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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 06:54 PM
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129. We all have our crosses to bear.
Ignorance offends me, for example.

I could offer a faux-apology about political correctness just to cover myself, but that kind of intellectual cowardice offends me too.

I think I'll just encode my prejudices as logical so that I no longer have to examine them. Is that the idea?

Good grief!
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  -Question about the obesity discussion: karlschneider  Dec-23-03 06:28 PM   #0 
  - i think it has to do with  7th_Sephiroth   Dec-23-03 06:30 PM   #1 
  - Huh?  wryter2000   Dec-23-03 06:32 PM   #2 
  - No you are not missing something. It is precisely my POINT!  karlschneider   Dec-23-03 06:39 PM   #7 
     - Even if someone is very obese, if they simply stop eating  DuctapeFatwa   Dec-23-03 06:49 PM   #11 
        - If you eat more calories than you burn you gain weight.  creativelcro   Dec-23-03 07:47 PM   #33 
        - You speak the truth.  PHDiva   Dec-24-03 10:54 AM   #98 
  - Wow-talk about lack of empathy  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 06:34 PM   #3 
  - No. "Fat stores" will be burned off with activity. They will go away if  karlschneider   Dec-23-03 06:38 PM   #6 
     - Not true.  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 06:45 PM   #9 
     - I don't disagree  Dr. Wu   Dec-23-03 07:08 PM   #19 
     - "although poor, has better health care..."  Isome   Dec-24-03 03:01 AM   #73 
        - I have to pay for my own health care  Dr. Wu   Dec-24-03 06:47 AM   #79 
     - I can attest to that as well  PHDiva   Dec-24-03 11:10 AM   #100 
     - some diet foods actually make you gain weight  ayeshahaqqiqa   Dec-23-03 07:11 PM   #20 
     - The Atkins diet shows it's not just about calories  maggrwaggr   Dec-23-03 11:00 PM   #52 
        - That's a common misconception about Atkins  Argumentus   Dec-23-03 11:14 PM   #56 
           - There was a study recently with three control groups  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 11:19 PM   #58 
           - uh ... I'd like to trust you but my personal experience says otherwise  maggrwaggr   Dec-24-03 02:50 AM   #69 
           - The thing about Adkins....  deseo   Dec-26-03 04:46 PM   #149 
  - The weight of the food is not so related to the weight gained  DuctapeFatwa   Dec-23-03 06:36 PM   #4 
  - Yes, I understand your point, but the caloric values of various foods  karlschneider   Dec-23-03 06:55 PM   #14 
  - Another factor  ayeshahaqqiqa   Dec-23-03 07:15 PM   #22 
  - it's not impossible  dfong63   Dec-23-03 08:20 PM   #37 
  - Yes, it is.  lolly   Dec-23-03 10:56 PM   #50 
  - "I eat when I'm Hungry"  BiggJawn   Dec-23-03 10:32 PM   #42 
  - Unfortunately  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 10:48 PM   #46 
  - well said  minkyboodle   Dec-24-03 03:01 AM   #72 
  - you may not be fat...  Nazgul35   Dec-23-03 11:15 PM   #57 
  - Bully for you. I'm the weight I'm supposed to be, too, BUT  blondeatlast   Dec-26-03 08:19 AM   #139 
  - Okay, here's your quote  karlschneider   Dec-23-03 07:06 PM   #16 
     - They might have better luck eating 6 little meals  DuctapeFatwa   Dec-23-03 08:14 PM   #36 
     - Right again.  PHDiva   Dec-24-03 11:35 AM   #103 
     - Karl, I'm a Diabetic.  BiggJawn   Dec-23-03 10:38 PM   #43 
        - You're overweight, KS is egotistical, I'm vain.  blondeatlast   Dec-26-03 08:14 AM   #138 
  - I have years of experience in the weight loss business  Dr. Wu   Dec-23-03 06:36 PM   #5 
  - Thank you for supporting my contention. And welcome to DU!  karlschneider   Dec-23-03 06:41 PM   #8 
  - Well, he/she sort of supported it...and sort of didn't...  Enraged_Ape   Dec-23-03 06:52 PM   #12 
  - Again, not true  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 06:47 PM   #10 
  - Are you with me Dr. Wu?  woofless   Dec-23-03 06:53 PM   #13 
  - Dr. Wu, people can be sedentary but only ROCKS are sedimentary.  DemBones DemBones   Dec-23-03 10:54 PM   #49 
  - Thank you  Dr. Wu   Dec-24-03 06:49 AM   #80 
  - "sedimentary lives"???  Isome   Dec-24-03 03:07 AM   #74 
  - Yes  Dr. Wu   Dec-24-03 06:50 AM   #81 
  - LOL...  creativelcro   Dec-24-03 04:16 PM   #114 
  - Activity does play a large role  haruka3_2000   Dec-26-03 06:17 PM   #154 
  - I have known a couple of slim foxy women who got a flu like c;ondition  sam sarrha   Dec-23-03 07:02 PM   #15 
  - That is impossible.  karlschneider   Dec-23-03 07:07 PM   #18 
     - how would you know, Karl? Are you a doctor?  maggrwaggr   Dec-23-03 11:02 PM   #54 
  - Your Body combines water with the food to make fat.  happyslug   Dec-23-03 07:06 PM   #17 
  - Right, but I think Karl's point was,  Snow   Dec-23-03 07:21 PM   #23 
  - Human beings don't always conform to nice, neat scientific diagnosis  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 07:31 PM   #25 
  - Well, I thought I was, too,  Snow   Dec-23-03 07:42 PM   #30 
  - "losing hair in clumps"?????  BiggJawn   Dec-23-03 10:43 PM   #44 
  - It's a symptom of hypothyroidism  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 10:52 PM   #48 
  - How do the outer third of your eyebrows look?  Snow   Dec-23-03 10:57 PM   #51 
     - Cholesterol often rises if your thyroid is out of whack  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 11:09 PM   #55 
     - What outer third?  BiggJawn   Dec-23-03 11:21 PM   #59 
        - Ooops. Well, um, that sorta nails it, doesn't it Jawn - and your pulse  Snow   Dec-24-03 12:03 AM   #62 
        - BiggJawn...  Sapphocrat   Dec-24-03 12:56 AM   #67 
           - No, just the hair going away...  BiggJawn   Dec-24-03 06:36 AM   #77 
              - More free advice (take it for what it's worth)  Snow   Dec-24-03 10:40 AM   #95 
                 - That was me invoking Fixx.  BiggJawn   Dec-24-03 02:59 PM   #109 
                    - Yeah, but you see, you've got a lot of nasty risk factors coming at you...  Snow   Dec-24-03 03:30 PM   #111 
                       - Yeah, it don't look good right now, but....  BiggJawn   Dec-25-03 02:05 AM   #119 
                       - Statins? Benign? Since When?  REP   Dec-25-03 06:53 AM   #120 
                          - Benign is phrasing it a little stronger than what I said......  Snow   Dec-25-03 11:06 AM   #122 
                          - I have been on Satins for over 15 years  happyslug   Dec-25-03 06:13 PM   #126 
  - While I agree with karl...  deseo   Dec-26-03 04:59 PM   #151 
  - Yes, you have grasped my point, made in the realm of practical physics  karlschneider   Dec-23-03 07:42 PM   #29 
  - Yes, you caught my typo; thanks....that;'s what I meant....  Snow   Dec-23-03 08:47 PM   #39 
  - My point was weight gain is more than food intake  happyslug   Dec-23-03 08:05 PM   #34 
  - Yes, of course. One calorie is the amount of energy required to raise  karlschneider   Dec-23-03 07:23 PM   #24 
     - umm, perhaps you would benefit from a basic review of  treepig   Dec-24-03 06:56 AM   #82 
     - You don't read too good, do ya, Karl?  Enraged_Ape   Dec-24-03 07:31 AM   #83 
  - Check this out  oldcoot   Dec-23-03 07:12 PM   #21 
  - I liked the last sentence in that report  happyslug   Dec-23-03 07:41 PM   #28 
     - Appetite Seems to Be the Key  lolly   Dec-23-03 11:28 PM   #61 
        - Excellent point, (even though I mentioned it already, ahem)....  Snow   Dec-24-03 12:07 AM   #63 
        - yeah  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 12:24 AM   #132 
        - Shame on you! You enjoy your food?! Naughty girl!  blondeatlast   Dec-26-03 08:24 AM   #140 
  - There are very few 300lbs europeans  exCav   Dec-23-03 07:35 PM   #26 
  - Less additives in food in Europe  RationalRose   Dec-23-03 07:45 PM   #32 
  - if that's all there is to it then why don't I weigh 20,000 pounds?  librechik   Dec-23-03 07:40 PM   #27 
  - I would surmise you have shat ~19,850 pounds.  karlschneider   Dec-23-03 07:44 PM   #31 
     - But you use 2500 calorie a day just living  happyslug   Dec-23-03 08:32 PM   #38 
        - Thanks for the links!  BiggJawn   Dec-23-03 10:50 PM   #47 
        - Remember it is a guideline  happyslug   Dec-25-03 06:21 PM   #127 
        - I'd be very careful...  deseo   Dec-26-03 05:42 PM   #152 
  - There are deceases which will cause people...  foreigncorrespondent   Dec-23-03 08:10 PM   #35 
  - I wish the hell I knew, Karl.  BiggJawn   Dec-23-03 10:19 PM   #40 
  - How dare youy question Karl? I mean, God?  blondeatlast   Dec-26-03 08:26 AM   #141 
  - People, get serious.  Iverson   Dec-23-03 10:23 PM   #41 
  - But it's oh so fun  Le Taz Hot   Dec-24-03 09:55 AM   #92 
     - At other people's parties--at the parties I throw, food is the stellar  blondeatlast   Dec-26-03 08:29 AM   #143 
     - As my blunt family would say,  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 09:39 AM   #145 
  - That's why I stay away from heavy foods  Devlzown   Dec-23-03 10:44 PM   #45 
  - Absolutely sickening  chefgirl   Dec-23-03 11:00 PM   #53 
  - How can anyone reach the age of 60 or above...  Nazgul35   Dec-23-03 11:26 PM   #60 
  - Gadzooks, guy!  Sapphocrat   Dec-24-03 12:42 AM   #64 
  - Karl...  foreigncorrespondent   Dec-24-03 12:47 AM   #65 
  - The human body manufacturers saturated fats, even  Laszlo_Hollyfeld   Dec-24-03 12:55 AM   #66 
  - It's a disease  Maine Mary   Dec-24-03 01:33 AM   #68 
  - Mary, you're smarter than that.  BiggJawn   Dec-24-03 06:41 AM   #78 
  - Not all medical "excuses" are bullshit  minkyboodle   Dec-24-03 02:58 AM   #70 
  - Dude, all I know is . . .  ermoore   Dec-24-03 02:58 AM   #71 
  - Americans are fast food junkies ...  Isome   Dec-24-03 03:12 AM   #75 
     - I know, but  ermoore   Dec-24-03 03:18 AM   #76 
  - Coming in late, but I hope you read this.  NicoleM   Dec-24-03 08:02 AM   #84 
  - what loving compassion your sister must feel from you ...NOT  ElsewheresDaughter   Dec-24-03 08:17 AM   #85 
  - I can't believe this kind of bigotry is at DU  curse10   Dec-24-03 08:43 AM   #86 
  - are you by any chance nearing menopause?  spooky3   Dec-24-03 08:53 AM   #88 
     - She's a youngun, spooky3  RationalRose   Dec-24-03 09:44 AM   #90 
     - I'm only 25  curse10   Dec-24-03 11:27 AM   #101 
        - well then that's not it :-)!  spooky3   Dec-24-03 04:25 PM   #115 
  - I'm surprised no one has mentioned another set of factors...  spooky3   Dec-24-03 08:48 AM   #87 
  - Mention.  Snow   Dec-24-03 10:52 AM   #96 
     - thanks for sharing your medical and scientific knowledge  spooky3   Dec-24-03 04:55 PM   #117 
        - You're quite welcome, although what upsets me is  Snow   Dec-24-03 11:35 PM   #118 
  - Most obese people simply eat too much and exercise too little.  HuckleB   Dec-24-03 09:39 AM   #89 
  - HuckleB  elmariachi   Dec-24-03 09:47 AM   #91 
  - It's not that simple. You obviously haven't done research.  RationalRose   Dec-24-03 10:11 AM   #93 
     - Sorry, but it's not that simple either.  HuckleB   Dec-24-03 10:53 AM   #97 
     - Yes, Pyramid is all outta whack  lolly   Dec-24-03 12:05 PM   #105 
        - The key to pasta and bread is to go whole grain  curse10   Dec-24-03 01:26 PM   #107 
  - You may be right but  NicoleM   Dec-24-03 11:09 AM   #99 
     - My sister-in-law is thin but is not a light eater  oldcoot   Dec-24-03 11:48 AM   #104 
     - Who was judging?  HuckleB   Dec-24-03 01:25 PM   #106 
  - The eating habits are a weight enemy.  BonjourUSA   Dec-24-03 10:29 AM   #94 
  - Do you have plenty of areas for children to safely play?  oldcoot   Dec-24-03 11:33 AM   #102 
  - Comments on this thread sound like Bush I Republicans  RationalRose   Dec-24-03 02:16 PM   #108 
  - "...my own sister who is fat as a pig"  EV1Ltimm   Dec-24-03 03:10 PM   #110 
  - "fat as a pig" does not mean that she is a pig, right ?  creativelcro   Dec-25-03 12:47 PM   #125 
  - Metabolism is an issue  Nikia   Dec-24-03 03:41 PM   #112 
  - OMG Karl  MadHound   Dec-24-03 03:41 PM   #113 
  - the sad thing is, she and he probably take in the same #  spooky3   Dec-24-03 04:33 PM   #116 
  - Certain neurotransmitters are involved  teryang   Dec-25-03 09:44 AM   #121 
  - Pollution  undergroundpanther   Dec-25-03 11:40 AM   #123 
  - 1cal + 1cal = 2cal  BonjourUSA   Dec-25-03 12:03 PM   #124 
  - I am not commenting on this discussion  Marianne   Dec-25-03 06:47 PM   #128 
  - We all have our crosses to bear.  Iverson   Dec-25-03 06:54 PM   #129 
  - actually that is probably the best thing to do  Marianne   Dec-26-03 07:42 AM   #137 
     - Eat too much and you get fat  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 04:09 PM   #146 
        - My very wise mother was fond of saying to me  Marianne   Dec-26-03 04:55 PM   #150 
        - Gall bladder removal surgery  JulieRB   Dec-26-03 08:35 PM   #155 
        - Everybodys metabolism  deseo   Dec-26-03 05:45 PM   #153 
  - Even more offensive to me  RationalRose   Dec-25-03 09:38 PM   #130 
  - excellent post.  jonnyblitz   Dec-26-03 08:29 AM   #142 
     - And it's perfectly acceptable to have this anorexic attitude in society  RationalRose   Dec-26-03 09:37 AM   #144 
  - Stupidity is Offensive  REP   Dec-26-03 01:19 AM   #134 
  - Oh, Karl...  LiberalTexan   Dec-25-03 10:15 PM   #131 
  - This thread makes me want to puke, or eat a gallon of ice cream  eileen_d   Dec-26-03 12:48 AM   #133 
  - I don't have a medical background  1songbird   Dec-26-03 02:50 AM   #135 
  - I gained 45 lbs. of water weight five years ago from a medication.  northwest   Dec-26-03 05:29 AM   #136 
  - "I think medications can play a role in it too"  private_ryan   Dec-26-03 04:28 PM   #148 
  - I think  dawn   Dec-26-03 04:23 PM   #147 
  - Karl's Sister  K8-EEE   Dec-26-03 10:15 PM   #156 
     - I eat less and gain more  union_maid   Dec-26-03 11:19 PM   #157 
 

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