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Reply #55: Can I assume you'd be open-minded if he used a different epithet? [View All]

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55. Can I assume you'd be open-minded if he used a different epithet?
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 09:05 PM by 94114_San_Francisco
Once again, this begs the question: Would you be as open-minded to racial (or other) epithets? Please note that I've tried to extend to you nothing but civility and respect - I'm disappointed you couldn't do likewise. :shrug:

Thanks for the asinine accusation that my position is equivalent to a close-minded, judgmental racist. That was helpful.

Nice strategy, btw. Walk away, hide the thread, unable or unwilling to empathize with gay people (but willing to add insult to injury).

What a pity, that more often than not, this is the level of discourse regarding GLBT issues at DU. :wtf:

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   No, it isn't  reyd reid reed   Jun-23-06 04:03 AM   #11 
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   Uh-huh!  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-24-06 06:52 PM   #62 
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   Ignorance  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 02:57 PM   #24 
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      It *might* prove bigotry  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 03:11 PM   #29 
         Homophobia IS bigotry. Why would you think otherwise?  Misunderestimator   Jun-23-06 03:13 PM   #30 
            Homophobia is a phobia  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 03:19 PM   #31 
               There are many definitions of homophobia. "Fear of" is just one of them.  Misunderestimator   Jun-23-06 03:40 PM   #32 
                  So I'll return to the previous question  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 03:46 PM   #33 
                  He used the term FAG as an insult. It would be exactly like using N*****  Misunderestimator   Jun-23-06 03:55 PM   #34 
                  I dunno  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 04:15 PM   #35 
                     You posted "Can you prove homophobia based on one word?"  Misunderestimator   Jun-23-06 04:23 PM   #36 
                        I agree  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 04:44 PM   #38 
                           An insulting word is bigoted if it applies to an entire group.  Misunderestimator   Jun-23-06 05:12 PM   #40 
                              The degree of any insult depends on how it's taken  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 05:20 PM   #41 
                                 This thread is about someone using a bigoted term insulting to homosexuals  Misunderestimator   Jun-23-06 05:26 PM   #42 
                                    If one chooses to take them as such, yes  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 05:58 PM   #45 
                                       You choose not to take n***** and fag as bigoted insults?  Misunderestimator   Jun-23-06 06:03 PM   #46 
                                       I wish not to make generalized condemnations  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 06:14 PM   #47 
                                       That is your choice...  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-24-06 06:58 PM   #63 
                  Gee, Oed, you really got me thinking with that.  Sapphocrat   Jun-28-06 07:48 PM   #71 
                  I think this sums up the argument nicely.  94114_San_Francisco   Jun-23-06 06:54 PM   #50 
      Hi Neighbor.  94114_San_Francisco   Jun-23-06 04:42 PM   #37 
         Because it's something little boys do  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 04:46 PM   #39 
            It's time for them to grow up.  94114_San_Francisco   Jun-23-06 05:34 PM   #43 
               Sure, it's time  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 05:53 PM   #44 
                  So why all the hair-splitting regarding the offensiveness of "Fag"?  94114_San_Francisco   Jun-23-06 06:37 PM   #48 
                  I didn't say it *wasn't* homophobic  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 06:53 PM   #49 
                     Proof? This need for proof lands like an excuse, imho.  94114_San_Francisco   Jun-23-06 07:13 PM   #51 
                     'That's proof enough for me'  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 07:32 PM   #52 
                        Oh please, Oeditpus Rex.  94114_San_Francisco   Jun-23-06 07:44 PM   #53 
                           You mean by *your* definition  Oeditpus Rex   Jun-23-06 08:12 PM   #54 
                              Can I assume you'd be open-minded if he used a different epithet?  94114_San_Francisco   Jun-23-06 08:53 PM   #55 
                              Generalizing? How is it generalizing to say that one man who used a slur  Misunderestimator   Jun-23-06 09:58 PM   #57 
                     Well it seems ESPN thinks it is homophobic!  foreigncorrespondent   Jun-24-06 07:03 PM   #64 
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