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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 04:55 PM
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19. There is no freedom without the freedom to dissent. n/t
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  -T-shirt I saw last week: "Freedom OF Religion, not Freedom FROM Religion." YellowRubberDuckie  Dec-13-04 01:14 PM   #0 
  - LIEberman said the same thing too.  PROGRESSIVE1   Dec-13-04 01:15 PM   #1 
  - I'm a Buddhist and I'm offended....  rfranklin   Dec-13-04 01:16 PM   #2 
  - Freedom from religion is a part of freedom from religion.  HypnoToad   Dec-13-04 01:16 PM   #3 
  - not offended  tk2kewl   Dec-13-04 01:21 PM   #4 
  - Of religion is the phrase our founding fathers used - and this is bad why?  papau   Dec-13-04 01:21 PM   #5 
  - Why can't we enjoy both?  Book Lover   Dec-13-04 01:24 PM   #6 
  - Well, personally,  Oregonian   Dec-13-04 01:24 PM   #7 
  - You could take it that way, I suppose, but . . .  MrModerate   Dec-13-04 01:27 PM   #8 
  - I agree  papau   Dec-13-04 02:12 PM   #12 
  - WRONG. Freedom OF includes Freedom FROM  mondo joe   Dec-13-04 04:35 PM   #16 
  - What some consider 'religion' is anything but freedom  KurtNYC   Dec-13-04 01:38 PM   #9 
  - Okay if have to subscribe to a religion I'm a Rastafarian...  edbermac   Dec-13-04 02:03 PM   #10 
  - Atheism is a faith based choice - a religion - so you could chose  papau   Dec-13-04 02:13 PM   #13 
     - Oh and atheism is not faith based.  mondo joe   Dec-13-04 04:35 PM   #17 
        - What can an athiest prove about God?  papau   Dec-13-04 07:18 PM   #20 
           - faith is the belief in something without evidence. Not absence of belief.  mondo joe   Dec-13-04 11:41 PM   #23 
              - Didn't we go through this enough last week?  AZCat   Dec-13-04 11:50 PM   #25 
              - I'd rather not do that debate - but I'm not ready to be accused of a faith  mondo joe   Dec-14-04 12:17 AM   #28 
                 - Okay  AZCat   Dec-14-04 12:20 AM   #29 
                 - AZ, I appreciate your efforts to prevent an explosion.  mondo joe   Dec-14-04 12:32 AM   #30 
                    - I didn't mean to call you out  AZCat   Dec-14-04 12:35 AM   #31 
                 - I would never bad mouth any faith, even atheism. :-)  papau   Dec-14-04 11:03 AM   #33 
              - I didn't post this to get back into that argument.  YellowRubberDuckie   Dec-13-04 11:53 PM   #26 
              - I'm not criticizing anyone, just responding to claim that atheism is faith  mondo joe   Dec-14-04 12:15 AM   #27 
              - You believe there's no God without being able to prove that - that's faith  papau   Dec-14-04 11:02 AM   #32 
                 - You're calling on someone to prove a negative.  mac56   Dec-14-04 11:05 AM   #34 
                 - Not true in metaphysics - the rules are a bit different as to logic :-)  papau   Dec-14-04 11:21 AM   #36 
                 - Umm, no  progressoid   Dec-14-04 11:34 AM   #37 
  - As Hugo Black wrote  DelawareValleyDem   Dec-13-04 02:11 PM   #11 
  - Theo-fascism  warrens   Dec-13-04 02:18 PM   #14 
  - You're right  CarbonDate   Dec-14-04 11:06 AM   #35 
  - you can not have freedom OF religion without having freedom FROM religion  RUDUing2   Dec-13-04 02:20 PM   #15 
  - Exactly. Can't have one without the other.  UdoKier   Dec-13-04 04:36 PM   #18 
  - There is no freedom without the freedom to dissent. n/t  Ladyhawk   Dec-13-04 04:55 PM   #19 
  - Was it worn inside out?  Seabiscuit   Dec-13-04 07:22 PM   #21 
  - I'll Take Freedom FROM Religion!! -- Freedom OF Religion Means...  arwalden   Dec-13-04 07:31 PM   #22 
     - Allen, I didn't recognize you there without the hot laughing dude.  YellowRubberDuckie   Dec-13-04 11:46 PM   #24 
 

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