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Sat Dec-02-06 10:58 AM
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There is such a thing as a "whiff" of cigarette smoke. If I'm walking past you on the street and smoking, you will literally catch a whiff of smoke. Unless you are hooked up to an oxygen tank, a whiff of smoke will not kill you.
The overwhelming majority of people dying of secondhand smoke die due to prolonged exposure to it in enclosed areas, not a one-time exposure to it in the open air, or even repeated exposure in the open air.
You mentioned that smoking within 100 yards of anybody should be criminalized as a felony, something that is both unenforceable and, well, impossible unless you live in the middle of nowhere. And if you can smell cigarette smoke from 100 yards away (a football field, mind you), then you must be some sort of alien life form.
A drunk driver has to hit you once to kill you. Someone who physically assaults you, baseball bat or otherwise, can also kill you, or at least cause severe damage. Proportionally speaking, drunk drivers and people who assault others are much more efficient than smokers in terms of causing harm to others.
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| -Scott's Lawn Company Fires Worker For Smoking (OFF The Job) |
matcom |
Nov-30-06 09:15 AM |
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I seem to remember a Michigan company a couple years ago |
AllegroRondo |
Nov-30-06 09:19 AM |
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Hold it. They are drug testing grass cutters now? |
underpants |
Nov-30-06 09:26 AM |
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Of course. Do you want some reefer mad dude crashing into your trees, |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 09:30 AM |
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Bosses are now cops. Didn't you get the memo? |
Deep13 |
Nov-30-06 10:17 AM |
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He wasn't a grass cutter |
jmowreader |
Nov-30-06 02:57 PM |
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This is wrong. Nicotine is not illegal. Unless he lied about it an insurance form, they |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 09:27 AM |
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Naw.. |
johnnie |
Nov-30-06 09:33 AM |
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I am no fan of smoking. I think it stinks up a room or a car. So, yes, ban it from |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 09:39 AM |
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I have no problem paying higher insurance.. |
johnnie |
Nov-30-06 09:48 AM |
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Sorry, no, that won't cut it. There are reams of data on the health effects of smoking. Not so |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 10:11 AM |
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Sorry, I guess my point didn't come across |
johnnie |
Nov-30-06 10:14 AM |
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Eh? |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Nov-30-06 01:26 PM |
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Hmm. Well I didn't say that. Your words, not mine. Your point is? |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 02:08 PM |
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I quit smoking in the past six months. |
xmas74 |
Nov-30-06 04:53 PM |
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I believe healthcare costs are driven up more by non-exercisers |
Skittles |
Nov-30-06 10:55 AM |
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Again it is a question of monitoring so it is a non starter even if your claim is |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 11:17 AM |
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In other word, |
Blue-Jay |
Nov-30-06 06:35 PM |
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You should try it |
GirlinContempt |
Dec-02-06 11:06 AM |
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That is scary |
OhioBlues |
Nov-30-06 09:29 AM |
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Oh well |
johnnie |
Nov-30-06 09:30 AM |
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Oh come on. |
jobycom |
Nov-30-06 10:18 AM |
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You're right |
johnnie |
Nov-30-06 10:23 AM |
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Yeah, prohibition works great |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Nov-30-06 01:23 PM |
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So, what, you think we should end prohibition on murder, rape, robbery |
jobycom |
Dec-01-06 12:14 PM |
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OH My God...You think like I do... |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Nov-30-06 05:22 PM |
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. |
jobycom |
Dec-01-06 12:09 PM |
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Well no - most here are not "applauding this type of thing." So you are pulling a straw man there. |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 10:27 AM |
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I said "more and more people" are applauding |
johnnie |
Nov-30-06 10:41 AM |
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Not sure that most people would applaud banning smoking outside of the workplace and public |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 10:46 AM |
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Enough with the straw man. That phrase is overused and a cop out |
johnnie |
Nov-30-06 11:30 AM |
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I think it is a good term. Sorry you disagree. |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 01:56 PM |
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Good luck in the war on saving the world |
johnnie |
Nov-30-06 02:15 PM |
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How you "live your life" can have an impact on other people if you are smoking carelessly. |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 02:39 PM |
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Exactly |
johnnie |
Nov-30-06 02:45 PM |
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Hmm. I don't think you are taking it the way I meant it. I meant that the |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 02:48 PM |
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I'm afraid I don't know what examples you are talking about |
johnnie |
Nov-30-06 03:05 PM |
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Not sure I was commenting on which ones would affect you specifically but anyway |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 04:42 PM |
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He didn't say "most," he said "more and more" |
petronius |
Nov-30-06 02:05 PM |
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Thank you |
johnnie |
Nov-30-06 02:10 PM |
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You're welcome. Actually, you said it quite clearly in #33, I just like to |
petronius |
Nov-30-06 02:35 PM |
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I sided with the smoker in this case. But I do think that smokers have brought |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 02:46 PM |
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There was a time |
brook |
Dec-01-06 12:49 AM |
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Well, most of the butts have been coming out of car windows in traffic, so I do not give smokers a |
yellowcanine |
Dec-01-06 10:32 AM |
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If dog owners |
brook |
Dec-01-06 11:03 AM |
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My brother is a non-smoker who works in a bar |
skygazer |
Nov-30-06 04:53 PM |
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While I am not a fan of smoking, it's going way too far for a company |
QMPMom |
Nov-30-06 09:41 AM |
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Not the School Board! Anything but that! |
pokerfan |
Nov-30-06 07:24 PM |
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If the school board requires that they should buy him a couple extra suits. |
yellowcanine |
Dec-01-06 12:07 PM |
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Cool. This case pits two of my strongest outrages against each other. |
jobycom |
Nov-30-06 10:10 AM |
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I hope to God you're sarcastic about this part of your post: |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Nov-30-06 11:08 PM |
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No. |
jobycom |
Dec-01-06 12:08 PM |
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You're seriously comparing smoking with assault and attempted murder? |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Dec-01-06 06:19 PM |
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Absolutely. |
jobycom |
Dec-02-06 09:46 AM |
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Where do I start... |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Dec-02-06 10:58 AM |
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What if he inhaled it second hand at a bar? |
mainegreen |
Nov-30-06 10:15 AM |
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another question crossed my mind |
matcom |
Nov-30-06 10:16 AM |
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good point - or nicotine gum. If he had a prescription he would probably be |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 10:31 AM |
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Scott's Lawn Chemicals Service is worried about smokers? |
Gormy Cuss |
Nov-30-06 10:32 AM |
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no shit |
Kali |
Nov-30-06 06:28 PM |
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This needs to end up with a huge pay-out. |
ThomCat |
Nov-30-06 10:43 AM |
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Another good reason to take Health Insurance out of Private hands |
new_beawr |
Nov-30-06 10:50 AM |
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Well yes, and then tax the hell out of all risky behaviors and put the tax money into the |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 11:20 AM |
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How would you keep pre-existing conditions and |
ThomCat |
Nov-30-06 04:44 PM |
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If we had a single-payer system, pre-existing conditions do not come up. |
yellowcanine |
Dec-01-06 10:40 AM |
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You're being sarcastic, right? Geez, I hope so... |
benEzra |
Dec-01-06 11:06 AM |
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smoking |
Parche |
Nov-30-06 10:52 AM |
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Excellent! n/t |
Connonym |
Nov-30-06 11:01 AM |
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Employers who think one's off hours are their business need to |
acmavm |
Nov-30-06 11:03 AM |
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Absolutely ridiculous |
cwydro |
Nov-30-06 11:04 AM |
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Mind-boggling hypocrisy.... |
Zookeeper |
Nov-30-06 02:06 PM |
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Well, to be fair, they aren't recommending smoking the 2,4 - D. |
yellowcanine |
Nov-30-06 04:50 PM |
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This hiring policy SHOULD be challenged - and found unlawful. |
Left Is Write |
Nov-30-06 02:39 PM |
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wow. |
ChoralScholar |
Nov-30-06 02:46 PM |
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There's an insurance company in Michigan |
ikojo |
Nov-30-06 07:03 PM |
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Simple recourse |
Oeditpus Rex |
Nov-30-06 07:13 PM |
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