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Thu Nov-06-03 03:45 PM
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| 49. He is a mawkish, sentimental hack... |
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"A.I." was trash from beginning to end... He had one good movie in him "Schindler's List" and even that had an uplifting ending. He's like Frank Capra without the thoughtfulness.
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| -Film admirers: Just admit that Steven Spielberg's the best, OK? |
DerekG |
Nov-06-03 02:49 PM |
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I can prove you wrong- |
Nailzberg |
Nov-06-03 02:53 PM |
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Don't forget |
picus9 |
Nov-06-03 03:02 PM |
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and Hook, and Temple of Doom, and |
Nailzberg |
Nov-06-03 03:09 PM |
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Those were disappointing movies... |
DerekG |
Nov-06-03 03:17 PM |
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Well, if he's gonna be the best, you can't gloss over a decade. |
Nailzberg |
Nov-06-03 03:19 PM |
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8 years of crappy films |
dirk |
Nov-06-03 04:50 PM |
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"Crappy", no... |
DerekG |
Nov-06-03 06:48 PM |
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Actually I like both those films a lot |
dirk |
Nov-07-03 09:05 AM |
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1941=one of the worst |
bif |
Nov-06-03 03:08 PM |
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Although I thought Robert Stack was great in it. |
Nailzberg |
Nov-06-03 03:10 PM |
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he's the marshallow syrup on the sundae of cinema |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 02:54 PM |
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"Sugary Swill" -- yes, I suppose "Schindler's List" was too saccharine. |
Bertha Venation |
Nov-06-03 02:59 PM |
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so one overpraised movie makes up for a career of boredom? |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 03:02 PM |
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different strokes, bud. eom |
Bertha Venation |
Nov-06-03 03:09 PM |
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I supposed you liked "Barry Lyndon"? |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 03:44 PM |
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it had its moments, but DOCTOR STRANGELOVE |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 03:46 PM |
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Schindlers List |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 03:59 PM |
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Eyes Wide Shut was crap - but wait till Spielberg's final film |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 04:00 PM |
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because "there's no business like Shoah business" according... |
mitchum |
Nov-06-03 10:13 PM |
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I have never been more disappointed in a movie than when I watched |
Wetzelbill |
Nov-06-03 03:48 PM |
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Do you know why you were disappointed? |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:01 PM |
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I agree with you about "Duel"... |
mitchum |
Nov-06-03 09:39 PM |
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A.I. |
Robb |
Nov-06-03 02:57 PM |
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I forgot that one |
Nailzberg |
Nov-06-03 02:58 PM |
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what a temptation -- I'll bite |
56kid |
Nov-06-03 02:57 PM |
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ah, he made the glorious Alphaville with Eddie Constantine |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 03:05 PM |
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more Alphaville |
56kid |
Nov-06-03 03:14 PM |
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yeah, I thought that was the most brilliant bit |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 03:17 PM |
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More glorious Godard |
emulatorloo |
Nov-06-03 03:16 PM |
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Fritz Lang is hilarious in CONTEMPT |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 03:18 PM |
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and when he |
56kid |
Nov-06-03 03:28 PM |
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Godard is France's "enfant terrible" of new wave cinema |
dback |
Nov-06-03 04:32 PM |
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No quarrel from here. |
Bertha Venation |
Nov-06-03 02:58 PM |
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He totally sucks ok |
Kamika |
Nov-06-03 02:59 PM |
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I loathe Spielberg with a passion.... |
vi5 |
Nov-06-03 03:05 PM |
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re: Orson Welles |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 03:09 PM |
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Magnificent Ambersons, too n/t |
Nailzberg |
Nov-06-03 03:11 PM |
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Go watch some Kurasawa films and then compare |
Az |
Nov-06-03 03:11 PM |
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You know, that's just what I'd expect a Kucinich supporter to say... |
Garage Queen |
Nov-06-03 03:16 PM |
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yeah, if you want emotion, "IKIRU" slaps Spielberg |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 03:19 PM |
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Madadayo too |
Wetzelbill |
Nov-06-03 03:50 PM |
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This is limited to American filmmakers, Az... |
DerekG |
Nov-06-03 03:21 PM |
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if you want to talk pure Americana |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 03:23 PM |
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which America? |
56kid |
Nov-06-03 03:36 PM |
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Kurasawa is completely formulatic |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 03:42 PM |
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so the original is a one trick pony, but the rip off is pure gold? |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 03:47 PM |
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I love Kurasawa |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:27 PM |
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enough with the cocksucking references, geez! |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 04:30 PM |
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What you don't like my drugged out sadistic freak |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:31 PM |
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the next Jeff Foxworthy, ladies and gentlemen. |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 04:31 PM |
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That's the word... |
BlackVelvetElvis |
Nov-06-03 07:17 PM |
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OK |
TheBlob |
Nov-06-03 03:18 PM |
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I look at your post, and imagine David Cross saying those words |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 03:21 PM |
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Yeah, I don't see that happening. |
TheBlob |
Nov-06-03 03:25 PM |
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Close Encounters remembered 100 years from now?!? |
ACK |
Nov-06-03 03:55 PM |
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Raiders of the Lost Ark is easily the greatest film |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:17 PM |
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so you're saying RAIDERS has moral weight? |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 04:19 PM |
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No, I am saying that "moral weight" has nothing to do |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:22 PM |
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I don't like morals or messages in movies, I like to be transported away |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 04:27 PM |
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So you think Dr. Stangelove sucks? |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:30 PM |
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i don't mind a message when its wrapped in brilliant comedy |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 04:31 PM |
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Joking? |
TheBlob |
Nov-06-03 05:32 PM |
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Don't Forget the horrid adaptation of The Color Purple |
emulatorloo |
Nov-06-03 03:28 PM |
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The problem with Welles |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 03:35 PM |
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No question - Spielberg is the best director alive today. |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 03:32 PM |
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or maybe c) is just left cold by all his work and sees no joy in it |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 03:33 PM |
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Better than anything else I can think of. |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 03:37 PM |
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He is not the greatest director alive today. |
Nailzberg |
Nov-06-03 03:35 PM |
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Hitchcock was "bubble gum" too. |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 03:36 PM |
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Hitchcock was a package of Red Hots |
emulatorloo |
Nov-06-03 03:39 PM |
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North by Northwest an "important" film? |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 03:41 PM |
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Hitchcock wasn't going for "important" |
Nailzberg |
Nov-06-03 04:21 PM |
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NO HE ISN'T |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:25 PM |
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And he also fails at it. |
Nailzberg |
Nov-06-03 04:31 PM |
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Yes, I disagree that Hitchcock was bubblegum cinema |
Nailzberg |
Nov-06-03 04:03 PM |
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Spielberg, is that you.... |
4323Lopez |
Nov-06-03 03:46 PM |
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Spielberg, is that you.... |
4323Lopez |
Nov-06-03 03:46 PM |
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responses |
theemu |
Nov-06-03 04:43 PM |
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Rankings |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:58 PM |
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You've lost credibility, theemu... |
DerekG |
Nov-06-03 06:58 PM |
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what a slap in the face to STANLEY KUBRICK |
piece sine |
Nov-06-03 03:35 PM |
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Kubrick didn't know anything |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 03:39 PM |
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Oh, puh-huh-huh-leeez. He was a 'stylist' like Spielberg is a cartoonist |
Character Assassin |
Nov-06-03 04:01 PM |
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or "The Killing" compared to anything Stevie put out |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 04:03 PM |
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Yep. He dispensed with traditional time structure like SB never has. |
Character Assassin |
Nov-06-03 04:31 PM |
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gentlemen, gentlemen..... |
piece sine |
Nov-06-03 05:16 PM |
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Huh? |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-06-03 03:42 PM |
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I said ALIVE TODAY |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 03:46 PM |
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You said what? |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-07-03 01:56 PM |
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He is a mawkish, sentimental hack... |
Zolok |
Nov-06-03 03:45 PM |
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People confuse "message" with "talent" |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 03:50 PM |
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heh |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 03:52 PM |
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No, but does Jeff Foxworth suck because he is a redneck |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 03:56 PM |
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what's not funny about drugged out sadistic freaks? |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 03:59 PM |
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Nothing is wrong with DOSF's, but there are |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:10 PM |
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Amelie was stylish as hell, but not nearly as good as Delicatessen/City of |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 04:13 PM |
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Why were you bored? |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:21 PM |
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no, I was bored by Amelie |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 04:24 PM |
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John Cleese sums it up best: |
Zolok |
Nov-07-03 10:02 AM |
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No, his pacing and rhythm are terrible. . . |
emulatorloo |
Nov-06-03 04:10 PM |
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Cameron is good, I'll admit |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:13 PM |
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Scorsese is the best |
Wetzelbill |
Nov-06-03 03:46 PM |
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Spike Lee? Ridley Scott? Ang Lee? |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 03:54 PM |
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speaking of clueless |
Wetzelbill |
Nov-06-03 04:01 PM |
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Jim Jarmuch Is The Best- You Are ALL Wrong! |
cryingshame |
Nov-06-03 04:07 PM |
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except "Ghost Dog" - ewwwwwwwwwwwww |
thebigidea |
Nov-06-03 04:08 PM |
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Sorry, but the self-pitying Peter Pan is as overrated as they come. |
CBHagman |
Nov-06-03 04:21 PM |
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How about: greatest pop filmmaker, next to Hitchcock? |
dback |
Nov-06-03 04:25 PM |
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BRAVO |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:35 PM |
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I'm willing to go along with that, but not because of "pop". |
Nailzberg |
Nov-06-03 04:46 PM |
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A.I. would have done better as a series. |
Why |
Nov-06-03 10:06 PM |
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Imagine they are all musicians. |
Nailzberg |
Nov-06-03 04:28 PM |
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Wasn't he who decided that those mean FBI guys in ET have their |
HypnoToad |
Nov-06-03 04:35 PM |
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Agreed - bad move |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:37 PM |
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you = wrong |
theemu |
Nov-06-03 04:40 PM |
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Touch of Evil |
ThorsteinVeblen |
Nov-06-03 04:51 PM |
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you = wrong |
theemu |
Nov-06-03 05:00 PM |
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Jaws was more human than The Birds ever was... |
DerekG |
Nov-06-03 07:09 PM |
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one word: Hook |
ann_coulter_is_a_man |
Nov-06-03 07:23 PM |
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Hmm...a pissing contest about great American Directors of the 20th Century |
rezmutt |
Nov-06-03 07:49 PM |
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and all of them can genuflect |
piece sine |
Nov-06-03 09:49 PM |
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Well, since the thread was supposed to be on American directors... |
rezmutt |
Nov-07-03 01:17 AM |
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1941 -Was sooo funny! |
4323Lopez |
Nov-06-03 10:09 PM |
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So was "I'm Gonna Get You Sucka" - doesn't make Wayans a great director |
Nailzberg |
Nov-07-03 01:33 AM |
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Yeah, Speilberg is OK |
MadHound |
Nov-07-03 09:37 AM |
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as usual, |
piece sine |
Nov-07-03 01:35 PM |
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someone should mention |
56kid |
Nov-07-03 10:02 AM |
#125 |