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54. Thanks for starting this thread, Rational Rose
>It's the same sense of superiority that racists and sexists justify their attacks on those who are different. I'm disgusted.<

RR, I'm with you.

I think I'll stay in the lounge for awhile. It's much friendlier here. I'm doing the holiday baking tonight, and DH's gone to bed, so let's all kick our shoes off and relax!

Julie
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  -Discrimination Against Fat: The Last Acceptable Prejudice here at DU RationalRose  Dec-23-03 06:56 PM   #0 
  - There's no shortage of assholes in the world  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-23-03 06:58 PM   #1 
  - Oh what, so now we're picking on assholes?  HEyHEY   Dec-23-03 07:35 PM   #16 
     - LOL-Assholes are people too!  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 07:39 PM   #18 
        - I belong to a group called petoa  HEyHEY   Dec-23-03 07:54 PM   #20 
  - I totally agree with you.  Rainbowreflect   Dec-23-03 06:58 PM   #2 
  - "Well, I only eat when I'm hungry and I'm the perfect weight" says DUer  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 07:02 PM   #7 
     - O gross!  FloridaJudy   Dec-23-03 09:35 PM   #42 
     - They're problems go deeper than just hating fat people  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 09:45 PM   #43 
     - He's not perfect. He's borderline FAT.  BiggJawn   Dec-23-03 11:03 PM   #52 
  - How do they cost us money ?  TrueAmerican   Dec-23-03 06:59 PM   #3 
  - Yeah, same lame argument used against smokers...  BiggJawn   Dec-23-03 11:08 PM   #53 
  - Wait a minute.....  Snow   Dec-23-03 07:00 PM   #4 
  - and everyone knows if diabetics ate better and hypertensives did yoga...  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-23-03 07:01 PM   #6 
     - Yes, the judgementalism abounds...  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 07:06 PM   #10 
     - no  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-23-03 07:08 PM   #11 
        - Thanks but with Will not here and the a-holes coming out of the woodwork  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 07:11 PM   #12 
     - and skinny men just ate.  camero   Dec-24-03 04:58 PM   #105 
     - Exactly--again. NSMA, you amaze me.  blondeatlast   Dec-26-03 07:58 AM   #134 
     - I'm insulin dependent and I hear that ad nauseum.  blondeatlast   Dec-26-03 08:01 AM   #135 
     - Yes, and doncha know that if we were  liberalhistorian   Dec-26-03 06:08 PM   #225 
  - Overweight people don't all want to be that way  ayeshahaqqiqa   Dec-23-03 07:01 PM   #5 
  - People should just chill out and go get to a buffet somewhere  fishguy   Dec-23-03 07:02 PM   #8 
  - I was diagnosed with underactive thyroid  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 07:04 PM   #9 
  - Why on earth would you care about the opinions of people that stupid?  Rowdyboy   Dec-23-03 07:22 PM   #13 
  - it still hurts, no matter who says it.  toddzilla   Dec-23-03 07:31 PM   #14 
  - And people in GD buy the whole American ideal  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 07:38 PM   #17 
  - It's easy to say "why care"  Kanary   Dec-25-03 10:38 PM   #113 
  - Unless their name ends with USH  DS1   Dec-23-03 07:31 PM   #15 
  - Thanks, Rose, for starting this thread.  southerngirlwriter   Dec-23-03 07:52 PM   #19 
  - here's one way to look at it...  dfong63   Dec-23-03 07:57 PM   #21 
  - You are sooo completely right! Control!  Kanary   Dec-25-03 10:46 PM   #114 
     - Kanary...  OaktownGrrl   Dec-26-03 12:16 PM   #167 
  - Fat hatred is a real problem in the US and  ikojo   Dec-23-03 08:00 PM   #22 
  - Obesity is also a real problem in the US  Wonk   Dec-23-03 08:14 PM   #25 
  - I hope you are not saying that it is OK  ikojo   Dec-23-03 08:20 PM   #27 
     - re: Atkins or whatever other diet, and how young is too young  Wonk   Dec-23-03 08:32 PM   #31 
     - I'd like to see that 9-y-o on a bicycle.  BiggJawn   Dec-23-03 11:14 PM   #55 
     - Please, please, tell this girl's parents to get her off that damn Atkins  MadHound   Dec-24-03 02:29 PM   #93 
     - Have you seen the daughter??  TrogL   Dec-24-03 06:39 PM   #110 
     - Poor kid  oldcoot   Dec-24-03 05:50 PM   #107 
  - Yup, she's a future anorexic  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 08:46 PM   #34 
  - What That Father Is Doing Borders on Child Abuse (IMHO)  CO Liberal   Dec-23-03 11:29 PM   #61 
  - You gotta stay out of GD!!  YellowRubberDuckie   Dec-23-03 08:04 PM   #23 
  - Please introduce me to such men.  ikojo   Dec-23-03 08:12 PM   #24 
  - Yeah it's pretty sad over there.  bunnyj   Dec-23-03 08:20 PM   #26 
  - Ten or twenty years ago they would have said  ikojo   Dec-23-03 08:22 PM   #28 
     - You are so right about the homosexuality thing.  bunnyj   Dec-23-03 08:26 PM   #30 
  - I agree with you.  rbnyc   Dec-23-03 08:22 PM   #29 
  - Yeah, I just got back from that discussion.  scarlet_owl   Dec-23-03 08:41 PM   #32 
  - Well we're all looking for ways to show that we're morally  bunnyj   Dec-23-03 08:45 PM   #33 
  - I was never overweight until a few years ago but would NEVER  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 08:49 PM   #35 
  - It's the same folks who think that drug addicts are weak-willed  Argumentus   Dec-23-03 08:50 PM   #36 
  - And what's sad is that a couple of people, who I otherwise respected,  bunnyj   Dec-23-03 08:57 PM   #37 
     - Yes, bunnyj, folks whose posts I enjoyed I now look at differently  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 09:00 PM   #38 
        - True...  SiobhanClancy   Dec-23-03 10:20 PM   #46 
  - I think they should look in the mirror...at their whole self  dawn   Dec-23-03 09:21 PM   #39 
  - I don't understand the anger.  philosophie_en_rose   Dec-23-03 09:22 PM   #40 
  - When I last popped in here a few months back  Laszlo_Hollyfeld   Dec-23-03 09:29 PM   #41 
  - in the fatist's narrow mind,  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 10:02 PM   #44 
  - partly true  Iverson   Dec-23-03 10:15 PM   #45 
  - And the Southern prejudice, the New England prejudice  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 10:21 PM   #47 
     - It's a rite of passage.  Iverson   Dec-23-03 10:31 PM   #48 
  - Hey, sometimes I'm fat, sometimes I'm really fat, sometimes I even  mikehiggins   Dec-23-03 10:37 PM   #49 
  - Well, I would be a Queen if...  Sugarbleus   Dec-23-03 10:40 PM   #50 
  - Your idea of treatment is right on!  Kanary   Dec-25-03 11:23 PM   #116 
  - It's not just here  curse10   Dec-23-03 10:46 PM   #51 
  - Thanks for starting this thread, Rational Rose  JulieRB   Dec-23-03 11:11 PM   #54 
  - No, I hear your pain...it's no fun benig ridiculed  sleipnir   Dec-23-03 11:15 PM   #56 
  - Although I have nothing against overweight people...  Blade   Dec-23-03 11:18 PM   #57 
  - Blade, I'm not asking you to bed me, just don't rag on me....  BiggJawn   Dec-23-03 11:31 PM   #63 
  - Pop alone won't do it...  ming   Dec-26-03 04:10 PM   #215 
     - Welcome to DU!  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 04:15 PM   #217 
  - I AM FAT.  Bertha Venation   Dec-23-03 11:19 PM   #58 
  - Golly, you really ARE fat! (you can be in my club)  Argumentus   Dec-23-03 11:25 PM   #59 
  - Hat: Cherokee, NC  Bertha Venation   Dec-23-03 11:28 PM   #60 
     - STOP IT! I CAN'T TAKE ANYMORE!  Argumentus   Dec-23-03 11:32 PM   #64 
        - that's the best kind of pain, my friend....  Bertha Venation   Dec-23-03 11:36 PM   #65 
  - Those are some cute kitties!  scarlet_owl   Dec-23-03 11:31 PM   #62 
  - you realize that Richard's a member of the club, don't you?  Bertha Venation   Dec-23-03 11:37 PM   #66 
     - Heh Heh. Sounds like my cat!  scarlet_owl   Dec-24-03 02:11 PM   #92 
  - What sweet kitties!  RationalRose   Dec-24-03 12:07 AM   #68 
  - Wooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooo Bertha!!!!  Sugarbleus   Dec-24-03 12:14 AM   #70 
  - You are beautiful. Everyone's body is their own little art piece  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-24-03 11:50 AM   #74 
  - what a nice thing to say, NSMA  Bertha Venation   Dec-24-03 12:22 PM   #78 
  - Bertha  Skittles   Dec-24-03 12:03 PM   #76 
  - Skittles, that's Toby.  Bertha Venation   Dec-24-03 12:21 PM   #77 
  - Bertha, I think you are beautiful.  Rainbowreflect   Dec-24-03 01:32 PM   #88 
  - shucks  Bertha Venation   Dec-24-03 04:34 PM   #103 
  - TELL'EM, Bertha! n/t  diamondsoul   Dec-24-03 01:37 PM   #91 
  - You said it, Bertha!  Kanary   Dec-25-03 11:32 PM   #117 
  - Oh Yeah...  trekkerlass   Dec-26-03 07:27 AM   #133 
  - I just don't think its healthy...  FDRrocks   Dec-24-03 12:02 AM   #67 
  - Okay. Then I have the perfect answer for you, drunken post or not:  Bertha Venation   Dec-24-03 11:47 AM   #73 
  - Well would it be easier to say...  FDRrocks   Dec-26-03 02:36 AM   #129 
     - Not if you're a stranger or a co-worker  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 12:47 PM   #188 
  - You're wrong.  diamondsoul   Dec-24-03 12:56 PM   #82 
  - You summed up yourself at the beginning of your post  Kanary   Dec-26-03 12:13 AM   #123 
  - I do care about the personality  FDRrocks   Dec-26-03 02:41 AM   #130 
     - Of course people are sensitive! That's a *GOOD* thing  Kanary   Dec-26-03 12:46 PM   #187 
  - i just don't think people have an inherent right to judge others  OhioStateProgressive   Dec-26-03 10:13 AM   #145 
  - The mods really should lock down those threads.  classics   Dec-24-03 12:13 AM   #69 
  - Good point classic but..  Sugarbleus   Dec-24-03 12:18 AM   #71 
  - The second thread was an attempt by one of the bigots  RationalRose   Dec-24-03 12:35 AM   #72 
  - No, don't lock the threads  fortyfeetunder   Dec-24-03 01:04 PM   #83 
  - you are absolutely correct, Rose  Skittles   Dec-24-03 11:54 AM   #75 
  - Yeah, I was shocked, too.  dawn   Dec-24-03 12:30 PM   #79 
     - welcome to DU, dawn  Bertha Venation   Dec-24-03 12:38 PM   #80 
  - Wow! Wierd coincidences all over DU  diamondsoul   Dec-24-03 12:41 PM   #81 
  - You are such a contribution to DU..thanks for this post  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-24-03 01:11 PM   #84 
  - Thanks NSMA!  diamondsoul   Dec-24-03 01:35 PM   #89 
  - I had a similiar occurence for myself and my own hypocricy  jonnyblitz   Dec-24-03 01:36 PM   #90 
  - No, I think it is a common human flaw  RationalRose   Dec-25-03 09:43 PM   #111 
  - You are one of the good people  Selwynn   Dec-26-03 12:00 AM   #120 
  - The comment about overweight people being unpleasant  texasblueeyes   Dec-24-03 01:14 PM   #85 
  - "overweight people being unpleasant too look at"  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 12:08 AM   #122 
     - WTF?  OhioStateProgressive   Dec-26-03 10:17 AM   #147 
        - narrowminded?  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 12:41 PM   #182 
           - your definition of beauty is small and narrow  OhioStateProgressive   Dec-26-03 12:58 PM   #192 
  - Well if everyone were just on the Atkins diet like me....  beyurslf   Dec-24-03 01:21 PM   #86 
  - it isn't acceptable  amazona   Dec-24-03 01:25 PM   #87 
  - Isn't this the truth?  JulieRB   Dec-24-03 02:41 PM   #95 
  - What about predjudice against Southerners?  ddye   Dec-24-03 02:37 PM   #94 
  - Oh, okay  JulieRB   Dec-24-03 02:42 PM   #96 
  - Julie,  ddye   Dec-24-03 02:45 PM   #97 
  - Also not acceptable  RationalRose   Dec-24-03 03:04 PM   #98 
  - Thanks for starting this thread,  Lindsay   Dec-24-03 03:51 PM   #99 
  - Welcome to DU  Bertha Venation   Dec-24-03 04:28 PM   #102 
  - Just remember  VelmaD   Dec-24-03 04:01 PM   #100 
  - Hardly the last prejudice here  Forkboy   Dec-24-03 04:11 PM   #101 
  - I wish people would realize the obvious  WindRavenX   Dec-24-03 04:57 PM   #104 
  - a note to people of all weights  Iverson   Dec-24-03 05:14 PM   #106 
  - Just shut up and go back to your Ben and Jerry's Chunky Monkey, tubby.  kixot   Dec-24-03 05:53 PM   #108 
  - Fat bottomed girls, you make the rockin' world go 'round.  Paragon   Dec-24-03 05:56 PM   #109 
  - I knew that there was something about you I liked!  Lady Freedom   Dec-25-03 10:20 PM   #112 
  - I'm overweight AND Catholic...  nini   Dec-25-03 10:59 PM   #115 
  - Obesity and America  solinvictus   Dec-25-03 11:35 PM   #118 
  - Yeah my mom has a condition - has nothing to do with eating too much...  Selwynn   Dec-25-03 11:59 PM   #119 
  - first  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 12:01 AM   #121 
  - It's not about your "empathy."  Selwynn   Dec-26-03 12:20 AM   #124 
     - "who happen to come"  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 12:32 AM   #125 
        - I say again -- and listen carefully this time.  Selwynn   Dec-26-03 01:16 PM   #199 
        - That's not always true...  dawn   Dec-26-03 03:38 PM   #211 
  - OK, then tell me how to deal with this  TrogL   Dec-26-03 12:41 AM   #126 
  - I have been both underweight and overweight  eileen_d   Dec-26-03 12:55 AM   #127 
  - They best not take up part of MY seat on a 12 hour flight.  Maine Mary   Dec-26-03 02:32 AM   #128 
  - I would say your complaint is with the airline  eileen_d   Dec-26-03 03:13 AM   #131 
  - I thought of that  Maine Mary   Dec-26-03 03:22 AM   #132 
     - There's a time for astonishment, and that ain't it.  Iverson   Dec-26-03 09:13 AM   #138 
        - Well said, Iverson.  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 11:07 AM   #159 
           - Smokers often smoke to stay thin  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 11:20 AM   #162 
              - Ei Yi Yi  Maine Mary   Dec-26-03 04:42 PM   #222 
  - Oh, boy  JulieRB   Dec-26-03 08:22 AM   #137 
  - Well stated!  ming   Dec-26-03 04:38 PM   #221 
  - Mary  chefgirl   Dec-26-03 09:45 AM   #143 
  - terrible  OhioStateProgressive   Dec-26-03 10:22 AM   #150 
  - "Time for a new bill?" Are you serious?  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 10:34 AM   #153 
  - I'm going to introduce a bill that only blonds with blue eyes  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 10:39 AM   #154 
     - Hey, Rose, let's start our own airline!  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 11:04 AM   #158 
        - Actually, I would like to extend that to all people  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 11:13 AM   #160 
           - sounds good to me  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 12:22 PM   #172 
  - It's the airlines' duty to create seats that accomodate all size people  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-26-03 01:10 PM   #196 
  - Shocking Maine Mary!  ploppy   Dec-26-03 01:28 PM   #204 
  - How do fat people cost you money?  oldcoot   Dec-26-03 03:11 PM   #209 
  - I feel for you re: the plane ride, but the rest of your post? huh?  dawn   Dec-26-03 03:48 PM   #212 
  - Yeah I agree it sucks, but not only the fat ones  Kamika   Dec-26-03 08:14 AM   #136 
  - why are MOST people fat Kamika?  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 09:14 AM   #139 
     - why do MOST people have epilespy, ryan?  Iverson   Dec-26-03 09:20 AM   #140 
     - medically qualified to know why people are fat...  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 09:28 AM   #141 
        - Dr. Private_Ryan reveals his glaring ignorance  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 10:06 AM   #144 
        - eating less doesn't slow your metabolism  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 12:18 PM   #168 
           - You still don't acknowledge the poverty component  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 12:37 PM   #180 
              - it sucks being poor for a lot of reasons  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 01:03 PM   #193 
        - Ignorance, too, is a choice  BareKnuckledLiberal   Dec-26-03 10:28 AM   #151 
        - let's explore this, ryan  Iverson   Dec-26-03 11:45 AM   #163 
        - "Of course you can still be fat, it's your choice."  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 12:21 PM   #170 
           - hmmm...  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 12:33 PM   #178 
              - I beg your pardon?  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 12:38 PM   #181 
                 - nope  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 01:05 PM   #194 
     - nazis worried about "health" too(nt)  OhioStateProgressive   Dec-26-03 10:15 AM   #146 
     - Yup-and it lead to the twisted Eugenics program  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 10:18 AM   #148 
        - prejudice against the fat is nothing less than fascism  OhioStateProgressive   Dec-26-03 10:20 AM   #149 
        - yes, it is less than fascism  Iverson   Dec-26-03 11:49 AM   #164 
           - building a super race is fascism  OhioStateProgressive   Dec-26-03 12:04 PM   #166 
              - sure  Iverson   Dec-26-03 12:20 PM   #169 
                 - of course it is 'more'  OhioStateProgressive   Dec-26-03 12:27 PM   #175 
        - no diet nazi here at all  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 12:22 PM   #171 
           - So an underactive thyroid is no excuse for gaining weight?  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 12:42 PM   #183 
           - whatever  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 01:11 PM   #197 
           - Who here has said, "It's not my fault that I gained weight" -- ??  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 12:44 PM   #184 
     - what does that have to do with anything??  Kamika   Dec-26-03 10:31 AM   #152 
     - People had better stop getting pregnant.  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 11:55 AM   #165 
     - Cite, please  JulieRB   Dec-26-03 12:26 PM   #174 
     - Yes, Ryan--cite?  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 12:30 PM   #177 
     - what if I can?  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 12:45 PM   #186 
        - for chrissakes, just post a cite  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 12:48 PM   #189 
           - and here's the cite  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 01:14 PM   #198 
              - Nice try. Do you realize that this issue is not black & white?  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 04:32 PM   #219 
     - MY "OBESITY RELATED CLAIMS" FROM 2003  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 12:35 PM   #179 
     - for every one person who can't lose weight  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 01:07 PM   #195 
        - how about a cite on this?  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 04:14 PM   #216 
           - It's all a reflection of prejudice, and  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 04:18 PM   #218 
              - Well, I have prejudices too, Rose.  Bertha Venation   Dec-26-03 04:38 PM   #220 
     - Acceptance and awareness are often the first steps to handling an issue  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-26-03 01:17 PM   #200 
  - I had to get out of GD after seeing the fat-bashing  RadFemFL   Dec-26-03 09:36 AM   #142 
  - How Can You Expect Empathy from Someone Who Can't Imagine?  Crisco   Dec-26-03 10:45 AM   #155 
  - I'm just horrified that others don't see the toxicity of their attitudes  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 10:56 AM   #157 
     - The RW Holds No Monopoly on Prejudice  Crisco   Dec-26-03 11:20 AM   #161 
     - oh, so there's nothing else but obesity and anorexia  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 12:25 PM   #173 
        - a difference that you just missed  Iverson   Dec-26-03 12:28 PM   #176 
        - medical disorder my ass  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 12:52 PM   #190 
           - I can name my Mom's doctor  Selwynn   Dec-26-03 01:23 PM   #201 
           - and I'm the offensive one  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 01:59 PM   #207 
              - Yes you are the offensive one.  Selwynn   Dec-26-03 02:09 PM   #208 
              - actually you are the offensive one  Cheswick   Dec-26-03 04:01 PM   #213 
                 - whateva  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 04:04 PM   #214 
           - Well the weight loss industry is the champion of bullshit gimmicks  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-26-03 01:27 PM   #203 
           - Kobe inviting that girl to his room was a "lifestyle" choice too!  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-26-03 01:40 PM   #206 
           - Your inconsistency is showing, ryan.  Iverson   Dec-26-03 03:13 PM   #210 
        - It's easier to hide anorexia bec. it's more acceptable to be too thin than  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 12:52 PM   #191 
  - I'm with you there.  LWolf   Dec-26-03 10:47 AM   #156 
  - I found the obesity threads in General Discussion disgusting.  annonymous   Dec-26-03 12:45 PM   #185 
  - I want to say this again, because I'm sick of the attitude on this thread  Selwynn   Dec-26-03 01:25 PM   #202 
  - Good post  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 01:29 PM   #205 
  - I APOLOGIZE TO ANYONE I HAVE OFFENDED  Maine Mary   Dec-26-03 05:27 PM   #223 
  - Your words speak for you, Mary  chefgirl   Dec-26-03 06:21 PM   #226 
  - Actually I see more derogatory comments about skinny people here  mitchum   Dec-26-03 06:03 PM   #224 
  - locking thread  Moderator   Dec-26-03 06:27 PM   #227 
 

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