You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #25: There's always a potential for abuse. [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #22
25. There's always a potential for abuse.
But the more capitalistic model invites abuse by a small, elite few at the top of the food change rather than by some mythical layer of 'lazy masses, trying to get something for nothing.'

I know that Welfare fraud exists, and I find it odious. But I also know that the numbers reported in popular media are completely out of perspective to the Gestalt of the situation. Massively, - substantially more monies in the system are lost from abuses of the wealthy, such as the electricity issues that were used to destroy Gray Davis in California, than are ever trickled away by a few scams planned by the pathologically indolent. It's like complaining about a hangnail while your carotid artery is in hemorrhage.

The people milking the system are at the top. It's an evil sleight of hand they use to deflect our attention to crow about the 'riff raff' at the dregs of society trying to get the taxpayer to give them a free ride.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
  -"I'm far left of most DUers" WTF?!?? Blue-Jay  Nov-13-03 05:59 PM   #0 
  - Great post.  nothingshocksmeanymore   Nov-13-03 06:01 PM   #1 
  - Don't worry,  Blue-Jay   Nov-13-03 06:13 PM   #7 
  - Thank you!  Padraig18   Nov-13-03 06:02 PM   #2 
  - Its not better necessarily  youngred   Nov-13-03 06:02 PM   #3 
  - There are some here at DU who are even more conservative than...  DrWeird   Nov-13-03 06:02 PM   #4 
  - if your not wearing sack cloth  Uzybone   Nov-13-03 06:10 PM   #5 
  - oh I see  Forkboy   Nov-13-03 06:31 PM   #9 
  - I think we rate how far right we are aswell  Kamika   Nov-13-03 06:13 PM   #6 
  - as usual, Phil Ochs has the answer...  CanuckAmok   Nov-13-03 06:19 PM   #8 
  - all left  salinen   Nov-13-03 06:46 PM   #10 
     - I think that there are *some*, if not *many* that would disagree.  Blue-Jay   Nov-13-03 07:01 PM   #11 
        - Does "farther left" = "better liberal"?  WeirdSceneGoldmine   Nov-13-03 07:45 PM   #12 
           - Why do you say  Forkboy   Nov-13-03 07:48 PM   #13 
           - Because the extreme FAR left is too far left  WeirdSceneGoldmine   Nov-13-03 08:18 PM   #15 
              - um Ok  youngred   Nov-13-03 08:20 PM   #17 
              - Thanks. Now look at the state of Soviet USSR  WeirdSceneGoldmine   Nov-13-03 08:50 PM   #21 
                 - Excuse me. The former USSR was a Communist country  SOteric   Nov-13-03 08:57 PM   #23 
                 - My bad  WeirdSceneGoldmine   Nov-13-03 09:32 PM   #30 
                    - You might be better off using  SOteric   Nov-13-03 09:42 PM   #31 
                       - That's very possible but healthcare is only one piece of the puzzle  WeirdSceneGoldmine   Nov-13-03 09:54 PM   #32 
                 - Communism in the old USSR became ...  rasputin1952   Nov-13-03 10:38 PM   #37 
              - In my opinion you're thinking about this from the wrong viewpoint  SOteric   Nov-13-03 08:35 PM   #19 
                 - You have some good points.  WeirdSceneGoldmine   Nov-13-03 08:55 PM   #22 
                 - There's always a potential for abuse.  SOteric   Nov-13-03 09:05 PM   #25 
                 - I don't permit the 'right-wing media' to influence my thinking  WeirdSceneGoldmine   Nov-13-03 09:23 PM   #27 
                    - That was the *original* topic of this thread, but it's been tree'd  SOteric   Nov-13-03 09:31 PM   #29 
                       - I mean well  WeirdSceneGoldmine   Nov-13-03 09:56 PM   #33 
           - "too far left"?  Blue-Jay   Nov-13-03 08:18 PM   #16 
              - I hear you and mostly agree  WeirdSceneGoldmine   Nov-13-03 08:59 PM   #24 
  - I'm on the left...  Sting   Nov-13-03 07:49 PM   #14 
  - Well put  GTRMAN   Nov-13-03 08:26 PM   #18 
  - "Left" is a measure of economic standpoints, many often forget this..  sleipnir   Nov-13-03 08:48 PM   #20 
  - sleipnir~ a serious ?  maddezmom   Nov-13-03 09:10 PM   #26 
     - Humm...clarify a bit please....  sleipnir   Nov-13-03 09:24 PM   #28 
        - ok  maddezmom   Nov-13-03 10:15 PM   #35 
           - Ok, here it is  sleipnir   Nov-13-03 10:33 PM   #36 
  - Don't be thrown off by a lot of the liberal smokescreen distractions...  mitchum   Nov-13-03 10:06 PM   #34 
  - I noticed it too  angee_is_mad   Nov-13-03 11:10 PM   #38 

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC