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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 02:21 PM
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44. Your points:
1. PETA does show up at biker events. Here's what some bikers had to say:

One PETA activist showed up in a black biker outfit made of "pleather" - a silky synthetic black rubber. Norman Wagner of Scottsdale, Ariz. said "Why would I wear that? I'm 6-foot-3, and 230 pounds, and I can wear anything I want to."
Glen Sams, a 50-year-old member of the Centaur Motorcycle Club of Virginia, said he was not pleased that PETA is picking on the gathering.
He dismissed the PETA protest. "We were here before PETA, and I imagine we will be here a long time after," he said.
These bikers were nicer to the PETA people than some here.

2.Re: Nutcracker protest. Not ONE leaflet was ever handed out.
Although PETA did get a ton of free publicity due to the Fox/Murdoch generated hysteria.

3. Throwing paint. Could you cite an example of this occuring in the past ten years? I agree that this was counter-productive. But why is a fur-wearer defenceless?
What if the paint thrower is a woman? What if the fur-wearers husband goes nuts? Can fur-wearers not carry guns?
Risking a beating and jail maybe foolish, but it's not "cowardly"

4. PETA euthanizes animals. Yes they do. Because PETA takes the hardest cases. Here is PETA's response:

Our Community Animal Project (CAP) rescues homeless animals directly -- crawling through sewers, poking through junkyards, climbing trees, dodging cars, and arguing with landlords to coax terrified abandoned or neglected animals to safety. We go into the very worst of neighborhoods to deliver food, doghouses, and bedding to pit bulls who have never known a kind word or touch; dogs who--thinking we are bent on doing them harm as all the other humans in their lives have--come at us with snapping jaws. We find starved corpses, dying animals, what is left of cats who have been used as bait for fighting dogs. In winter we see the dogs shiver and try to curl into the tiniest balls to keep warm; in summer we see them with their tongues dragging, water bowls overturned, panting to try not to succumb to the heat. In floods and storms, we are out there at all hours of the night saving lives. We push to have owners of severely abused animals prosecuted and the animals removed, but if we can do nothing else, we try hard to at least make the animals as comfortable as we can and sterilize them.

PETA takes in the animals nobody wants--the feral cat colonies descended from abandoned, unaltered house cats who are now thin and wild and often infected with diseases like Feline AIDS and leukemia. The stray dogs so disfigured by mange they are almost no longer recognizable as canines. The litters of parvo-infected puppies, wracked with diarrhea and vomiting.. The backyard dogs who have known only chains, beatings, and neglect, and who have gone mad because of it. Some of the animals PETA takes in are eventually reunited with their families. We have caught and reunited some of the most elusive animals who other agencies have given up on. PETA opts to euthanize extremely sick or feral animals immediately, rather than subject them to the trauma of further transport and caging that will only, ultimately, end in death. We give them love and attention, food and soothing voices, and yes, a gentle death in our arms."

And a final note - just one NY shelter euthanizes more cats and dogs in 4 days than PETA does in a year. And those animals are much more adoptable than the PETA animals. Should we be angry with the ASPCA or the IDIOTS who get a dog at Christmas and then dump it in April because he chewed the slippers?

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  -Great anti PETA argument... Hippo_Tron  Jan-04-04 02:00 AM   #0 
  - saw a PETA billboard today  wtmusic   Jan-04-04 02:17 AM   #1 
  - Fur for coats and trim on clothing  Piperay   Jan-04-04 04:48 AM   #20 
  - No, skinned animals are fed to other animals.  Pontus   Jan-04-04 03:26 PM   #51 
  - Exacly how are they morons?  RebelOne   Jan-04-04 04:59 AM   #21 
  - I'd like to see...  Indiana Democrat   Jan-04-04 07:21 AM   #25 
     - Wouldn't bother me. I've seen all those pictures.  RebelOne   Jan-04-04 11:11 AM   #32 
        - right up to the point...  DoNotRefill   Jan-04-04 03:45 PM   #53 
        - If those pictures don't bother you, you're not human.  Indiana Democrat   Jan-04-04 03:53 PM   #54 
           - Sure they grose me out, but...  Hippo_Tron   Jan-04-04 04:21 PM   #57 
  - gee thanks  theoceansnerves   Jan-04-04 02:20 AM   #2 
  - Once again, I said that I don't agree with Maddox on everything...  Hippo_Tron   Jan-04-04 02:27 AM   #3 
  - going to have to apologize  theoceansnerves   Jan-04-04 02:56 AM   #5 
     - Please don't bow out...  Hippo_Tron   Jan-04-04 03:15 AM   #9 
        - They have the same stance on fish as on warm-blooded animals.  RebelOne   Jan-04-04 05:02 AM   #22 
           - except human beings and the animals they kill...  DoNotRefill   Jan-04-04 05:03 AM   #23 
           - Except that fish aren't raised in slaughterhouses...  Hippo_Tron   Jan-04-04 02:08 PM   #41 
              - Very few animals are raised in slaughterhouses...  DoNotRefill   Jan-04-04 02:55 PM   #46 
              - I meant that they aren't raised on factory farms in terrible conditions...  Hippo_Tron   Jan-04-04 04:23 PM   #58 
              - they sort of are, you know  amazona   Jan-04-04 03:05 PM   #47 
  - Maddox's dislike of animal rights activists...  DoNotRefill   Jan-04-04 04:12 AM   #16 
  - Maddox is..  Bobby Digital   Jan-04-04 02:51 AM   #4 
  - PETA activists are to be praised and not made fun of  madforffingyears   Jan-04-04 03:02 AM   #6 
  - I'm glad that they do raise awareness of how my food is slaughtered...  Hippo_Tron   Jan-04-04 03:18 AM   #10 
  - Criticize PETA...  DoNotRefill   Jan-04-04 04:14 AM   #17 
     - PETA  SOS   Jan-04-04 01:15 PM   #39 
        - PETA...  DoNotRefill   Jan-04-04 01:21 PM   #40 
           - Your points:  SOS   Jan-04-04 02:21 PM   #44 
              - response:  DoNotRefill   Jan-04-04 03:13 PM   #48 
                 - Your points  SOS   Jan-04-04 04:41 PM   #59 
                    - Bingo.  DoNotRefill   Jan-04-04 07:05 PM   #61 
  - Just voted on his site.  Q3JR4   Jan-04-04 03:05 AM   #7 
  - Posted that one last night, nobody replied...  Hippo_Tron   Jan-04-04 03:18 AM   #11 
  - haha PETA what a bunch of idiots.  IranianDemocrat   Jan-04-04 03:14 AM   #8 
  - Mad cow  Blayde Starrfyre   Jan-04-04 03:31 AM   #12 
  - There were 150 confirmed cases of the disease in England...  Hippo_Tron   Jan-04-04 03:37 AM   #13 
  - New regulations  Blayde Starrfyre   Jan-04-04 03:44 AM   #14 
  - Your decission, I've started phasing out beef but not completely...  Hippo_Tron   Jan-04-04 03:48 AM   #15 
  - True..  girl gone mad   Jan-04-04 04:33 AM   #19 
  - Heh....Didn't PETA say...  DoNotRefill   Jan-04-04 04:16 AM   #18 
  - Nah - Just wait till they have "Mad Lima Bean Disease"  Gore1FL   Jan-04-04 07:24 AM   #26 
  - Could happen--my ancestors came to the US over potatoes.  blondeatlast   Jan-04-04 11:34 AM   #33 
  - that is a sweeping generalization about Schlosser's book  bleedingheart   Jan-04-04 10:57 AM   #29 
  - not really  drdigi420   Jan-04-04 11:04 AM   #31 
  - not looking so smart in Tennessee and Pennsylvania  amazona   Jan-04-04 03:13 PM   #49 
     - I look at it this way...  Hippo_Tron   Jan-04-04 04:17 PM   #56 
  - Big whoop  MadHound   Jan-04-04 06:49 AM   #24 
  - Bravo!!! I couldn't have said it better.  RebelOne   Jan-04-04 12:12 PM   #36 
  - They're serving non factory farmed meat?  Hippo_Tron   Jan-04-04 02:12 PM   #42 
  - This would be funny if  randr   Jan-04-04 07:27 AM   #27 
  - I dunno...  DoNotRefill   Jan-04-04 12:07 PM   #34 
  - LOL, his articles are always entertaining...  HypnoToad   Jan-04-04 09:03 AM   #28 
  - Im on a strict vegetarian diet  drdigi420   Jan-04-04 11:00 AM   #30 
  - Hey,  reachout   Jan-04-04 12:10 PM   #35 
  - This load of poorly written garbage  SOS   Jan-04-04 12:50 PM   #37 
  - there's a lot of nuance in his humor  Bobby Digital   Jan-04-04 02:49 PM   #45 
     - It isn't imitation.  SOS   Jan-04-04 03:31 PM   #52 
        - It is a caricature.  Bobby Digital   Jan-04-04 05:01 PM   #60 
           - It is not caricature  SOS   Jan-04-04 09:03 PM   #62 
              - sure it does  Bobby Digital   Jan-04-04 09:20 PM   #63 
                 - What?  SOS   Jan-04-04 10:16 PM   #64 
                    - follow me very closely  Bobby Digital   Jan-04-04 11:38 PM   #65 
  - ha ha  WhoCountsTheVotes   Jan-04-04 12:55 PM   #38 
  - You don't have to be a vegetarian to be against horrific cruelty  Woodstock   Jan-04-04 02:15 PM   #43 
  - the best argument against PETA in my view is this:  ButterflyBlood   Jan-04-04 03:17 PM   #50 
  - I love Maddox. He kicks ass.  northwest   Jan-04-04 04:06 PM   #55 

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