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Thu Nov-16-06 02:24 PM
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| 18. I feel no shame in being a meat-eater. |
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You spend enough time going hungry as a kid, you start appreciating food wherever it might come from.
My views on animal rights are mixed. I don't support using animals for cosmetic testing at all, but I fully support animal research for medical purposes. I don't particularly *like* the big industrial farms, but I understand why they exist. I get pretty PO'd at the local crazies who show pictures of horribly deformed and mutilated animals to little kids in order to scare them away from eating meat--but I feel the exact same repulsion and anger toward to anti-choice crazies who show kids photographs of aborted fetuses. I don't like people traumatizing my kid. *shrugs*
I've taken the life of an animal that I intended to eat. I worked for several years in a poultry production plant, and saw precisely what the process was for killing chickens and turkeys. I know where my meat comes from. But I don't find it offensive enough to stop eating meat. More power to the ones who do--their bodies, their choice. My choice is my own, and I refuse to accept the notion that some people have more sophisticated "morals" than I do simply because they don't eat meat and I do.
If my son chooses on his own to become a vegetarian or vegan someday, I'll support him. I'll make sure to have appropriate foods available at family dinners, and I'll respect and defend his choice. But I'll also be absolutely sure that he understands that such respect has to be mutual.
There is nothing I despise more than someone attempting to impose their personal morality upon me.
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| -I have never been an animal rights kinda guy |
Taverner |
Nov-16-06 02:05 PM |
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.. |
Revolutionary_Acts04 |
Nov-16-06 02:06 PM |
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I must be bad - I didn't even get a full elipse |
Taverner |
Nov-16-06 02:08 PM |
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Evil |
Revolutionary_Acts04 |
Nov-16-06 02:11 PM |
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Does it have real simulated butter on it? |
Taverner |
Nov-16-06 02:13 PM |
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No, icky. |
Revolutionary_Acts04 |
Nov-16-06 02:14 PM |
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I think I will scoot up a chair and join you.... |
pdx_prog |
Nov-16-06 02:09 PM |
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By all means, I'll get the big bag |
Revolutionary_Acts04 |
Nov-16-06 02:13 PM |
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Humans are, generally, assholes. |
janesez |
Nov-16-06 02:08 PM |
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I dunno about animals being innocent |
Taverner |
Nov-16-06 02:09 PM |
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Me neither. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-16-06 02:11 PM |
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In truth, I contradict myself by my subject |
Taverner |
Nov-16-06 02:12 PM |
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and reason |
datasuspect |
Nov-16-06 02:13 PM |
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But raccoons have opposable thumbs |
Taverner |
Nov-16-06 02:16 PM |
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and they don't taste half bad either! |
datasuspect |
Nov-16-06 02:16 PM |
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Even with their opposable thumbs, raccoons still can't work a cell phone very well... |
kmla |
Nov-16-06 03:30 PM |
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It's the math part that seperates us. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-16-06 02:31 PM |
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We're good at weasling out of things. that's what separates us from the animals. |
primate1 |
Nov-16-06 02:52 PM |
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As Dennis Leary once said... |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-16-06 02:09 PM |
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shit, it's top of the food chain for me |
datasuspect |
Nov-16-06 02:11 PM |
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We're only top of the food chain because of our civilization. |
Kutjara |
Nov-16-06 02:47 PM |
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big difference |
datasuspect |
Nov-16-06 02:56 PM |
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In theory, yes. |
Kutjara |
Nov-16-06 03:01 PM |
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you'd be surprised how much of a motivator hunger is |
datasuspect |
Nov-16-06 03:11 PM |
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Soylent Green!! |
madinmaryland |
Nov-16-06 02:59 PM |
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I will not comment on that. |
RebelOne |
Nov-16-06 02:12 PM |
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I feel no shame in being a meat-eater. |
oktoberain |
Nov-16-06 02:24 PM |
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best. post. about. this. topic. ever. |
datasuspect |
Nov-16-06 02:28 PM |
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Not in my experience, sorry. |
baby_mouse |
Nov-16-06 02:43 PM |
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Obviously you haven't been accosted by the more militant members of PETA |
oktoberain |
Nov-16-06 02:56 PM |
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all i gotta ask is |
VforVicarious |
Nov-16-06 03:01 PM |
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No. I haven't. |
baby_mouse |
Nov-16-06 03:14 PM |
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Ohhhhhh, reeeeallllyyyyy...broadbrush, much? |
flvegan |
Nov-16-06 02:50 PM |
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you proved my point |
datasuspect |
Nov-16-06 02:54 PM |
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No, actually |
flvegan |
Nov-16-06 03:02 PM |
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hard to see that through the gobs of personal attack |
datasuspect |
Nov-16-06 03:09 PM |
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I hear you there |
Taverner |
Nov-16-06 03:02 PM |
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Good post! |
BikeWriter |
Nov-16-06 03:20 PM |
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Logic might suggest that |
flvegan |
Nov-16-06 02:29 PM |
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. |
Midlodemocrat |
Nov-16-06 02:31 PM |
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i agree |
buddhamama |
Nov-16-06 02:33 PM |
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Yes, but how would that affect the farmers |
oktoberain |
Nov-16-06 02:48 PM |
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Hey, climb off the fucking ledge, k? |
flvegan |
Nov-16-06 02:59 PM |
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Most people consider opinions that are contrary to their own |
oktoberain |
Nov-16-06 03:03 PM |
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Batshit crazy |
flvegan |
Nov-16-06 03:08 PM |
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I've heard that stat |
Taverner |
Nov-16-06 02:55 PM |
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Hey, who said you have to? |
flvegan |
Nov-16-06 03:06 PM |
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Very Buddhist reply |
Taverner |
Nov-16-06 03:09 PM |
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Heh heh... |
flvegan |
Nov-16-06 03:12 PM |
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Not to pick too fine a point here, but... |
Tyrone Slothrop |
Nov-16-06 03:53 PM |
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I think it's possible to care a lot about both. Edit |
Pithlet |
Nov-16-06 02:50 PM |
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But my argument is that we can't really empically state that |
Taverner |
Nov-16-06 02:59 PM |
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See my edit if you didn't catch it already. |
Pithlet |
Nov-16-06 03:03 PM |
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Agreed. I think an emperical examination of our ethics is in order |
Taverner |
Nov-16-06 03:06 PM |
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Your chicken statement is untrue. |
flvegan |
Nov-16-06 03:16 PM |
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True - I guess the better qualifier would be |
Taverner |
Nov-17-06 05:01 PM |
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I want bacon |
VforVicarious |
Nov-16-06 02:59 PM |
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Oh yes, evil incarnate |
YankeyMCC |
Nov-16-06 03:08 PM |
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"I believe animals have inalienable rights in the same way humans do." |
datasuspect |
Nov-16-06 03:13 PM |
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Ah...Yup ;) |
YankeyMCC |
Nov-16-06 03:45 PM |
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I don't think you're bad... |
youthere |
Nov-16-06 03:25 PM |
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There is not enough beer in the world to make me post to this thread. |
LeftyMom |
Nov-16-06 03:26 PM |
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And if you did drink that much beer - to where you WOULD post on this thread.... |
kmla |
Nov-16-06 03:35 PM |
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Why do you see it as such an either-or thing? |
Kashka-Kat |
Nov-16-06 04:14 PM |
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I have the opposite problem. |
Oregonian |
Nov-16-06 05:15 PM |
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