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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 12:50 PM
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33. I do believe it's fiction.
That said, I think you need to read some more of his specifics; he answers every question you just asked if youread through it some.

For example, "their" internet is better than "our" internet; theirs uses portable servers and (I think) functions wirelessly. Such devices could still be used if phone service went pffft.

As for his time machine, he never really says how it works, only that it's a simple device, one of those "DUH" moments in science. He also states that one of the reasons this wasn't invented before was because scientists weren't really willing to think out of the box regarding time travel during our time, but that during his, development of the same became seriously necessary.

He also claims that the bombs that were used (it wasn't WW3, it was, according to him, international blowback for the actions of the "American Federal Empire") wiped out major cities here, but there are areas that weren't devastated by them. Once people began (will begin? wioll haven be? wtf?) leaving the cities for rural areas (the ones left in the cities were the ones who Couldn't Leave Their Jobs, you know, the Important People we all wish would get theirs), the cities were bombed, and "we" were (will be?) the ones left over.

From his point of view (and I'm writing now on the assumption that everything he's saying is true, please, bear with me), what we're living right now is the beginning of the revolution. It's interesting that he mentions CJD as being a serious concern in the time he comes from, as that's about how much time needs to pass before symptoms of 'mad cow' become evident in humans. Given what I know about the situation at present- and it's apparently much wirse than we're being told about, folks, and this is from a pretty much unimpeachable source- CJD will become The Next Epidemic.

According to John, the civil war will be on everyone's doorstep and in everyone's homes by 2008. We'll have one president after that who wants to fix the situation but can't, and the president in office when the bombs drop will be concerned only with retaining his power base. Then the bombs will drop but, according to John, "we" will win, as the greedy corporate fatcats and such won't leave the cities and will be "removed" from our country and our society. In that respect, he considers that the "people" won the civil war.

That's just one thing that pops out on first read. Another thing he responded to was where in the US was 'safe'. Basically, nowhere is safe, according to him, but if you want to figure out where to go when things get real bad, he said "take a look at a county-by-county precinct map from your last election.

I don't really believe any of it, but there are a lot of interesting coincidences- like the computer he's supposedly here for, which can translate among three computer languages. Well, as it turn out, such a computer really does exist, it was built in the 1970s (by IBM, I think), and it had a completely undocumented ability to translate between the very same three languages John needs to translate to. Also, the guys who designed this computer back then apparently were under orders from their higher-ups to not reveal that special capability, as it would undermine sales of the company's more expensive newer models (at the time) that could not perform those translations.

I hope I got all that correct. It's one small fact that really makes me go hmmmmmm.
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  -scariest hoax yet - hoax or not, this needs dissemination homelandpunk  Dec-25-03 09:47 PM   #0 
  - we covered this already  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-25-03 09:50 PM   #1 
  - how do posts from DUers on that thread constitute proof of a hoax?  homelandpunk   Dec-25-03 10:19 PM   #5 
  - Sounds like a more imaginative version of the typical  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-25-03 09:53 PM   #2 
  - If his posts were pre-9/11, and he's from the future...  ret5hd   Dec-25-03 09:59 PM   #3 
  - a couple buildings falling down is a minor blip  homelandpunk   Dec-25-03 10:26 PM   #7 
  - Because of causality.  kgfnally   Dec-26-03 12:28 PM   #30 
     - ahh, but why wouldn't he want to change his current existence  DS1   Dec-26-03 01:39 PM   #39 
        - Well, he COULD change it, I suppose  kgfnally   Dec-26-03 02:18 PM   #42 
  - Thanks pretty scary the clock's ticking.  LibertyorDeath   Dec-25-03 10:01 PM   #4 
  - one reason why time travel is impossible...  Beaker   Dec-25-03 10:40 PM   #12 
     - you would use  kgfnally   Dec-26-03 12:32 PM   #32 
     - How about another reason  worldgonekrazy   Dec-26-03 01:35 PM   #38 
        - Different "worldlines" is the phrase he uses.  kgfnally   Dec-26-03 02:52 PM   #45 
  - And eat Wieners on plain buns, no condiments!  BiggJawn   Dec-25-03 10:21 PM   #6 
  - i'd read the story on the link  homelandpunk   Dec-25-03 10:32 PM   #9 
  - well that's what science fiction is supposed to do  maggrwaggr   Dec-25-03 11:01 PM   #17 
     - one of the more enlightened posts this morning!  Tansy_Gold   Dec-26-03 10:53 AM   #28 
  - Hey, we might as well have the whole Hank story as long as we're here  karlschneider   Dec-25-03 10:38 PM   #11 
  - Did he really use the term "Patriot Act?"  syrinx9999   Dec-25-03 10:29 PM   #8 
  - And if he did,  Paranoid_Portlander   Dec-26-03 01:44 PM   #40 
  - He didn' t disappear. Dumbya has him at GitMo  mouse7   Dec-25-03 10:35 PM   #10 
  - Bullshit.  name not needed   Dec-25-03 10:47 PM   #13 
  - Here's an actual professor working on a time machine  syrinx9999   Dec-25-03 10:50 PM   #14 
  - Oh, come on  scottcsmith   Dec-25-03 11:00 PM   #15 
  - the reality is  name not needed   Dec-25-03 11:03 PM   #18 
  - That is an incredibly terrifying movie.  ryharrin   Dec-26-03 12:38 AM   #24 
  - it is a national telephone service he talks about..  frylock   Dec-25-03 11:43 PM   #20 
  - Great plan...  scottcsmith   Dec-26-03 01:40 AM   #25 
     - According to him,  kgfnally   Dec-26-03 12:56 PM   #34 
  - I do believe it's fiction.  kgfnally   Dec-26-03 12:50 PM   #33 
  - Too many variables  name not needed   Dec-25-03 11:00 PM   #16 
  - Amusing analysis of "Titor"'s story...  JDWalley   Dec-25-03 11:34 PM   #19 
  - And as for Titor's mysterious disappearance,  Laszlo_Hollyfeld   Dec-26-03 12:09 AM   #23 
     - From concept to completion,  kgfnally   Dec-26-03 01:07 PM   #36 
  - As someone who has been reading science fiction  SheilaT   Dec-25-03 11:55 PM   #21 
  - agree n/t  mouse7   Dec-25-03 11:57 PM   #22 
     - i think  uncle ray   Dec-26-03 10:20 AM   #26 
        - time travel should actually be called time & space travel.  Beaker   Dec-26-03 10:28 AM   #27 
        - He can't give us technical details.  kgfnally   Dec-26-03 01:04 PM   #35 
  - I suppose we just have to see if Civil War starts next year. :)  beyurslf   Dec-26-03 12:21 PM   #29 
  - I think someone has watched Terminator too many times n/t  sistersofmercy   Dec-26-03 12:29 PM   #31 
  - yeah really  name not needed   Dec-26-03 02:20 PM   #43 
  - Who would be afraid of death in a world like that described?  loudnclear   Dec-26-03 01:13 PM   #37 
  - I hope nobody here believes this crap  evil_orange_cat   Dec-26-03 01:46 PM   #41 
  - Wow.. That is whats ging to happen. Pretty accurate too..  wanderingbear   Dec-26-03 02:24 PM   #44 

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