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Mrs. Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:53 AM
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85. Did He Renounce These Views As Loudly As He Proclaimed Them?
The anti-gay statements Reggie White made didn't hurt me one bit. I was quite happy with my life, comfortable with my faith, and I knew he was full of it.

The reason I was so angry with him, and remain so today, is because of the effect those views had on young gay kids. How many Packers fans, young and gay, contemplated, or maybe even attempted, suicide because of what was said about us? How many Packers fans, young and straight, decided it was okay the beat the crap out of the local fags because of what Reggie White said? The views Reggie White held mattered because of his celebrity. He used his position as a highly visible professional athlete to verbally bash people who had done him no harm.

Maybe he did renounce his bigotry after he left the public eye. If he did, good for him. But why didn't he use his access to the media to publicly renounce his views? Why didn't he use his wealth to undo some of the harm he did?

It's one thing to own one's bigotry through words; it's a lot harder to renounce one's bigotry through tangible actions. I didn't see either of those from Reggie White.
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  -REGGIE WHITE Quotations... arwalden  Dec-26-04 11:45 AM   #0 
  - and people act all offended when I offer to shit on his grave  DS1   Dec-26-04 11:46 AM   #1 
  - You said that you wanted to see an airplane with a team crash in a fireball  Bleachers7   Dec-27-04 06:08 PM   #88 
  - For some reason, beyond my understanding, once someone  ikojo   Dec-27-04 06:24 PM   #91 
  - I remember these statements  Behind the Aegis   Dec-26-04 11:50 AM   #2 
  - Yes and his god has called him home  Solly Mack   Dec-26-04 11:52 AM   #3 
  - He Should Be Reaching Roasting Temperature by Now  CO Liberal   Dec-26-04 12:00 PM   #8 
     - That song was the first thing I thought of when I heard he was dead  Solly Mack   Dec-26-04 12:19 PM   #13 
  - Reggie was studying Hebrew when he died  StClone   Dec-26-04 11:52 AM   #4 
  - Steroids  proud2Blib   Dec-26-04 01:25 PM   #36 
     - No....  CO Liberal   Dec-26-04 02:11 PM   #49 
        - But I wonder if the steroids  proud2Blib   Dec-26-04 02:17 PM   #52 
  - What a charmer  MountainLaurel   Dec-26-04 11:56 AM   #5 
  - According to some reports  Bluzmann57   Dec-26-04 11:57 AM   #6 
  - Oh Brother! He "apologized" because he wanted to keep his endorsements...  arwalden   Dec-26-04 12:07 PM   #9 
  - please.  jonnyblitz   Dec-26-04 12:09 PM   #11 
     - Perhape Instead, It Will Remind People....  CO Liberal   Dec-26-04 02:15 PM   #51 
  - two words come to mind, "CLOSET CASE"!!!  lcordero   Dec-26-04 11:58 AM   #7 
  - I was thinking the same thing!  ariesgem   Dec-26-04 03:38 PM   #69 
     - have you ever seen the movie, "American Beauty"?  lcordero   Dec-26-04 04:00 PM   #70 
        - YES!! Col. Frank Fitts, USMC... Classic Example!  arwalden   Dec-26-04 04:07 PM   #71 
           - ROTFLMAO n/t  lcordero   Dec-26-04 05:12 PM   #81 
  - Everyone dies  ZombyWoof   Dec-26-04 12:08 PM   #10 
  - MORE BULLSHIT RACIST QUOTES...  arwalden   Dec-26-04 12:15 PM   #12 
  - Oh my god.  Placebo   Dec-26-04 04:17 PM   #76 
  - I Kno-o-ow! It's Amazing!!  arwalden   Dec-26-04 05:02 PM   #80 
  - Lombardi disallowed homophobia Back In The Day  AlienGirl   Dec-27-04 06:45 PM   #93 
  - Here's the place in the local Milwaukee paper  RetroLounge   Dec-26-04 12:20 PM   #14 
  - White is no different from other celebrities  fortyfeetunder   Dec-26-04 12:22 PM   #15 
  - I was going to say "with all due respect", but I don't think I have any...  mojowork_n   Dec-26-04 12:25 PM   #16 
  - A public figure who uses his bully platform to promote hatred and bigotry  Liberal Veteran   Dec-26-04 12:28 PM   #19 
  - I am not single-issue anything  ZombyWoof   Dec-26-04 12:30 PM   #20 
  - I stand against hate, racism, and prejudice  Solly Mack   Dec-26-04 12:33 PM   #21 
  - Horse Shit! -- Of Course Anyone Is Free To Be An Apologist  arwalden   Dec-26-04 12:42 PM   #23 
  - "Getting it"  mojowork_n   Dec-26-04 01:08 PM   #30 
     - Thanks For Clarifying That.  arwalden   Dec-26-04 01:13 PM   #31 
  - Have any respect for what?  Malikshah   Dec-26-04 12:55 PM   #28 
  - Sorry, I still think it was ignorance, not malice.  mojowork_n   Dec-26-04 01:19 PM   #34 
     - So we should excuse hate speech if the person is "ill-informed?"  Misunderestimator   Dec-26-04 01:30 PM   #38 
     - To Answer Your Question... NO. --- But Mr. White Wasn't ill-Informed...  arwalden   Dec-26-04 01:38 PM   #40 
        - Totally agree. *I* know that his hate did not come from ignorance...  Misunderestimator   Dec-26-04 01:40 PM   #42 
           - I Know! It's Infuriating Being Told That *I* Should Feel Sorrow For Him...  arwalden   Dec-26-04 01:49 PM   #46 
              - It's okay Arwalden, we know that you aren't doing it out of malice,  Rabrrrrrr   Dec-26-04 04:15 PM   #73 
                 - "specifically blaming homosexuals for all the country's ills..."  mojowork_n   Dec-27-04 06:03 PM   #87 
     - I'm not here to impress anyone  Malikshah   Dec-26-04 01:38 PM   #41 
  - bashing bigotry equals bashing christianity?  jonnyblitz   Dec-26-04 12:56 PM   #29 
  - When People Use Christianity As The Basis Of Their Bigotry....  CO Liberal   Dec-26-04 02:20 PM   #53 
     - Religion is often the refuge of the scoundrel and the bigot.  Liberal Veteran   Dec-26-04 02:27 PM   #54 
     - yup.  jonnyblitz   Dec-26-04 02:35 PM   #57 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-26-04 04:11 PM   #72 
  - Fuck Intolerance. Known fact -- plenty of gay dudes in pro football.  henslee   Dec-26-04 12:26 PM   #17 
  - Known fact?  mojowork_n   Dec-26-04 12:34 PM   #22 
     - the" hysterical agenda?"  jonnyblitz   Dec-26-04 12:46 PM   #26 
     - that "single-issue" mantra is tiresome  Misunderestimator   Dec-26-04 12:52 PM   #27 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-26-04 01:17 PM   #33 
           - speak for yourself  pres2032   Dec-26-04 01:41 PM   #43 
              - Oh goody, we get the Jesus defending a woman's life quote again.  Misunderestimator   Dec-26-04 02:12 PM   #50 
              - When Someone Like Reggie White Is Cruel & Hate-Filled In Life....  CO Liberal   Dec-26-04 02:40 PM   #59 
              - And It's Also Amazing How Many Stealth Bigots Pop Out Of Their Hidey-Holes  arwalden   Dec-26-04 02:52 PM   #63 
                 - yes, i admit it: i am a homophobe and a bigot  pres2032   Dec-26-04 02:58 PM   #64 
                    - Hold Your Horses, Cowboy!  arwalden   Dec-26-04 03:32 PM   #68 
                    - It's Debatable....  CO Liberal   Dec-27-04 10:20 AM   #83 
  - It isn't polite to speak ill of the dead - so I'm not gonna say anything  HEyHEY   Dec-26-04 12:28 PM   #18 
  - One less bigot in the world. No loss, in fact...  Zenlitened   Dec-26-04 12:43 PM   #24 
  - Thanks, Allen for posting these...  Misunderestimator   Dec-26-04 12:44 PM   #25 
  - Turning Reggie White's Quotes Around.....  CO Liberal   Dec-26-04 01:16 PM   #32 
  - "gays deserve no rights"  mojowork_n   Dec-26-04 01:24 PM   #35 
  - Go back and read the OP again... Reggie said it.  Misunderestimator   Dec-26-04 01:28 PM   #37 
  - Did You Even READ The Original Post All The Way To The End?  arwalden   Dec-26-04 01:33 PM   #39 
  - other quotes by other bigots...  Solly Mack   Dec-26-04 01:44 PM   #44 
  - stop christian bashing.  jonnyblitz   Dec-26-04 01:47 PM   #45 
     - I know. Jeebus forbid anyone point out the hate and ignorance  Solly Mack   Dec-26-04 01:51 PM   #47 
     - When Christians Start Acting Christ-Like...  CO Liberal   Dec-26-04 02:43 PM   #60 
        - exactly. The Bible teaches to help people  goodbody   Dec-26-04 03:13 PM   #67 
  - Here in Colorado in 1992....  CO Liberal   Dec-26-04 02:08 PM   #48 
     - that was HUGE news for the longest time..  jonnyblitz   Dec-26-04 02:37 PM   #58 
  - very good!  goodbody   Dec-26-04 02:48 PM   #62 
  - Um, who is this Reggie White?  Bouncy Ball   Dec-26-04 02:29 PM   #55 
  - Just a Useless Piece of Shit Who Died  CO Liberal   Dec-26-04 02:46 PM   #61 
  - Whenever a bigot dies, an angel gets its wings.  NightTrain   Dec-26-04 02:30 PM   #56 
  - Since when did I kill a black person?! Or my sin being worse than greed?  HypnoToad   Dec-26-04 02:59 PM   #65 
  - Thank you for posting these quotes!  LeftCoast   Dec-26-04 03:09 PM   #66 
  - He apologized for the remarks  Uzybone   Dec-26-04 04:17 PM   #74 
  - Because we are hypocrits sometimes in my opinion.  MrsGrumpy   Dec-26-04 04:18 PM   #77 
  - His SHOUTED BIGOTRY!!! vs His (mumbled-whispered apologies)  arwalden   Dec-26-04 04:52 PM   #79 
  - But After He Apologized For Those Remarks....  CO Liberal   Dec-26-04 06:19 PM   #82 
  - Did He Renounce These Views As Loudly As He Proclaimed Them?  Mrs. Venation   Dec-27-04 11:53 AM   #85 
  - I need your opinion  jellybelly   Dec-26-04 04:17 PM   #75 
  - This man was fucking EVIL.  terrya   Dec-26-04 04:39 PM   #78 
  - gays kiLLed reggie white  sniffa   Dec-27-04 10:33 AM   #84 
  - Sad that our society and national media give this type of person  Old and In the Way   Dec-27-04 12:32 PM   #86 
  - He's an ass  Bleachers7   Dec-27-04 06:11 PM   #89 
  - White on "partial birth abortions"  Bluebear   Dec-27-04 06:15 PM   #90 
  - He was having an affair with Alan Keyes and...  hollywood926   Dec-27-04 06:40 PM   #92 
  - A bastard in life is no less a bastard in death  bloodyjack   Dec-27-04 06:48 PM   #94 
  - glad to see this thread back up on the front page of the lounge  jonnyblitz   Dec-27-04 06:53 PM   #95 

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