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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 12:44 PM
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53. she wasn't just saying it to stay alive
That is what is so remarkable about her. She was effective with this man because she actually cared about his life, because she cared about who he was as a person. She wasn't mouthing platitudes. If she had, he would have known it and she likely wouldn't have been able to persuade him to give up.

To say that she believe God brought him to her door means that she thought she could help him. It does not mean he believes God moved him to kill those people. I guess there are some things about faith that unbelievers don't understand. What I would ask is that you would simply acknowledge that rather than insisting you know something that you don't. You assume she believes God instructed the man to kill people. She did not say that and I very much doubt she believes that. It's clear to me their her vision of Christianity is one of love and compassion. Simply accept that she has those qualities and don't worry so much about the fact that it is religion that underlies her actions. The important point is that she is a woman who acted with great compassion and humanity. She said much more than these words in her quite long statement. Let's not make a villain out of a woman who treated this man with rare dignity.
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  -'I Believe God Brought Him to My Door' - Ga. Woman Taken Hostage NNN0LHI  Mar-14-05 07:04 AM   #0 
  - i'll give her that. that was way better then crying and screaming.  okieinpain   Mar-14-05 07:13 AM   #1 
  - Maybe god should have...............  ClintonTyree   Mar-14-05 07:14 AM   #2 
  - God does seem to operate with an unnecessarily high attrition rate.  Zenlitened   Mar-14-05 07:41 AM   #14 
  - those people who dance with rattlesnakes are brave too  Magic Rat   Mar-14-05 07:16 AM   #3 
  - She ain't messed up, Rat. She did two things, as I see it:  Bertha Venation   Mar-14-05 07:51 AM   #19 
  - Apples and Oranges MR  NNN0LHI   Mar-14-05 08:16 AM   #40 
  - Come on. Quit knocking this woman for her faith. She did a brave thing.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-14-05 07:27 AM   #4 
  - Was that (Quit knocking this woman for her faith) for me? n/t  NNN0LHI   Mar-14-05 07:31 AM   #5 
  - No, not at all. I'm a doofus when it comes to replying sometimes.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-14-05 07:32 AM   #6 
     - I'm a doofus too. No worries. Take care and see you later n/t  NNN0LHI   Mar-14-05 07:36 AM   #9 
  - I was about to post the same thing. Thank you for saying it.  peekaloo   Mar-14-05 07:34 AM   #8 
  - Brave?  johnnie   Mar-14-05 07:32 AM   #7 
  - She exhibited grace under pressure  nuxvomica   Mar-14-05 07:39 AM   #10 
  - Did you listen to her?  imenja   Mar-14-05 07:43 AM   #15 
     - I didn't listen to her  johnnie   Mar-14-05 08:00 AM   #24 
        - if you can catch the conference replayed, check it out  imenja   Mar-14-05 08:06 AM   #28 
           - I have no problem with religion  johnnie   Mar-14-05 08:16 AM   #39 
  - Did you listen to her press conference?  imenja   Mar-14-05 07:40 AM   #11 
  - I've got to agree. The part where she told him he wasn't dead.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-14-05 07:40 AM   #13 
  - Agree with your comment, Don ...  jarab   Mar-14-05 07:40 AM   #12 
  - I would have been about as useful as a bowl of Jello in that situation n/t  NNN0LHI   Mar-14-05 07:44 AM   #16 
     - Agreed. The part where she told him of her husband being dead and her  MrsGrumpy   Mar-14-05 07:46 AM   #17 
  - Oh man. God had some people killed so this guy could preach the  DS1   Mar-14-05 07:50 AM   #18 
  - ???  imenja   Mar-14-05 07:52 AM   #20 
  - Did you read this quote in the original post...  vi5   Mar-14-05 07:57 AM   #22 
     - I see  imenja   Mar-14-05 08:02 AM   #25 
        - I'm not disagreeing with you on that point....  vi5   Mar-14-05 08:04 AM   #27 
           - not calling him out as much as not getting his point  imenja   Mar-14-05 08:09 AM   #31 
              - Sorry, I was mixing up my shootings....  vi5   Mar-14-05 08:12 AM   #33 
              - it's not picking and choosing  imenja   Mar-14-05 08:15 AM   #37 
                 - But I'm not posing the question....  vi5   Mar-14-05 08:19 AM   #43 
                    - I very much doubt it  imenja   Mar-14-05 08:32 AM   #46 
              - My point was that sometimes the events that people mold their  DS1   Mar-14-05 08:15 AM   #38 
  - No. A woman showed compassion toward a fellow human being, and  MrsGrumpy   Mar-14-05 07:54 AM   #21 
  - I have EXTREME mixed feelings about this...  VelmaD   Mar-14-05 07:57 AM   #23 
  - no she doesn't have to believe that  imenja   Mar-14-05 08:04 AM   #26 
  - But if you believe god had a plan and a reason for this guy  vi5   Mar-14-05 08:06 AM   #29 
     - not true  imenja   Mar-14-05 08:12 AM   #32 
        - I'm all for forgiveness and redemption....  vi5   Mar-14-05 08:17 AM   #41 
           - no, I very much doubt she believes that  imenja   Mar-14-05 08:18 AM   #42 
           - Where did she say that the shooter was destined to kill those people?  progmom   Mar-14-05 08:46 AM   #48 
              - Exactly...all I could find was this...  MrsGrumpy   Mar-14-05 08:48 AM   #49 
              - I'm really touched by her story.  progmom   Mar-14-05 08:54 AM   #51 
              - In this's included in the original post....  vi5   Mar-14-05 08:53 AM   #50 
                 - she wasn't just saying it to stay alive  imenja   Mar-14-05 12:44 PM   #53 
  - that is really a  madrchsod   Mar-14-05 08:14 AM   #35 
  - Agree. There's always an element of insensitivity to statements like that  Zenlitened   Mar-14-05 08:33 AM   #47 
  - Oh cripes why did I know this was going to be on DU today  underpants   Mar-14-05 08:08 AM   #30 
  - Thank you underpants.  MrsGrumpy   Mar-14-05 08:13 AM   #34 
  - Couldn't have said it better.  BlondieK143   Mar-14-05 08:14 AM   #36 
  - That's really impressive. Mega-kudos to her. n/t  da_chimperor   Mar-14-05 08:19 AM   #44 
  - Two points:  CottonBear   Mar-14-05 08:25 AM   #45 
  - Hey, if she'd been buddhist, and credited her religion for staying calm  Lerkfish   Mar-14-05 08:56 AM   #52 
     - Because of the "what about the other people" issue....  tjdee   Mar-14-05 01:47 PM   #54 

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