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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #32
52. How would you keep pre-existing conditions and
disabilities from being taxed as risky?
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  -Scott's Lawn Company Fires Worker For Smoking (OFF The Job) matcom  Nov-30-06 09:15 AM   #0 
  - I seem to remember a Michigan company a couple years ago  AllegroRondo   Nov-30-06 09:19 AM   #1 
  - Hold it. They are drug testing grass cutters now?  underpants   Nov-30-06 09:26 AM   #2 
  - Of course. Do you want some reefer mad dude crashing into your trees,  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 09:30 AM   #5 
  - Bosses are now cops. Didn't you get the memo?  Deep13   Nov-30-06 10:17 AM   #16 
  - He wasn't a grass cutter  jmowreader   Nov-30-06 02:57 PM   #49 
  - This is wrong. Nicotine is not illegal. Unless he lied about it an insurance form, they  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 09:27 AM   #3 
  - Naw..  johnnie   Nov-30-06 09:33 AM   #7 
     - I am no fan of smoking. I think it stinks up a room or a car. So, yes, ban it from  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 09:39 AM   #8 
        - I have no problem paying higher insurance..  johnnie   Nov-30-06 09:48 AM   #10 
        - Sorry, no, that won't cut it. There are reams of data on the health effects of smoking. Not so  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 10:11 AM   #12 
        - Sorry, I guess my point didn't come across  johnnie   Nov-30-06 10:14 AM   #13 
        - Eh?  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Nov-30-06 01:26 PM   #35 
           - Hmm. Well I didn't say that. Your words, not mine. Your point is?  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 02:08 PM   #39 
        - I quit smoking in the past six months.  xmas74   Nov-30-06 04:53 PM   #54 
        - I believe healthcare costs are driven up more by non-exercisers  Skittles   Nov-30-06 10:55 AM   #27 
           - Again it is a question of monitoring so it is a non starter even if your claim is  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 11:17 AM   #31 
              - In other word,  Blue-Jay   Nov-30-06 06:35 PM   #58 
                 - You should try it  GirlinContempt   Dec-02-06 11:06 AM   #75 
  - That is scary  OhioBlues   Nov-30-06 09:29 AM   #4 
  - Oh well  johnnie   Nov-30-06 09:30 AM   #6 
  - Oh come on.  jobycom   Nov-30-06 10:18 AM   #17 
  - You're right  johnnie   Nov-30-06 10:23 AM   #18 
  - Yeah, prohibition works great  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Nov-30-06 01:23 PM   #34 
  - So, what, you think we should end prohibition on murder, rape, robbery  jobycom   Dec-01-06 12:14 PM   #71 
  - OH My God...You think like I do...  YellowRubberDuckie   Nov-30-06 05:22 PM   #56 
     - .  jobycom   Dec-01-06 12:09 PM   #70 
  - Well no - most here are not "applauding this type of thing." So you are pulling a straw man there.  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 10:27 AM   #19 
     - I said "more and more people" are applauding  johnnie   Nov-30-06 10:41 AM   #22 
     - Not sure that most people would applaud banning smoking outside of the workplace and public  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 10:46 AM   #24 
        - Enough with the straw man. That phrase is overused and a cop out  johnnie   Nov-30-06 11:30 AM   #33 
        - I think it is a good term. Sorry you disagree.  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 01:56 PM   #36 
           - Good luck in the war on saving the world  johnnie   Nov-30-06 02:15 PM   #41 
              - How you "live your life" can have an impact on other people if you are smoking carelessly.  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 02:39 PM   #44 
                 - Exactly  johnnie   Nov-30-06 02:45 PM   #45 
                    - Hmm. I don't think you are taking it the way I meant it. I meant that the  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 02:48 PM   #48 
                       - I'm afraid I don't know what examples you are talking about  johnnie   Nov-30-06 03:05 PM   #50 
                          - Not sure I was commenting on which ones would affect you specifically but anyway  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 04:42 PM   #51 
        - He didn't say "most," he said "more and more"  petronius   Nov-30-06 02:05 PM   #37 
           - Thank you  johnnie   Nov-30-06 02:10 PM   #40 
           - You're welcome. Actually, you said it quite clearly in #33, I just like to  petronius   Nov-30-06 02:35 PM   #42 
           - I sided with the smoker in this case. But I do think that smokers have brought  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 02:46 PM   #46 
              - There was a time  brook   Dec-01-06 12:49 AM   #63 
                 - Well, most of the butts have been coming out of car windows in traffic, so I do not give smokers a  yellowcanine   Dec-01-06 10:32 AM   #64 
                    - If dog owners  brook   Dec-01-06 11:03 AM   #66 
     - My brother is a non-smoker who works in a bar  skygazer   Nov-30-06 04:53 PM   #55 
  - While I am not a fan of smoking, it's going way too far for a company  QMPMom   Nov-30-06 09:41 AM   #9 
  - Not the School Board! Anything but that!  pokerfan   Nov-30-06 07:24 PM   #61 
  - If the school board requires that they should buy him a couple extra suits.  yellowcanine   Dec-01-06 12:07 PM   #68 
  - Cool. This case pits two of my strongest outrages against each other.  jobycom   Nov-30-06 10:10 AM   #11 
  - I hope to God you're sarcastic about this part of your post:  Starbucks Anarchist   Nov-30-06 11:08 PM   #62 
     - No.  jobycom   Dec-01-06 12:08 PM   #69 
        - You're seriously comparing smoking with assault and attempted murder?  Starbucks Anarchist   Dec-01-06 06:19 PM   #72 
           - Absolutely.  jobycom   Dec-02-06 09:46 AM   #73 
              - Where do I start...  Starbucks Anarchist   Dec-02-06 10:58 AM   #74 
  - What if he inhaled it second hand at a bar?  mainegreen   Nov-30-06 10:15 AM   #14 
  - another question crossed my mind  matcom   Nov-30-06 10:16 AM   #15 
     - good point - or nicotine gum. If he had a prescription he would probably be  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 10:31 AM   #20 
  - Scott's Lawn Chemicals Service is worried about smokers?  Gormy Cuss   Nov-30-06 10:32 AM   #21 
  - no shit  Kali   Nov-30-06 06:28 PM   #57 
  - This needs to end up with a huge pay-out.  ThomCat   Nov-30-06 10:43 AM   #23 
  - Another good reason to take Health Insurance out of Private hands  new_beawr   Nov-30-06 10:50 AM   #25 
  - Well yes, and then tax the hell out of all risky behaviors and put the tax money into the  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 11:20 AM   #32 
     - How would you keep pre-existing conditions and  ThomCat   Nov-30-06 04:44 PM   #52 
     - If we had a single-payer system, pre-existing conditions do not come up.  yellowcanine   Dec-01-06 10:40 AM   #65 
     - You're being sarcastic, right? Geez, I hope so...  benEzra   Dec-01-06 11:06 AM   #67 
  - smoking  Parche   Nov-30-06 10:52 AM   #26 
  - Excellent! n/t  Connonym   Nov-30-06 11:01 AM   #28 
  - Employers who think one's off hours are their business need to  acmavm   Nov-30-06 11:03 AM   #29 
  - Absolutely ridiculous  cwydro   Nov-30-06 11:04 AM   #30 
  - Mind-boggling hypocrisy....  Zookeeper   Nov-30-06 02:06 PM   #38 
  - Well, to be fair, they aren't recommending smoking the 2,4 - D.  yellowcanine   Nov-30-06 04:50 PM   #53 
  - This hiring policy SHOULD be challenged - and found unlawful.  Left Is Write   Nov-30-06 02:39 PM   #43 
  - wow.  ChoralScholar   Nov-30-06 02:46 PM   #47 
  - There's an insurance company in Michigan  ikojo   Nov-30-06 07:03 PM   #59 
     - Simple recourse  Oeditpus Rex   Nov-30-06 07:13 PM   #60 
 

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