Modem Butterfly
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Mon Jun-06-05 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #61 |
| 66. I'm not sure why you're taking this personally |
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You need to relax. Seriously.
I'm not sure how old your kids are, but kids can and do do things their parents aren't aware of and one of those things is teasing dogs. A large number of bite cases are traced to unsupervised child/dog interactions. I'm thinking of one case in particular on a Chow Chow discussion board I'm part of where a woman came on saying her Chow had bitten her stepson who had been playing with the dog for half an hour. Turns out, he had been hitting the dog with a wiffleball bat for half an hour. You hit me with a wiffleball bat for half an hour and I'd bite you, too.
We have some kids in our neighborhood who like to run a stick up and down our privacy fence. They yell and bark and throw things to make my dogs go nuts, especially my Pei. I had to get video of them doing it before their parents would believe me. They told their parents my dog was vicious, well, he was just frightened and annoyed, like anyone getting yelled at by invisible (to him) people.
Look, why don't you talk to your neighbor? Check the dog out yourself. See if he behaves the same way when he can get a good look at you. If you feel comfortable, let him smell your hand a bit. Dogs are like anyone else, they're frightened of the unknown. Try removing the mystery a bit and see if that doesn't help.
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| -Here are my problems with "banning" certain dog breeds |
Coventina |
Jun-06-05 11:35 AM |
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Amen! |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 11:43 AM |
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did I miss something? |
bugslsu9 |
Jun-06-05 11:56 AM |
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California is considering restrictions on the ownership of pit bulls |
MrsGrumpy |
Jun-06-05 11:57 AM |
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Denver, Colorado has already banned them. |
RebelOne |
Jun-06-05 01:47 PM |
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And... this LBN thread is ***HOT**** |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 01:03 PM |
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May I quote your quote? |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 01:21 PM |
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it's a CDC quote.... |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 01:26 PM |
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Your fatalities list is a bit out of date. German shephards were the most |
radwriter0555 |
Jun-06-05 01:58 PM |
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Sure, be strict. Pit bulls should be turned in and destroyed. Why not? |
radwriter0555 |
Jun-06-05 11:56 AM |
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Hey, maybe if we killed ALL the dogs, no one would ever get bit |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 11:59 AM |
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hey |
realisticphish |
Jun-06-05 12:02 PM |
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All dogs are not bred to kill. Pitbulls and rottweilers are. |
radwriter0555 |
Jun-06-05 12:03 PM |
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Only very rarely, by people who shouldn't have dogs to begin with |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 12:04 PM |
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bred to kill? |
realisticphish |
Jun-06-05 12:07 PM |
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Excuse me, but humans are also predators and carnivores. |
RebelOne |
Jun-06-05 01:50 PM |
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we AREN'T different |
realisticphish |
Jun-06-05 01:54 PM |
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No dogs are "bred to kill" |
MadHound |
Jun-06-05 12:08 PM |
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Then please explain why loving, well cared for pit bulls kill their |
radwriter0555 |
Jun-06-05 01:32 PM |
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Well, hell, Poodles and Labs were bred as hunting dogs |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 01:46 PM |
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Gee, these dogs were bred to corral bulls, like other working dogs |
MadHound |
Jun-06-05 01:54 PM |
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I have a friend who works in pit bull rescue |
liontamer |
Jun-06-05 03:00 PM |
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This bears repeating... |
B3Nut |
Jun-06-05 01:50 PM |
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presa canarios are bred to kill |
democracyindanger |
Jun-06-05 01:58 PM |
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Umm, most dogs are "bred to kill" something. |
MadHound |
Jun-06-05 03:06 PM |
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Umm, they were specifically bred for fighting. |
democracyindanger |
Jun-06-05 04:29 PM |
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So were Chows, Shar-Peis, GSDs, Bulldogs, the list could go on |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 04:32 PM |
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Look!!! Pomeranian's ARE KILLERS!! Ban 'em! |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 01:01 PM |
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Rottweillers are not bred to kill. |
RebelOne |
Jun-06-05 01:43 PM |
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That's a real fuzzy area you have there |
Coventina |
Jun-06-05 12:18 PM |
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the sentimentality of a few??? |
progmom |
Jun-06-05 01:01 PM |
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you know what? |
realisticphish |
Jun-06-05 12:01 PM |
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Bingo. |
kick-ass-bob |
Jun-06-05 12:03 PM |
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So you're saying that people are naturally inclined to train |
DS1 |
Jun-06-05 02:00 PM |
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Some folks |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 02:01 PM |
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only people |
realisticphish |
Jun-06-05 02:03 PM |
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They have already banned pits in Colorado |
RebelOne |
Jun-06-05 12:05 PM |
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Kicking my thread because.... |
Coventina |
Jun-06-05 12:44 PM |
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I used to have a Boxer |
LeftyMom |
Jun-06-05 12:58 PM |
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you must be delusional: you dare to disagree with the banistas! |
MisterP |
Jun-06-05 01:45 PM |
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Hey... I am 'stuck' in that other thread. I almost started a poll in GD |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 12:59 PM |
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PLUS.... a lil thing called Constitutional Rights.... |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 01:01 PM |
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it's not the dogs |
dajoki |
Jun-06-05 01:18 PM |
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I have no problem with it |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 01:23 PM |
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That's a lot of privelage you've got going on |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 01:26 PM |
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The attitude that I don't want my children mauled to death |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 01:31 PM |
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Well, if you think only certain breeds are capable... |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 01:36 PM |
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See? I never said that. |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 01:39 PM |
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Rototiller? |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 01:40 PM |
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heh..... |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 01:42 PM |
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It was a spell check thing |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 01:55 PM |
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like what? |
MisterP |
Jun-06-05 02:04 PM |
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Read this thread |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:08 PM |
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Well, just the one |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 02:12 PM |
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It is an amusing substitute |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:14 PM |
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So..... ban ALL breeds, then? Outlaw dogs in general?? |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 01:42 PM |
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Once again. I didn't say that. |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 01:52 PM |
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My Pei seems to snarl and growl all the time |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 01:40 PM |
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You are crossing the line |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:03 PM |
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I'm not sure why you're taking this personally |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 02:11 PM |
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You implied that my kids were doing something to that dog |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:14 PM |
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Actually, I outright asked it |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 02:19 PM |
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No, it isn't possible |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:25 PM |
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The attitude that YOUR comfort trumps SOMEONE else's rights |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 01:38 PM |
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"MY comfort trumps YOUR rights. " |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 01:40 PM |
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I'm afraid that my kids will be mauled |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 01:56 PM |
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Listen |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 01:54 PM |
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Because maybe you should say that THAT dog frightens you... that |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 01:57 PM |
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Again. I didn't say that. |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:01 PM |
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OK... THIS, you just said.... |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 02:11 PM |
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Voting democratic? Worshipping at a weird church? |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 02:13 PM |
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This is what I was talking about. |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:16 PM |
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It's taking an argument to it's illogical conclusion |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 02:23 PM |
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But, it doesn't, not necessarily. |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:35 PM |
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By all means, if you feel it would advance the argument |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 02:40 PM |
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Then you and I agree more than you realize |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:48 PM |
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Ugh |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:16 PM |
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Cars and cigarettes and booze pose a FAR greater risk to your child |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 02:19 PM |
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Is a bottle of booze |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:20 PM |
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That's soooo dramatic!!! |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 02:21 PM |
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I was being sarcastic, too |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:22 PM |
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I just don't get the logic that you are using. Seriously. |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 02:29 PM |
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No, I don't |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:42 PM |
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I have repeatedly said that problem dogs MUST be put down. |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 02:55 PM |
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I definitely don't think |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 03:04 PM |
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Yes... but the problem that I have with that is... |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 03:10 PM |
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It's a good point |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 03:22 PM |
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I had liquor poured down my throat when I was a kid |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 02:24 PM |
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It's the attitude that others are responsible for your comfort |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 02:16 PM |
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No. It is not. |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:17 PM |
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"We shouldn't have to live this way" |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 02:22 PM |
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It isn't just about being frightened |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 02:29 PM |
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Punishing the owners can only happen ~after~ a child has his/her face |
DS1 |
Jun-06-05 01:57 PM |
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But stopping negligent and/or deliberately cruel dog owners... |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 02:00 PM |
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Enforced how? |
DS1 |
Jun-06-05 02:01 PM |
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Stop dog fighting rings, regulate backyard breeders... |
Modem Butterfly |
Jun-06-05 02:04 PM |
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It's notable that the total number of fatalities has NOT increased |
Cyndee_Lou_Who |
Jun-06-05 02:17 PM |
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We can start with these next! |
Balbus |
Jun-06-05 03:02 PM |
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How do you enforce a breed ban without becoming a police state? |
Coventina |
Jun-06-05 04:27 PM |
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That's not always how a ban works |
LeftyMom |
Jun-06-05 03:36 PM |
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I don't think all bans require that, though. |
Pithlet |
Jun-06-05 03:38 PM |
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dupe |
DS1 |
Jun-06-05 01:58 PM |
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Is this what Free Republic is like?? |
Balbus |
Jun-06-05 01:59 PM |
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