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201. Hi, LanternWaste!
Edited on Mon Dec-29-03 04:37 PM by arwalden
Thanks for your contribution. Your viewpoint was interesting and well-stated and gave me something to think about. I'm glad you checked-in to share your thoughts!

-- Allen
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  -Born Again Christians jamesarg  Dec-27-03 10:50 PM   #0 
  - grr...  Bertha Venation   Dec-27-03 10:53 PM   #1 
  - I would imagine Jimmy Carter fits in that category  auburnblu   Dec-27-03 11:00 PM   #3 
     - And get their faith correctly, too, GWaBby reads a very strange  blondeatlast   Dec-28-03 12:10 PM   #28 
     - Actually, in Carter's book  drdigi420   Dec-28-03 12:23 PM   #37 
        - Carter spoke about his religion quite a bit  TeacherCreature   Dec-28-03 03:47 PM   #53 
        - Oh, please. Clinton is as cosmetic a Christian as Bush  Character Assassin   Dec-28-03 03:49 PM   #54 
           - you really don't get to judge that  Cheswick   Dec-28-03 06:15 PM   #63 
           - I must agree with you there.  blondeatlast   Dec-28-03 08:13 PM   #81 
           - catch22  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 09:23 AM   #102 
              - ....you mean like junior is just a drug store cowboy, huh?  0007   Dec-29-03 10:30 AM   #119 
              - I'm sorry but  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 11:15 AM   #152 
                 - 'Tis your way or no way, 'eh? Simply put!  0007   Dec-29-03 02:14 PM   #180 
                    - The cow jumps the moon  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 02:17 PM   #181 
                       - We?  0007   Dec-29-03 02:56 PM   #185 
                          - Maybe I even hear that country in South America calling....  0007   Dec-29-03 03:50 PM   #191 
              - yep, that about sums it up  drdigi420   Dec-29-03 11:11 AM   #148 
        - Amen  MISSDem   Dec-29-03 12:21 PM   #169 
        - Religion is ok as long as their church don't dictate to elected officials  LiberalFighter   Dec-29-03 03:01 PM   #186 
  - Born OK the first time.  Selwynn   Dec-27-03 10:57 PM   #2 
  - Me, too, but whatever it takes, regardless of the Spirit.  blondeatlast   Dec-28-03 12:10 PM   #29 
  - I doubt the original poster  Karenina   Dec-28-03 03:15 PM   #46 
  - Thanks for posting this Karenina  Junebug1920   Dec-28-03 03:50 PM   #56 
     - Interesting that this thread  Karenina   Dec-28-03 06:37 PM   #64 
        - I Agree Completely  Junebug1920   Dec-28-03 07:03 PM   #71 
  - LOL you stole my line  nothingshocksmeanymore   Dec-28-03 03:39 PM   #51 
  - I used to say that too  Cheswick   Dec-28-03 06:13 PM   #59 
  - Unfortunately, Cheswick  Karenina   Dec-28-03 06:45 PM   #65 
  - You keep making personal attacks and offer no links  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 09:14 AM   #100 
     - Just for clarification  Karenina   Dec-29-03 10:59 AM   #137 
        - Point out all that you want  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 11:27 AM   #164 
           - At your service.  Karenina   Dec-29-03 01:03 PM   #173 
  - Yeah, well ...after further review....  Selwynn   Dec-29-03 01:41 PM   #177 
  - I love that  beyurslf   Dec-29-03 10:22 AM   #115 
  - REAL Christians have a social conscience  nini   Dec-27-03 11:02 PM   #4 
  - I agree  LiberalFighter   Dec-29-03 04:03 PM   #193 
  - I got something in the mail today.  Cleita   Dec-27-03 11:06 PM   #5 
  - I've just begun looking into them.  blondeatlast   Dec-28-03 12:14 PM   #31 
  - I can speak highly of interfaith alliance --  Selwynn   Dec-29-03 03:27 PM   #190 
  - Thank you!  holyrollerdem   Dec-27-03 11:08 PM   #6 
  - "A true Christian cannot be a Democrat"  young_at_heart   Dec-27-03 11:15 PM   #7 
  - Is this a good place to ask?  salinen   Dec-27-03 11:24 PM   #8 
  - Easy answer  GTRMAN   Dec-27-03 11:31 PM   #9 
  - If they could recognize Him. Highly unlikely--they don't hang  blondeatlast   Dec-28-03 12:19 PM   #34 
     - If Jesus came back today they'd sit him in the electric chair  Solomon   Dec-29-03 08:50 AM   #95 
  - Liars, whiners  rozf   Dec-27-03 11:32 PM   #10 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-28-03 12:17 PM   # 
  - "Moral?" Bwahahahahahaha!  blondeatlast   Dec-28-03 12:17 PM   #33 
  - I might agree with the opposite  drdigi420   Dec-28-03 12:25 PM   #39 
  - I would disagree  LiberalFighter   Dec-29-03 04:10 PM   #195 
  - "A true Christian cannot be a Democrat"...............  BigDaddyLove   Dec-28-03 03:29 PM   #48 
  - so what?  Cheswick   Dec-28-03 06:14 PM   #61 
  - Are you kidding? Ralph Reed has been pushing this for years!  Clyde39   Dec-28-03 08:45 PM   #85 
     - Ask yourself something  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 07:49 AM   #94 
  - *snort*  GreenPartyVoter   Dec-28-03 06:15 PM   #62 
  - My local newspaper solicited "hope for the new year" - mine  Cheesehead   Dec-28-03 07:59 PM   #80 
  - *lololol* I have always said Republicanism and Christianity are mutually  grannylib   Dec-29-03 10:36 AM   #120 
  - You should respond to his letter  LiberalFighter   Dec-29-03 04:06 PM   #194 
  - Pew Research Center numbers  wuushew   Dec-27-03 11:42 PM   #11 
  - Wow the disparity in the numbers from the 80's to now...  FDRrocks   Dec-27-03 11:53 PM   #13 
  - Thank you, as I like to believe I belong in the latter category.  blondeatlast   Dec-28-03 12:21 PM   #36 
  - My conversion from conservative to liberal has MUCH to do with religion  truthseeker1   Dec-28-03 12:13 PM   #30 
  - Well  FDRrocks   Dec-27-03 11:50 PM   #12 
  - Exactly HOW was Viet Nam necessary and important?  leesa   Dec-28-03 11:25 AM   #26 
     - why was Vietnam necessary?  MysticMind   Dec-28-03 03:49 PM   #55 
  - There was a wonderful Now with Bill  TiredTexan   Dec-28-03 12:14 AM   #14 
  - Old Testament Christians really do not follow Jesus's teachings  schultzee   Dec-28-03 12:23 AM   #15 
  - What religions only follow the old testament?  FDRrocks   Dec-28-03 12:25 AM   #16 
  - Jews  wuushew   Dec-28-03 12:28 AM   #18 
     - Well, I wasn't really clear...  FDRrocks   Dec-28-03 12:29 AM   #19 
        - They're the ones who look to the Law...  TreasonousBastard   Dec-28-03 12:46 AM   #20 
        - Nice, concise overview; you left out one important point, though--  blondeatlast   Dec-28-03 12:26 PM   #40 
        - I finally got that  camero   Dec-29-03 11:04 AM   #144 
        - The answer is simple  fed2dneck   Dec-29-03 08:56 AM   #96 
  - A VERY overlooked fact. But the Fundies claim to believe in  blondeatlast   Dec-28-03 12:24 PM   #38 
     - Don't they have a difficult time obeying the OT and NT at the same time?  LiberalFighter   Dec-29-03 04:16 PM   # 
  - Reverand Dr. Forbes, of Riverside Church  TreasonousBastard   Dec-28-03 12:48 AM   #21 
  - Liberal Jew??  elfwitch   Dec-28-03 12:20 PM   #35 
     - OOOOOOOPPPS!!!!!!!  TiredTexan   Dec-28-03 07:47 PM   #77 
  - As a Born once atheist I thank you  usregimechange   Dec-28-03 12:26 AM   #17 
  - Thanks, James. . .  eileen from OH   Dec-28-03 02:42 AM   #22 
  - Not all Born Again Christians are political extremists...  RBHam   Dec-28-03 03:16 AM   #23 
  - 1976  ldoolin   Dec-28-03 10:22 AM   #24 
  - Follow the money  TrogL   Dec-28-03 07:10 PM   #74 
  - Great. You are the ones that need to make noise and need to  leesa   Dec-28-03 11:19 AM   #25 
  - You hit the nail on the head, Leesa.  blondeatlast   Dec-28-03 12:32 PM   #42 
  - Either that or they don't believe in God  LiberalFighter   Dec-29-03 04:18 PM   #197 
  - Wow, nicely said Leesa  truthseeker1   Dec-28-03 01:46 PM   #43 
  - I agree, change from within.  Sterling   Dec-28-03 03:38 PM   #50 
  - The problem with Xtianity is the same problem with accounting  stopbush   Dec-28-03 12:02 PM   #27 
  - I somewhat disagree  zeemike   Dec-28-03 07:07 PM   #73 
     - Whats with Paul?  Sterling   Dec-29-03 02:07 AM   #89 
        - It must be remembered  zeemike   Dec-29-03 06:49 AM   #90 
  - Sorry to burst your bubble - I was born right the first time - no need to  TankLV   Dec-28-03 12:17 PM   #32 
  - So I suppose now you're going to assume every Muslim is going to kill you?  breezygirl   Dec-28-03 12:29 PM   #41 
  - Well spoke.  stopbush   Dec-28-03 02:29 PM   #44 
  - Your points are well taken.  Karenina   Dec-28-03 03:57 PM   #57 
  - What's bullshit here is your inability to understand metaphors  Character Assassin   Dec-28-03 02:37 PM   #45 
  - I don't see any religious views being shoved around here except yours  Cheswick   Dec-28-03 06:09 PM   #58 
  - The original poster  Karenina   Dec-28-03 06:53 PM   #66 
     - Oh no not missionaries!  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 09:09 AM   #98 
        - I see most missionaries as bad people  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 10:10 AM   #110 
        - So then are liberals bad people?  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 10:13 AM   #111 
        - difference between actions and beliefs  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 10:18 AM   #113 
           - No difference at all  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 10:48 AM   #124 
              - but what god(s) a person worships have nothing to do with morality  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 10:56 AM   #134 
                 - I disagree  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 11:01 AM   #141 
                    - but I don't threaten people with eternal hellfire if they disagree  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 11:09 AM   #146 
                       - No but you seek to force your way with no less determination  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 11:13 AM   #150 
                          - I do?  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 11:19 AM   #156 
                             - yes you do  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 11:24 AM   #161 
                                - please link to a post  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 02:32 PM   #184 
                                - How many use the same bible but interpret the rules differently  LiberalFighter   Dec-29-03 04:22 PM   #198 
        - History Shows Us That Missionaries Destroy Cultures...  arwalden   Dec-29-03 10:37 AM   #121 
        - So then you have problems with morality and christianity  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 10:46 AM   #123 
        - You are inferring that natives of other lands have no morals until the  Lars39   Dec-29-03 10:49 AM   #125 
        - Oh geez  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 10:53 AM   #130 
           - In your own words:  Lars39   Dec-29-03 10:55 AM   #132 
              - Note I said  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 10:57 AM   #135 
                 - Sorry, you're still inferring that the natives have no morals unless  Lars39   Dec-29-03 11:02 AM   #142 
                    - No I'm not  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 11:05 AM   #145 
                       - So if they are moral and have their own religious beliefs,  Lars39   Dec-29-03 11:14 AM   #151 
                          - Because every group pushes their message  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 11:17 AM   #155 
                          - My view is to let the natives alone.  Lars39   Dec-29-03 11:20 AM   #157 
                          - And why shouldn't people decide for themselves without being pursued  LiberalFighter   Dec-29-03 04:25 PM   #199 
        - no, he's saying it's immoral to push your religious beliefs on others  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 10:50 AM   #127 
        - How is it so?  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 10:54 AM   #131 
           - history shows us that people who push religious beliefs tend to be evil  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 10:59 AM   #138 
           - lol sure if you only look at evil people as examples  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 11:03 AM   #143 
           - show me some examples of good missionaries then  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 11:11 AM   #149 
              - Go to africa  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 11:22 AM   #159 
              - I think I've got one example  LanternWaste   Dec-29-03 03:25 PM   #189 
           - Especially when the church was a major part of the state.  LiberalFighter   Dec-29-03 04:31 PM   #200 
           - No, not all groups push their religion onto others.  dawn   Dec-29-03 01:05 PM   #174 
        - Don't Be Silly. You're Wrong Again... Indeed It IS Pretty Much The "HOW"  arwalden   Dec-29-03 01:07 PM   #175 
        - I agree...  dawn   Dec-29-03 01:01 PM   #172 
        - Thanx Truthspeaker!  Karenina   Dec-29-03 11:16 AM   #154 
           - bingo  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 11:23 AM   #160 
        - I have called missionaries bad on DU  dawn   Dec-29-03 12:58 PM   #171 
        - I find the type of "missionaries"  Karenina   Dec-29-03 01:27 PM   #176 
        - It might help if you saw the original thread from LBN  oldcoot   Dec-29-03 04:16 PM   #196 
  - Who is shoving their religion down your throat?  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 09:04 AM   #97 
  - Some of you are not insane.  Sterling   Dec-28-03 03:24 PM   #47 
  - Holy Smokes  lumpy   Dec-28-03 03:36 PM   #49 
  - James you've got it  TeacherCreature   Dec-28-03 03:43 PM   #52 
  - There are lots of Followers of Jesus who vote progressive  GreenPartyVoter   Dec-28-03 06:14 PM   #60 
  - Those who don't cannot comprehend or  Karenina   Dec-28-03 07:24 PM   #76 
     - Muslims have more respect for Jesus  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 09:17 AM   #101 
        - Jesus is recognized as the #2 prophet by Muslims...  IrateCitizen   Dec-29-03 10:58 AM   #136 
           - nice rant  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 11:30 AM   #165 
  - There are Republicans who hate Bush too.  cqhayes   Dec-28-03 06:56 PM   #67 
  - wait  sujan   Dec-28-03 06:59 PM   #68 
  - I'm a deeply spiritual Christian and I'm also the most  scarlet_owl   Dec-28-03 06:59 PM   #69 
  - six of one half dozen of the other  mkultra   Dec-28-03 08:52 PM   #86 
  - Good for you!  JasonDeter   Dec-28-03 07:03 PM   #70 
  - As an atheist I will gladly join arms with anyone who is committed to  Marianne   Dec-28-03 07:06 PM   #72 
  - I love atheist  zeemike   Dec-28-03 07:21 PM   #75 
  - I know, and I was once a Christain, gone through the entire  Marianne   Dec-28-03 07:55 PM   #78 
     - I went to Catholic School myself  zeemike   Dec-28-03 09:34 PM   #88 
     - For me, it was the Lutherans that tried to steal my mind-  Beaker   Dec-29-03 03:02 PM   #187 
        - It depends on their definition of a Christian.  LiberalFighter   Dec-29-03 04:36 PM   #202 
  - I belong to a very large evangelical born again church  JasonDeter   Dec-28-03 07:57 PM   #79 
  - Jason I appreciate your input  Marianne   Dec-28-03 08:20 PM   #83 
  - Absolutely they do.  blondeatlast   Dec-28-03 08:35 PM   #84 
  - separation must be complete  mkultra   Dec-28-03 08:56 PM   #87 
  - A lot of people believe they're right  LanternWaste   Dec-28-03 08:13 PM   #82 
  - The term "Born Again Christians" is about as birdbrained as  0007   Dec-29-03 07:00 AM   #91 
  - Seriously, what did you hope to accomplish by posting that?  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 09:12 AM   #99 
  - because anyone can describe themself as a born-again Christian  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 09:39 AM   #104 
     - So what?  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 09:47 AM   #105 
        - I know what it means  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 10:08 AM   #107 
        - Once again, so what?  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 10:16 AM   #112 
           - what I'm saying is the term is so meaningless  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 10:25 AM   #117 
           - It is not meaningless  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 10:52 AM   #129 
              - again, I know what it is supposed to mean  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 02:08 PM   #178 
           - born again class of people?  0007   Dec-29-03 10:28 AM   #118 
              - what may that mean?  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 10:50 AM   #128 
        - I've Always Seen It As A "Status Symbol" And A Way To Judge Others  arwalden   Dec-29-03 10:46 AM   #122 
           - A Way To Judge Others?  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 10:50 AM   #126 
           - Oh Brother! You Know Better.  arwalden   Dec-29-03 11:49 AM   #167 
           - Hmmm...  LanternWaste   Dec-29-03 02:13 PM   #179 
              - Hi, LanternWaste!  arwalden   Dec-29-03 04:36 PM   #201 
  - Just saw something last night about that.  LiberalFighter   Dec-29-03 04:46 PM   #203 
  - I won't, but one question...  LeahMira   Dec-29-03 07:32 AM   #92 
  - I'll bite....  LanternWaste   Dec-29-03 02:29 PM   #183 
  - Hit and run--where's the original poster been lately?  blondeatlast   Dec-29-03 07:38 AM   #93 
  - Need a Democratic follower of Christ to flame?  Bertha Venation   Dec-29-03 03:06 PM   #188 
  - who's knocking you?  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 09:27 AM   #103 
  - You knock religious bigots?  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 09:49 AM   #106 
     - yes  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 10:08 AM   #108 
        - heh  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 10:19 AM   #114 
           - creationists are the biggest threat to American education  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 10:22 AM   #116 
              - Wow, that's a impressive chip you've got there  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 10:56 AM   #133 
                 - would you prefer America's children get a sub-standard science education?  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 11:00 AM   #139 
                    - I'd prefer they know the truth  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 11:10 AM   #147 
                       - I've never heard any of that anti-religion misinformation  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 11:16 AM   #153 
                          - You should have gone to my high school  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 11:20 AM   #158 
                             - I think you are extrapolating what went on in your high school to the  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 11:26 AM   #163 
                                - My point is if you only teach the bad  Blue_Chill   Dec-29-03 11:32 AM   #166 
                                   - that was my point too  truthspeaker   Dec-29-03 12:23 PM   #170 
  - I think all Christians should vote for Dems.  GOPBasher   Dec-29-03 10:09 AM   #109 
  - Have you heard of www.JesusNoRepublican.Org  JesusNoRepublican   Dec-29-03 02:19 PM   #182 
  - everybody's got to believe something........  blindpig   Dec-29-03 11:01 AM   #140 
  - I'm with you!  Karenina   Dec-29-03 11:26 AM   #162 
  - I'll have another joint instead  drdigi420   Dec-29-03 12:16 PM   #168 
  - Must be how Muslims feel. Not all fundamentalists.  spanone   Dec-29-03 03:53 PM   #192 
 

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