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Wed Jan-07-04 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #72 |
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| -Does the 2nd Amendment allow private gun ownership? |
Damndifino |
Jan-07-04 12:22 PM |
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Constantly mis-defined |
Loonman |
Jan-07-04 12:26 PM |
#1 |
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It's the one amendment that the conservatives interpret liberally. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Jan-07-04 01:03 PM |
#20 |
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The founding fathers didn't write this in stone, they weren't gods |
billbuckhead |
Jan-07-04 12:26 PM |
#2 |
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You're right |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 01:00 PM |
#18 |
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maybe yes maybe no but... |
lib13 |
Jan-07-04 12:28 PM |
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In the early documents, the writers discussed exactly that. |
cspiguy |
Jan-07-04 12:53 PM |
#13 |
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Heh. |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 01:10 PM |
#26 |
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One man, one rifle |
TheMiddleRoad |
Jan-08-04 02:37 AM |
#133 |
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LOL!!! |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-08-04 03:13 AM |
#134 |
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Ambiguity was necessary to get the Constitution ratified by all 13 |
heidler |
Jan-08-04 03:39 PM |
#153 |
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By that same line of reasoning... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-09-04 05:28 AM |
#159 |
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Private gun ownership is not allowed... |
Superfly |
Jan-07-04 12:30 PM |
#4 |
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In a word |
MrBenchley |
Jan-07-04 12:30 PM |
#5 |
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What does it say... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 01:18 PM |
#33 |
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It says that |
MrBenchley |
Jan-07-04 02:17 PM |
#45 |
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inbred supporters believe the Bill of Rights covers individuals? |
Liberal Classic |
Jan-07-04 01:23 PM |
#38 |
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What a pantload..... |
MrBenchley |
Jan-07-04 02:19 PM |
#46 |
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Then explain the recent Stewart ruling... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 07:19 PM |
#63 |
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It doesn't say anywhere what type of guns allowed |
Bandit |
Jan-07-04 12:33 PM |
#6 |
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Actually... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 01:16 PM |
#31 |
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Gun ownership is as enshrined in the constitution as the right to choose |
dkf |
Jan-07-04 12:33 PM |
#7 |
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It doesn't "allow" anything |
slackmaster |
Jan-07-04 12:39 PM |
#8 |
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Only Amendment to say "Well Regulated" |
Bandit |
Jan-07-04 12:47 PM |
#10 |
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You're entitled to believe whatever bizarre spin you like |
slackmaster |
Jan-07-04 12:52 PM |
#12 |
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See Post # 6 |
Bandit |
Jan-07-04 12:56 PM |
#16 |
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remember |
Terwilliger |
Jan-07-04 01:01 PM |
#19 |
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"Well regulated" meant "well trained" -- able to behave in a well-defined |
Mairead |
Jan-07-04 01:44 PM |
#43 |
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take it for what it's worth... |
d_ashley |
Jan-07-04 12:51 PM |
#11 |
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Practical problems with this scenario? |
Gwendolayn |
Jan-07-04 01:48 PM |
#44 |
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i think the problem rests... |
d_ashley |
Jan-07-04 04:19 PM |
#49 |
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Sigh |
vpigrad |
Jan-07-04 12:44 PM |
#9 |
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WTF - "subjects"? |
slackmaster |
Jan-07-04 12:54 PM |
#14 |
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Nit-picking |
vpigrad |
Jan-07-04 01:04 PM |
#21 |
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No it is NOT nit-picking |
slackmaster |
Jan-07-04 01:13 PM |
#27 |
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"If you can't go to school, go to Tech!" |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 01:20 PM |
#35 |
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Read the constitution |
theboss |
Jan-09-04 01:28 PM |
#170 |
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Define "official capacities". |
YNGW |
Jan-07-04 12:55 PM |
#15 |
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Welcome to DU, vpigrad |
Terwilliger |
Jan-07-04 01:07 PM |
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It depends. |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 12:59 PM |
#17 |
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I still can't smoke my pot |
Terwilliger |
Jan-07-04 01:06 PM |
#23 |
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The prohibition against you smoking pot is unconstitutional |
slackmaster |
Jan-07-04 01:14 PM |
#28 |
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And here I thought most states had criminalized pot.... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 01:25 PM |
#39 |
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Introductory clause or context? |
Damndifino |
Jan-07-04 01:21 PM |
#37 |
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Not without changing the constitution... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 01:40 PM |
#42 |
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It's not my analogy, but still... |
Damndifino |
Jan-07-04 02:24 PM |
#47 |
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It's too bad... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 07:27 PM |
#64 |
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I counted one qualifier |
Damndifino |
Jan-08-04 11:42 AM |
#141 |
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If mamma wore army boots... |
hansberrym |
Jan-07-04 09:25 PM |
#114 |
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"the right of people to keep and bare arms" i want my ICBM damn it! |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-07-04 01:04 PM |
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"the right of people to keep and bare arms"...I want my ICBM damn it! |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-07-04 01:07 PM |
#24 |
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That's BEAR arms |
slackmaster |
Jan-07-04 01:15 PM |
#29 |
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i perfer bare arms....it is much cooerl |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-07-04 01:17 PM |
#32 |
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"cooerl".... humm... are you drunk by any chance? ....lol |
frogfromthenorth2 |
Jan-07-04 01:20 PM |
#36 |
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hehehe....would you like a glass of some chardonay? |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-07-04 01:34 PM |
#41 |
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Great - My favorite American subjet.... the second Amendment.... |
frogfromthenorth2 |
Jan-07-04 01:07 PM |
#25 |
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If the constitution read, "The right to abortion shall not be infringed" |
RUexperienced |
Jan-07-04 01:15 PM |
#30 |
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If any of you can read FRENCH, I wrote an article this summer about the |
frogfromthenorth2 |
Jan-07-04 01:20 PM |
#34 |
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I'm interested in how you reached that conclusion... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 01:31 PM |
#40 |
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Of course it's a LUDICROUS concept for everyone else . . . |
NavajoRug |
Jan-07-04 08:49 PM |
#105 |
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THAT IS LUDICROUS!!! The best example is that |
frogfromthenorth2 |
Jan-08-04 07:43 AM |
#136 |
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Your points are valid, but consider this . . . |
NavajoRug |
Jan-08-04 07:08 PM |
#156 |
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I'm not for outlawing guns, but |
Pithlet |
Jan-08-04 01:42 PM |
#143 |
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Look at what those "snipers" in the D.C. area . . . |
NavajoRug |
Jan-08-04 07:12 PM |
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Yes, it does, OBVIOUSLY |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Jan-07-04 02:27 PM |
#48 |
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The Second Amendment simply protects |
MysticMind |
Jan-07-04 04:45 PM |
#50 |
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Bzzzz....WRONG!!! |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 07:32 PM |
#65 |
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the 2nd Amendment specifically mentions states |
MysticMind |
Jan-08-04 09:09 AM |
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Please cite... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-08-04 11:27 AM |
#139 |
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you're misreading what I'm saying |
MysticMind |
Jan-08-04 01:18 PM |
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If that were the case |
Columbia |
Jan-08-04 01:54 PM |
#144 |
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That's "Army" |
Damndifino |
Jan-08-04 02:06 PM |
#145 |
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A Right of the People |
Columbia |
Jan-08-04 02:19 PM |
#146 |
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I think tetchiness is getting the upper hand here |
Damndifino |
Jan-08-04 02:37 PM |
#147 |
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Negative |
Columbia |
Jan-08-04 02:46 PM |
#148 |
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So my one remaining question is, |
Damndifino |
Jan-08-04 02:53 PM |
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It's up to you |
Columbia |
Jan-08-04 03:00 PM |
#151 |
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It's not up to me |
Damndifino |
Jan-08-04 03:16 PM |
#152 |
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There are many ways legal immigrants |
Columbia |
Jan-08-04 03:48 PM |
#154 |
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I'm not an immigrant either |
Damndifino |
Jan-09-04 11:47 AM |
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To bear arms is an undefined term |
Bandit |
Jan-09-04 12:26 PM |
#167 |
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Do they really have that power? |
Damndifino |
Jan-09-04 12:32 PM |
#168 |
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I want to order me a bunker busting nuke |
Bandit |
Jan-09-04 01:13 PM |
#169 |
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So what's to stop the government... |
Damndifino |
Jan-09-04 02:14 PM |
#171 |
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Not quite... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-09-04 06:34 PM |
#175 |
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Fear of the people |
Damndifino |
Jan-08-04 02:48 PM |
#149 |
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Amen! |
frogfromthenorth2 |
Jan-07-04 07:34 PM |
#67 |
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Regardless.... |
deseo |
Jan-07-04 04:55 PM |
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i don't think people need to own m-16's and machine guns to hunt deer |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-07-04 05:34 PM |
#52 |
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Nice Straw Man you have erected there, ED |
slackmaster |
Jan-07-04 05:49 PM |
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they didn't question it because they didn't exist then |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-07-04 07:36 PM |
#69 |
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LOL!!!! |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:41 PM |
#100 |
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first post |
jeremy92fs |
Jan-07-04 06:17 PM |
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the internet allows one to better express opinion |
rman |
Jan-07-04 06:21 PM |
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M16s (and AR-15s) make good deer rifles |
jmowreader |
Jan-07-04 06:34 PM |
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I agree |
jeremy92fs |
Jan-07-04 06:37 PM |
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i do believe it is ILLEGAL to hunt with your perfered weapon |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-07-04 07:42 PM |
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my analogy does hold |
jeremy92fs |
Jan-07-04 06:34 PM |
#59 |
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LOL........swat a fly with a nuke |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-07-04 07:45 PM |
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Sorry.... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 07:37 PM |
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No |
jeremy92fs |
Jan-07-04 07:50 PM |
#79 |
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The First Amendment: |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:02 PM |
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I do not like the Interstate Commerce clause |
jeremy92fs |
Jan-07-04 08:05 PM |
#85 |
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Au contraire... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:10 PM |
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I am familiar with Lopez I think |
jeremy92fs |
Jan-07-04 08:15 PM |
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I don't have a link.... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:19 PM |
#90 |
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LOL talk about a "strawman"!!! oh and for your info ..the internet is NOT |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Jan-07-04 07:39 PM |
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No the internet is not an arms |
jeremy92fs |
Jan-07-04 07:56 PM |
#82 |
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What's wrong with legally owning machineguns? |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 07:33 PM |
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Nothing at all |
jeremy92fs |
Jan-07-04 07:52 PM |
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Psssttt... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:03 PM |
#84 |
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Nor do I... |
deseo |
Jan-07-04 08:28 PM |
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I collect them... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:29 PM |
#96 |
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It is law-abiding... |
deseo |
Jan-07-04 08:41 PM |
#101 |
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One violent crime commission = no guns ever |
jeremy92fs |
Jan-07-04 08:45 PM |
#104 |
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Yup, yup... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:52 PM |
#107 |
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I believe |
jeremy92fs |
Jan-07-04 08:55 PM |
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No, he did. |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:56 PM |
#109 |
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outright prohibition would go to far imo |
rman |
Jan-07-04 06:13 PM |
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the people |
methinks2 |
Jan-07-04 06:30 PM |
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Protection from govt would be impossible |
LincolnMcGrath |
Jan-07-04 06:58 PM |
#62 |
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Seems to be working for the Iraqis. |
Cat Atomic |
Jan-07-04 07:36 PM |
#68 |
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We could completely DE-populate Iraq in a week. |
LincolnMcGrath |
Jan-07-04 07:42 PM |
#73 |
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I never understood that lame argument before either.... |
frogfromthenorth2 |
Jan-07-04 07:43 PM |
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Uh huh....then why haven't we? |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:07 PM |
#86 |
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Thats just silly! |
LincolnMcGrath |
Jan-07-04 08:30 PM |
#97 |
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Ahhh...So the dead ATF guys... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:38 PM |
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Puh-LEESE!!!! mellow out |
LincolnMcGrath |
Jan-07-04 08:56 PM |
#110 |
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Uhhh...did I miss something... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 07:51 PM |
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B.S. |
frogfromthenorth2 |
Jan-07-04 07:44 PM |
#77 |
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B.S.....Really? then who ARE the people? |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:08 PM |
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Here is my answer...sorry for the wait... |
frogfromthenorth2 |
Jan-08-04 08:18 AM |
#137 |
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Isn't Bogus.... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-09-04 05:42 AM |
#160 |
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Well, the Supreme Court said in Miller.. |
frogfromthenorth2 |
Jan-09-04 07:42 AM |
#162 |
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So... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-09-04 12:04 PM |
#165 |
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COLT has done a fine job of |
LincolnMcGrath |
Jan-07-04 06:53 PM |
#61 |
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Ah. a Bellesiles supporter.... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 07:40 PM |
#72 |
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You know their political leanings? |
LincolnMcGrath |
Jan-07-04 08:23 PM |
#91 |
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Isn't Emory seen as a generally "liberal" school? |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:25 PM |
#93 |
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Well of course, all US colleges are Liberal |
LincolnMcGrath |
Jan-07-04 08:36 PM |
#98 |
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If it was a conservative school.... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:43 PM |
#102 |
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I knew it! |
LincolnMcGrath |
Jan-07-04 08:58 PM |
#111 |
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Ummm....Am I missing something? |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 09:31 PM |
#115 |
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Dupe...sorry 'bout that... |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-07-04 08:26 PM |
#94 |
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yes ... |
number6 |
Jan-07-04 07:43 PM |
#76 |
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of course, don't be silly |
arewethereyet |
Jan-07-04 08:24 PM |
#92 |
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The 2nd Amendment protects a citizen's right to keep and bear arms . . . |
NavajoRug |
Jan-07-04 08:44 PM |
#103 |
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I prefer... |
jeremy92fs |
Jan-07-04 08:50 PM |
#106 |
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Not many people who live more than 20 miles from D.C. . . . |
NavajoRug |
Jan-07-04 09:00 PM |
#112 |
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That is sad... |
jeremy92fs |
Jan-07-04 09:21 PM |
#113 |
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I agree with you. I was simply pointing out . . . |
NavajoRug |
Jan-07-04 09:35 PM |
#116 |
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given their weapons related murder rate, I wouldn't say effective |
arewethereyet |
Jan-07-04 09:43 PM |
#118 |
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Exactly |
jeremy92fs |
Jan-07-04 09:47 PM |
#119 |
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Alright folks... |
ZombyWoof |
Jan-07-04 09:36 PM |
#117 |
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This is MUCH nicer than any J/PS thread |
slackmaster |
Jan-08-04 06:10 AM |
#135 |
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got yer coffee! |
ZombyWoof |
Jan-09-04 02:30 PM |
#172 |
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If you don't mind... I would like you to take a peek at this and |
frogfromthenorth2 |
Jan-09-04 02:35 PM |
#173 |
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Depends who you ask... |
Printer70 |
Jan-07-04 11:50 PM |
#120 |
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Depends what question you ask... |
hansberrym |
Jan-08-04 12:23 AM |
#122 |
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It is a GIVEN... |
hansberrym |
Jan-08-04 12:06 AM |
#121 |
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"Givens" and "Conditionals" are not mutually exclusive |
Damndifino |
Jan-08-04 11:39 AM |
#140 |
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You can't be serious |
hansberrym |
Jan-08-04 05:49 PM |
#155 |
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I can be serious and am |
Damndifino |
Jan-09-04 11:54 AM |
#164 |
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You might consider that the other amendments of the US Bill of Rights... |
hansberrym |
Jan-09-04 06:24 PM |
#174 |
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I thought that the 2nd Amendment... |
Lestat de Lioncourt |
Jan-08-04 12:31 AM |
#123 |
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The Revolution |
Columbia |
Jan-08-04 12:59 AM |
#124 |
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well ,t he SCOTUS did rul on this |
booley |
Jan-08-04 01:07 AM |
#125 |
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A few considerations |
Columbia |
Jan-08-04 01:40 AM |
#127 |
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you're sort-of right. |
DoNotRefill |
Jan-08-04 02:08 AM |
#130 |
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Nope. |
Buzzz |
Jan-08-04 01:15 AM |
#126 |
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You are incorrect |
Columbia |
Jan-08-04 01:55 AM |
#128 |
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It's the interpretation I *prefer* however, its a lie to claim ...... |
Selwynn |
Jan-08-04 02:07 AM |
#129 |
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Well, you are half-right... |
hansberrym |
Jan-08-04 07:17 PM |
#158 |
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Folks, the National Guard IS NOT the militia. |
Elwood P Dowd |
Jan-08-04 02:08 AM |
#131 |
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YES |
TheMiddleRoad |
Jan-08-04 02:30 AM |
#132 |
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Does the 1st am. allow computer ownership? |
Mr.Green93 |
Jan-09-04 06:35 AM |
#161 |
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Does not matter that much |
GRClarkesq |
Jan-09-04 12:06 PM |
#166 |
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