across anti-christian I apologize |
Taverner |
Dec-05-06 02:59 PM |
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Hell, there's been a lot of hostility in the Lounge |
cwydro |
Dec-05-06 02:59 PM |
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There ya go... |
blondeatlast |
Dec-05-06 05:38 PM |
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Precisely. |
Ariana Celeste |
Dec-05-06 06:03 PM |
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Thank you.... |
L A Woman |
Dec-05-06 03:09 PM |
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What do you mean, lately...? |
billyskank |
Dec-05-06 03:54 PM |
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*is*, surely? |
HypnoToad |
Dec-05-06 03:55 PM |
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i am cool with Jesus |
buddhamama |
Dec-05-06 03:56 PM |
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Thank you, Aristus! |
Kajsa |
Dec-05-06 04:11 PM |
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I think we need a disclaimer: |
El Fuego |
Dec-05-06 04:37 PM |
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Christian*. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-05-06 05:42 PM |
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Happens every Christmas |
skygazer |
Dec-05-06 04:37 PM |
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Jesus is just alright with me. |
Blue-Jay |
Dec-05-06 04:38 PM |
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Ghandi. |
Midlodemocrat |
Dec-05-06 04:39 PM |
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Precisely. |
Blue-Jay |
Dec-05-06 04:48 PM |
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Exactly how I feel. I'm embarrassed to say I worship the same |
Midlodemocrat |
Dec-05-06 04:50 PM |
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Really? Where? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-05-06 04:49 PM |
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Everyone is heading in the same direction |
johnnie |
Dec-05-06 04:53 PM |
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I'm sure the Christians you don't like consider themselves "real" Christians. |
idgiehkt |
Dec-05-06 05:24 PM |
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criticism is not so hard to take |
hfojvt |
Dec-05-06 05:55 PM |
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I'm for debate, not censorship |
idgiehkt |
Dec-05-06 06:16 PM |
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there's no debate involved in simple name calling |
hfojvt |
Dec-05-06 06:34 PM |
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this isn't directed at you... |
WindRavenX |
Dec-05-06 05:43 PM |
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So much toxic waste in GD it's bound to spillover to the Lounge |
blondeatlast |
Dec-05-06 05:45 PM |
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If it makes you feel any better there's a lot of hostility towards atheists CONSTANTLY |
Connonym |
Dec-05-06 05:59 PM |
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Yeah, what's up with that? |
BikeWriter |
Dec-05-06 06:02 PM |
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Yes, that is a good point |
cwydro |
Dec-05-06 06:47 PM |
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thanks for pointing that out |
WindRavenX |
Dec-05-06 06:50 PM |
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This is what drives me nuts: |
mainegreen |
Dec-05-06 06:51 PM |
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Exactly. Attack the beliefs. |
WritingIsMyReligion |
Dec-05-06 07:43 PM |
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Oh, bullshit. |
Blue-Jay |
Dec-05-06 07:08 PM |
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Whine. |
bertha katzenengel |
Dec-05-06 08:09 PM |
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Except in America, where Christians are the 80% majority and in no danger of being oppressed. (nt) |
WritingIsMyReligion |
Dec-05-06 08:24 PM |
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In the real world, yes, but on this board it's hostility toward Christians... |
L A Woman |
Dec-06-06 07:41 PM |
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Lately? |
AirmensMom |
Dec-05-06 06:55 PM |
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I think it's fine to mock the beliefs of others, or at least criticize them. |
WritingIsMyReligion |
Dec-05-06 07:46 PM |
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I don't think it's fine to mock the beliefs of others. Not at all. |
speedoo |
Dec-05-06 08:11 PM |
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You mean mocking would be like "Christianity is a piss-poor child's |
WritingIsMyReligion |
Dec-05-06 08:23 PM |
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Do you deliberately make statements designed to anger people? |
speedoo |
Dec-05-06 08:51 PM |
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Nooo.... |
WritingIsMyReligion |
Dec-05-06 09:14 PM |
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Nope. |
speedoo |
Dec-05-06 09:33 PM |
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So can we mock Fundies? Can we mock Republicans? |
Evoman |
Dec-05-06 10:35 PM |
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What is your purpose at DU? |
hfojvt |
Dec-06-06 02:36 AM |
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Thank you for that post. |
speedoo |
Dec-06-06 02:54 AM |
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aw shucks. It's nice of you to say so |
hfojvt |
Dec-06-06 04:01 AM |
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Yeah, it's fine if you have no respect for them whatsoever |
billyskank |
Dec-06-06 07:41 AM |
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No, it's not fine to mock the beliefs of others. |
AirmensMom |
Dec-06-06 07:43 AM |
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I disagree. Mocking is belittling and serves no purpose. |
Midlodemocrat |
Dec-06-06 09:10 AM |
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We're all atheists. I just happen to believe in one less god than you. |
RetroLounge |
Dec-05-06 07:03 PM |
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That is a very intriguing way to put it. |
cwydro |
Dec-05-06 07:08 PM |
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What's your definition of atheism? |
speedoo |
Dec-05-06 09:45 PM |
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Clearly you do. |
RetroLounge |
Dec-05-06 10:37 PM |
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Yes, I miss the point of the quote. |
speedoo |
Dec-05-06 10:44 PM |
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The quote's part of an argument that goes like this: |
SteppingRazor |
Dec-06-06 09:58 AM |
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Here's the whole quote: |
deucemagnet |
Dec-06-06 10:18 AM |
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... |
RetroLounge |
Dec-06-06 11:53 AM |
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Thank you. |
speedoo |
Dec-06-06 02:43 PM |
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It's relevent because I BELIEVE it is. |
RetroLounge |
Dec-06-06 02:55 PM |
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No I am not mocking your beliefs. |
speedoo |
Dec-06-06 03:05 PM |
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Why do you care? |
RetroLounge |
Dec-06-06 03:26 PM |
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No. Are you? |
speedoo |
Dec-06-06 04:02 PM |
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You already made many assumptions |
RetroLounge |
Dec-06-06 04:24 PM |
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Did I really? |
speedoo |
Dec-06-06 04:28 PM |
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You do not care why I posted the quote. |
RetroLounge |
Dec-06-06 04:32 PM |
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Right. |
speedoo |
Dec-06-06 04:36 PM |
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I hate fundamentalists. That is all. |
uppityperson |
Dec-05-06 07:14 PM |
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suck it up |
Skittles |
Dec-05-06 07:23 PM |
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that would make a great band name... |
QuestionAll |
Dec-05-06 07:25 PM |
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Jeebus told me, this I know... |
WritingIsMyReligion |
Dec-05-06 07:40 PM |
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And well deserved is what I say. |
trof |
Dec-05-06 07:49 PM |
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You are correct on both counts, my friend. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-05-06 08:58 PM |
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Hostility toward Jeebiz? You gotta be kidding! |
leftofthedial |
Dec-05-06 07:55 PM |
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theres a lot of hostility period, you should see the mocking of the gays here, atleast IRL |
lionesspriyanka |
Dec-05-06 08:25 PM |
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A-friggen-Men! |
tinfoil tiaras |
Dec-05-06 08:27 PM |
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Hostility towards any group is bigotry. |
jobycom |
Dec-05-06 08:30 PM |
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Republicans? |
Evoman |
Dec-05-06 10:40 PM |
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Yes |
jobycom |
Dec-06-06 07:39 AM |
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Well, here's where I see a difference. |
SteppingRazor |
Dec-06-06 10:11 AM |
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What if it's discovered that sexual orientation is not genetic? |
jobycom |
Dec-06-06 10:21 AM |
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If hostility toward a group for its beliefs is bigotry... |
SteppingRazor |
Dec-06-06 10:33 AM |
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Logical fallacies |
jobycom |
Dec-06-06 11:19 AM |
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..... |
mduffy31 |
Dec-05-06 10:39 PM |
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Thank you for speaking out, Aristus. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Dec-05-06 10:46 PM |
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Jesus is different from the "Christians." |
Floogeldy |
Dec-05-06 10:52 PM |
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What bugs me are the people who jump into any thread that has |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-06-06 12:52 AM |
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Thank you for that. |
speedoo |
Dec-06-06 01:37 AM |
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I haven't much persecution of atheists on DU either. |
Evoman |
Dec-06-06 01:56 AM |
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I wasn't offended at the "YMCA" thread |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-06-06 08:55 AM |
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I've never understood this attitude of |
GirlinContempt |
Dec-06-06 08:20 AM |
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If you are referring to me, I will explain myself. |
crim son |
Dec-06-06 10:51 AM |
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Why would you think that I was |
GirlinContempt |
Dec-07-06 06:38 PM |
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Good. |
crim son |
Dec-07-06 09:44 PM |
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I don't. |
GirlinContempt |
Dec-07-06 09:48 PM |
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I won't get mad at Jesus if he doesn't turn on his leaf blower before 8. I'm still trying to sleep! |
yurbud |
Dec-06-06 01:41 AM |
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Thanks, Aristus, for this appeal. |
swimboy |
Dec-06-06 09:17 AM |
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What should we call you? |
zanne |
Dec-06-06 09:18 AM |
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I agree with you. It's hard to be a 'Christian' and not get lumped in |
Midlodemocrat |
Dec-06-06 10:03 AM |
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As I mention above, call us Christians, as we try to follow our |
blondeatlast |
Dec-06-06 04:26 PM |
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Fundies and other assorted idiots have abused the "Christian" designation horribly... |
NewWaveChick1981 |
Dec-06-06 10:20 AM |
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Jesus was DEFINITELY a Liberal. If He was not, when the mob brought |
Aristus |
Dec-06-06 09:38 PM |
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Without getting too far "into it" (this is the LOUNGE afterall)... |
youthere |
Dec-06-06 11:45 AM |
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However, there's a whole thread in R&T about how horrible Jim Wallis is |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-06-06 02:40 PM |
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Very true.. |
youthere |
Dec-06-06 08:17 PM |
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I'm not offended. Either by your reply, or by the threads I was calling out |
Aristus |
Dec-06-06 09:57 PM |
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You can't let it get to you.. |
youthere |
Dec-07-06 11:24 AM |
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I think that at least several occasions I may have been guilty of this. |
NNadir |
Dec-06-06 11:48 AM |
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I think many christians imagine far more hostility than there |
ThomCat |
Dec-06-06 03:15 PM |
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Thom, it takes no imagination whatsoever to see the hostility in this thread. |
speedoo |
Dec-06-06 04:04 PM |
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I hope we can agree to disagree on this. |
ThomCat |
Dec-06-06 04:20 PM |
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I don't know. |
speedoo |
Dec-06-06 04:34 PM |
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I can agree, to an extent |
ThomCat |
Dec-06-06 04:48 PM |
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I can agree with some of that. |
speedoo |
Dec-06-06 05:05 PM |
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"most Christians have not been so polite to non-christians" |
ThomCat |
Dec-06-06 05:23 PM |
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Aren't you basing some harsh conclusions and judgements on the "Christian majority" arguement? |
speedoo |
Dec-06-06 06:16 PM |
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I don't see the hostility you keep referring to. |
ThomCat |
Dec-06-06 06:30 PM |
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It's not my business to set standards for making judgements. |
speedoo |
Dec-06-06 06:54 PM |
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Some corrections |
ThomCat |
Dec-06-06 07:07 PM |
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Well, I guess it's time to end this mini-thread. |
speedoo |
Dec-06-06 07:24 PM |
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Must agree to your allusion to "reverse discrimination." |
blondeatlast |
Dec-06-06 05:14 PM |
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That must have been a bit painful |
ThomCat |
Dec-06-06 05:26 PM |
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Exactly |
Connonym |
Dec-06-06 08:21 PM |
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Indeed they do--and I AM Christian. My sense of humor and faith are sturdy enough |
blondeatlast |
Dec-06-06 04:06 PM |
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Yikes. |
janesez |
Dec-07-06 11:30 AM |
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Amen. And amen. |
dbaker41 |
Dec-06-06 04:23 PM |
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You've authored an excellent thread, Aristus. Congrats! n/t |
jarab |
Dec-06-06 07:15 PM |
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Excellent discussion |
gfindu |
Dec-07-06 01:59 PM |
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Jesus never denounced abortion. |
ih8thegop |
Dec-07-06 09:56 PM |
#172 |