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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-28-06 01:44 AM
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16. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Edited on Wed Jun-28-06 01:48 AM by u4ic
don't get me on about the oilsands.

Destructive as hell, and the cost to produce this oil -'dirty oil' - will be monumental, both on a monetary and ecological standpoint.

Add in the factor that Ft Mac has more than doubled in size since I lived there - 1997. In less than a decade, it's doubled. Yes, all because of the oilsands.

However, Alberta oversees infrastructure - and hasn't been planning or budgeting money towards the changes needed up there - it's a city that hasn't had a lot of improvements infrastructure wise, and you can imagine the once town now turned 3rd largest city in the province, using roads for a city half the size. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2005/04/04/ed-f...

The highway up to Ft Mac from here is notoriously treacherous. It resulted in this:http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/2005/05/23/ed_cr... (having travelled that highway a number of times, it could get scary, especially when dealing with the huge logging or transport trucks. Some areas of the highway barely have any shoulders - it's a 2 lane highway for the most part, 4 in some areas.

How about the health problems associated with it:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2006/03/10/ed-f...
http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/national/2006/05/05/for...

Also, crime has risen 25% in one year. Why? Young, transient males who work on the rigs.

And the 'economy is so hot' :puke: the average price of a one bedroom apartment, unfurnished, is $1600 per month. Average homes are around $440,000. IF you can find vacancy. http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/03/15/work...

It's NORTHERN ALBERTA, THERE'S PISS ALL TO DO THERE, and the winters are fricking cold! It was -40c/-40F almost every night in the winter, at least when I was there.

I've gotta laugh, however - McDonalds had raised the rate to $14/hr last I heard, to try and keep workers. (unfortunately, that only means, before taxes, f/t they would be making $2240 per month. Average 1 bedroom - $1600 per month. Even at $14/hr, it still just even begin to cut it.

The oil companies are also bringing in lower cost workers (ie from South America and China) so they don't have to pay as much. :eyes:

It doesn't help that we have a Conservative cretin, running the province. He's all for big business, however, he's not getting the fair share of royalties for the province - yep, as if they need help. Subsidizing fucking oil companies... :nuke:

It's all a big fucking mess. We need better leadership in this province, and tight environmental standards. Pffft..if that's ever going to happen. :grr:
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  -Hands Up! Who's seen "An Inconvenient Truth"? u4ic  Jun-27-06 11:34 PM   #0 
  - I've been trying, but it's not playing anywhere near where I live. *sigh*  Rhiannon12866   Jun-27-06 11:43 PM   #1 
  - It's just been released  u4ic   Jun-28-06 12:03 AM   #2 
     - Well, I just looked again and it's now playing in Vermont. I live in NY.  Rhiannon12866   Jun-28-06 06:59 AM   #21 
        - If you're close to the border  shugh514   Jun-28-06 08:03 AM   #22 
        - Thanks! I'm about an hour north of Albany.  Rhiannon12866   Jun-28-06 08:09 AM   #24 
           - Just got back  shugh514   Jun-28-06 09:52 PM   #40 
              - I'm sorry that I'm so late in replying to you.  Rhiannon12866   Jul-02-06 01:37 AM   #46 
                 - I hope I'm proven wrong  shugh514   Jul-02-06 06:43 AM   #48 
                    - Thank you for that thread.  Rhiannon12866   Jul-06-06 11:37 AM   #52 
        - Stay safe!  u4ic   Jun-28-06 12:50 PM   #33 
  - I saw it recently  MikeH   Jun-28-06 12:04 AM   #3 
  - I agree, it is overwhelming  u4ic   Jun-28-06 12:49 AM   #5 
  - I'll buy it on DVD.  Placebo   Jun-28-06 12:09 AM   #4 
  - So will I  u4ic   Jun-28-06 12:49 AM   #6 
  - It hasn't opened here yet.  RevCheesehead   Jun-28-06 12:50 AM   #7 
  - Well, that's understandable!  u4ic   Jun-28-06 01:05 AM   #11 
  - I saw it  Reverend_Smitty   Jun-28-06 12:51 AM   #8 
  - True!  u4ic   Jun-28-06 01:12 AM   #13 
     - I've never heard of him...  Reverend_Smitty   Jun-28-06 01:21 AM   #15 
  - I haven't seen it yet.  Neoma   Jun-28-06 12:52 AM   #9 
  - How do you feel about the "oil sand" in northern Alberta?  speedoo   Jun-28-06 12:56 AM   #10 
  - Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr  u4ic   Jun-28-06 01:44 AM   #16 
     - Wow.  speedoo   Jun-28-06 10:27 AM   #30 
        - No need to apologize  u4ic   Jun-28-06 12:46 PM   #32 
        - Here are a couple of links  u4ic   Jun-28-06 02:19 PM   #38 
  - Every time I look in the mirror  HEyHEY   Jun-28-06 01:08 AM   #12 
  - Have you tried one  u4ic   Jun-28-06 02:08 AM   #20 
  - Checking in!  LSK   Jun-28-06 01:20 AM   #14 
  - : )  u4ic   Jun-28-06 01:56 AM   #19 
  - Nope  billyskank   Jun-28-06 01:45 AM   #17 
  - Hey billy!  u4ic   Jun-28-06 01:55 AM   #18 
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  - yo.  TheFriendlyAnarchist   Jun-28-06 08:13 AM   #25 
  - I have  Skittles   Jun-28-06 09:32 AM   #26 
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  - Me!  ginbarn   Jun-28-06 10:11 AM   #29 
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  - Interesting how he mentioned  u4ic   Jun-28-06 10:07 PM   #42 
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  - Me!  mdmc   Jul-02-06 11:08 AM   #49 
  - I would have  catbert836   Jul-02-06 11:11 AM   #50 
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