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Tue Dec-23-03 07:06 PM
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| 16. Okay, here's your quote |
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"Individual body metabolism can also be a factor. Some people will take longer to burn off food than others, even if both eat the same thing, and engage in the same activities."
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That is exactly correct! The operative part is of course, "longer to burn off food..."
If it takes longer, it only makes sense to WAIT LONGER before eating MORE.
I drive a Honda that gets about 39 MPG. I don't fill the thing up after every 10 mile drive. (Not, admittedly the world's greatest analogy, but I think it somewhat makes the point...)
I have a number of obese friends. I do not hate, despise or insult them, but I do observe that they all adhere to a regimen of "three squares a day" that provide WAY more 'nourishment' than they actually need. Result: fat. Unhealthy. Unattractive to many. Even, in some cases, self-loathing. I don't think it is a good thing.
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| -Question about the obesity discussion: |
karlschneider |
Dec-23-03 06:28 PM |
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i think it has to do with |
7th_Sephiroth |
Dec-23-03 06:30 PM |
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Huh? |
wryter2000 |
Dec-23-03 06:32 PM |
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No you are not missing something. It is precisely my POINT! |
karlschneider |
Dec-23-03 06:39 PM |
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Even if someone is very obese, if they simply stop eating |
DuctapeFatwa |
Dec-23-03 06:49 PM |
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If you eat more calories than you burn you gain weight. |
creativelcro |
Dec-23-03 07:47 PM |
#33 |
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You speak the truth. |
PHDiva |
Dec-24-03 10:54 AM |
#98 |
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Wow-talk about lack of empathy |
RationalRose |
Dec-23-03 06:34 PM |
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No. "Fat stores" will be burned off with activity. They will go away if |
karlschneider |
Dec-23-03 06:38 PM |
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Not true. |
RationalRose |
Dec-23-03 06:45 PM |
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I don't disagree |
Dr. Wu |
Dec-23-03 07:08 PM |
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"although poor, has better health care..." |
Isome |
Dec-24-03 03:01 AM |
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I have to pay for my own health care |
Dr. Wu |
Dec-24-03 06:47 AM |
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I can attest to that as well |
PHDiva |
Dec-24-03 11:10 AM |
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some diet foods actually make you gain weight |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Dec-23-03 07:11 PM |
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The Atkins diet shows it's not just about calories |
maggrwaggr |
Dec-23-03 11:00 PM |
#52 |
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That's a common misconception about Atkins |
Argumentus |
Dec-23-03 11:14 PM |
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There was a study recently with three control groups |
RationalRose |
Dec-23-03 11:19 PM |
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uh ... I'd like to trust you but my personal experience says otherwise |
maggrwaggr |
Dec-24-03 02:50 AM |
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The thing about Adkins.... |
deseo |
Dec-26-03 04:46 PM |
#149 |
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The weight of the food is not so related to the weight gained |
DuctapeFatwa |
Dec-23-03 06:36 PM |
#4 |
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Yes, I understand your point, but the caloric values of various foods |
karlschneider |
Dec-23-03 06:55 PM |
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Another factor |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Dec-23-03 07:15 PM |
#22 |
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it's not impossible |
dfong63 |
Dec-23-03 08:20 PM |
#37 |
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Yes, it is. |
lolly |
Dec-23-03 10:56 PM |
#50 |
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"I eat when I'm Hungry" |
BiggJawn |
Dec-23-03 10:32 PM |
#42 |
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Unfortunately |
RationalRose |
Dec-23-03 10:48 PM |
#46 |
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well said |
minkyboodle |
Dec-24-03 03:01 AM |
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you may not be fat... |
Nazgul35 |
Dec-23-03 11:15 PM |
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Bully for you. I'm the weight I'm supposed to be, too, BUT |
blondeatlast |
Dec-26-03 08:19 AM |
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Okay, here's your quote |
karlschneider |
Dec-23-03 07:06 PM |
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They might have better luck eating 6 little meals |
DuctapeFatwa |
Dec-23-03 08:14 PM |
#36 |
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Right again. |
PHDiva |
Dec-24-03 11:35 AM |
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Karl, I'm a Diabetic. |
BiggJawn |
Dec-23-03 10:38 PM |
#43 |
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You're overweight, KS is egotistical, I'm vain. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-26-03 08:14 AM |
#138 |
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I have years of experience in the weight loss business |
Dr. Wu |
Dec-23-03 06:36 PM |
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Thank you for supporting my contention. And welcome to DU! |
karlschneider |
Dec-23-03 06:41 PM |
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Well, he/she sort of supported it...and sort of didn't... |
Enraged_Ape |
Dec-23-03 06:52 PM |
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Again, not true |
RationalRose |
Dec-23-03 06:47 PM |
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Are you with me Dr. Wu? |
woofless |
Dec-23-03 06:53 PM |
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Dr. Wu, people can be sedentary but only ROCKS are sedimentary. |
DemBones DemBones |
Dec-23-03 10:54 PM |
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Thank you |
Dr. Wu |
Dec-24-03 06:49 AM |
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"sedimentary lives"??? |
Isome |
Dec-24-03 03:07 AM |
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Yes |
Dr. Wu |
Dec-24-03 06:50 AM |
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LOL... |
creativelcro |
Dec-24-03 04:16 PM |
#114 |
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Activity does play a large role |
haruka3_2000 |
Dec-26-03 06:17 PM |
#154 |
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I have known a couple of slim foxy women who got a flu like c;ondition |
sam sarrha |
Dec-23-03 07:02 PM |
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That is impossible. |
karlschneider |
Dec-23-03 07:07 PM |
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how would you know, Karl? Are you a doctor? |
maggrwaggr |
Dec-23-03 11:02 PM |
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Your Body combines water with the food to make fat. |
happyslug |
Dec-23-03 07:06 PM |
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Right, but I think Karl's point was, |
Snow |
Dec-23-03 07:21 PM |
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Human beings don't always conform to nice, neat scientific diagnosis |
RationalRose |
Dec-23-03 07:31 PM |
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Well, I thought I was, too, |
Snow |
Dec-23-03 07:42 PM |
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"losing hair in clumps"????? |
BiggJawn |
Dec-23-03 10:43 PM |
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It's a symptom of hypothyroidism |
RationalRose |
Dec-23-03 10:52 PM |
#48 |
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How do the outer third of your eyebrows look? |
Snow |
Dec-23-03 10:57 PM |
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Cholesterol often rises if your thyroid is out of whack |
RationalRose |
Dec-23-03 11:09 PM |
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What outer third? |
BiggJawn |
Dec-23-03 11:21 PM |
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Ooops. Well, um, that sorta nails it, doesn't it Jawn - and your pulse |
Snow |
Dec-24-03 12:03 AM |
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BiggJawn... |
Sapphocrat |
Dec-24-03 12:56 AM |
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No, just the hair going away... |
BiggJawn |
Dec-24-03 06:36 AM |
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More free advice (take it for what it's worth) |
Snow |
Dec-24-03 10:40 AM |
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That was me invoking Fixx. |
BiggJawn |
Dec-24-03 02:59 PM |
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Yeah, but you see, you've got a lot of nasty risk factors coming at you... |
Snow |
Dec-24-03 03:30 PM |
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Yeah, it don't look good right now, but.... |
BiggJawn |
Dec-25-03 02:05 AM |
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Statins? Benign? Since When? |
REP |
Dec-25-03 06:53 AM |
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Benign is phrasing it a little stronger than what I said...... |
Snow |
Dec-25-03 11:06 AM |
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I have been on Satins for over 15 years |
happyslug |
Dec-25-03 06:13 PM |
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While I agree with karl... |
deseo |
Dec-26-03 04:59 PM |
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Yes, you have grasped my point, made in the realm of practical physics |
karlschneider |
Dec-23-03 07:42 PM |
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Yes, you caught my typo; thanks....that;'s what I meant.... |
Snow |
Dec-23-03 08:47 PM |
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My point was weight gain is more than food intake |
happyslug |
Dec-23-03 08:05 PM |
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Yes, of course. One calorie is the amount of energy required to raise |
karlschneider |
Dec-23-03 07:23 PM |
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umm, perhaps you would benefit from a basic review of |
treepig |
Dec-24-03 06:56 AM |
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You don't read too good, do ya, Karl? |
Enraged_Ape |
Dec-24-03 07:31 AM |
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Check this out |
oldcoot |
Dec-23-03 07:12 PM |
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I liked the last sentence in that report |
happyslug |
Dec-23-03 07:41 PM |
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Appetite Seems to Be the Key |
lolly |
Dec-23-03 11:28 PM |
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Excellent point, (even though I mentioned it already, ahem).... |
Snow |
Dec-24-03 12:07 AM |
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yeah |
private_ryan |
Dec-26-03 12:24 AM |
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Shame on you! You enjoy your food?! Naughty girl! |
blondeatlast |
Dec-26-03 08:24 AM |
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There are very few 300lbs europeans |
exCav |
Dec-23-03 07:35 PM |
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Less additives in food in Europe |
RationalRose |
Dec-23-03 07:45 PM |
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if that's all there is to it then why don't I weigh 20,000 pounds? |
librechik |
Dec-23-03 07:40 PM |
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I would surmise you have shat ~19,850 pounds. |
karlschneider |
Dec-23-03 07:44 PM |
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But you use 2500 calorie a day just living |
happyslug |
Dec-23-03 08:32 PM |
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Thanks for the links! |
BiggJawn |
Dec-23-03 10:50 PM |
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Remember it is a guideline |
happyslug |
Dec-25-03 06:21 PM |
#127 |
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I'd be very careful... |
deseo |
Dec-26-03 05:42 PM |
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There are deceases which will cause people... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Dec-23-03 08:10 PM |
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I wish the hell I knew, Karl. |
BiggJawn |
Dec-23-03 10:19 PM |
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How dare youy question Karl? I mean, God? |
blondeatlast |
Dec-26-03 08:26 AM |
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People, get serious. |
Iverson |
Dec-23-03 10:23 PM |
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But it's oh so fun |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-24-03 09:55 AM |
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At other people's parties--at the parties I throw, food is the stellar |
blondeatlast |
Dec-26-03 08:29 AM |
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As my blunt family would say, |
RationalRose |
Dec-26-03 09:39 AM |
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That's why I stay away from heavy foods |
Devlzown |
Dec-23-03 10:44 PM |
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Absolutely sickening |
chefgirl |
Dec-23-03 11:00 PM |
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How can anyone reach the age of 60 or above... |
Nazgul35 |
Dec-23-03 11:26 PM |
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Gadzooks, guy! |
Sapphocrat |
Dec-24-03 12:42 AM |
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Karl... |
foreigncorrespondent |
Dec-24-03 12:47 AM |
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The human body manufacturers saturated fats, even |
Laszlo_Hollyfeld |
Dec-24-03 12:55 AM |
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It's a disease |
Maine Mary |
Dec-24-03 01:33 AM |
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Mary, you're smarter than that. |
BiggJawn |
Dec-24-03 06:41 AM |
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Not all medical "excuses" are bullshit |
minkyboodle |
Dec-24-03 02:58 AM |
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Dude, all I know is . . . |
ermoore |
Dec-24-03 02:58 AM |
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Americans are fast food junkies ... |
Isome |
Dec-24-03 03:12 AM |
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I know, but |
ermoore |
Dec-24-03 03:18 AM |
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Coming in late, but I hope you read this. |
NicoleM |
Dec-24-03 08:02 AM |
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what loving compassion your sister must feel from you ...NOT |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Dec-24-03 08:17 AM |
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I can't believe this kind of bigotry is at DU |
curse10 |
Dec-24-03 08:43 AM |
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are you by any chance nearing menopause? |
spooky3 |
Dec-24-03 08:53 AM |
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She's a youngun, spooky3 |
RationalRose |
Dec-24-03 09:44 AM |
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I'm only 25 |
curse10 |
Dec-24-03 11:27 AM |
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well then that's not it :-)! |
spooky3 |
Dec-24-03 04:25 PM |
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned another set of factors... |
spooky3 |
Dec-24-03 08:48 AM |
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Mention. |
Snow |
Dec-24-03 10:52 AM |
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thanks for sharing your medical and scientific knowledge |
spooky3 |
Dec-24-03 04:55 PM |
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You're quite welcome, although what upsets me is |
Snow |
Dec-24-03 11:35 PM |
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Most obese people simply eat too much and exercise too little. |
HuckleB |
Dec-24-03 09:39 AM |
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HuckleB |
elmariachi |
Dec-24-03 09:47 AM |
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It's not that simple. You obviously haven't done research. |
RationalRose |
Dec-24-03 10:11 AM |
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Sorry, but it's not that simple either. |
HuckleB |
Dec-24-03 10:53 AM |
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Yes, Pyramid is all outta whack |
lolly |
Dec-24-03 12:05 PM |
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The key to pasta and bread is to go whole grain |
curse10 |
Dec-24-03 01:26 PM |
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You may be right but |
NicoleM |
Dec-24-03 11:09 AM |
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My sister-in-law is thin but is not a light eater |
oldcoot |
Dec-24-03 11:48 AM |
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Who was judging? |
HuckleB |
Dec-24-03 01:25 PM |
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The eating habits are a weight enemy. |
BonjourUSA |
Dec-24-03 10:29 AM |
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Do you have plenty of areas for children to safely play? |
oldcoot |
Dec-24-03 11:33 AM |
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Comments on this thread sound like Bush I Republicans |
RationalRose |
Dec-24-03 02:16 PM |
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"...my own sister who is fat as a pig" |
EV1Ltimm |
Dec-24-03 03:10 PM |
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"fat as a pig" does not mean that she is a pig, right ? |
creativelcro |
Dec-25-03 12:47 PM |
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Metabolism is an issue |
Nikia |
Dec-24-03 03:41 PM |
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OMG Karl |
MadHound |
Dec-24-03 03:41 PM |
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the sad thing is, she and he probably take in the same # |
spooky3 |
Dec-24-03 04:33 PM |
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Certain neurotransmitters are involved |
teryang |
Dec-25-03 09:44 AM |
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Pollution |
undergroundpanther |
Dec-25-03 11:40 AM |
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1cal + 1cal = 2cal |
BonjourUSA |
Dec-25-03 12:03 PM |
#124 |
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I am not commenting on this discussion |
Marianne |
Dec-25-03 06:47 PM |
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We all have our crosses to bear. |
Iverson |
Dec-25-03 06:54 PM |
#129 |
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actually that is probably the best thing to do |
Marianne |
Dec-26-03 07:42 AM |
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Eat too much and you get fat |
RationalRose |
Dec-26-03 04:09 PM |
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My very wise mother was fond of saying to me |
Marianne |
Dec-26-03 04:55 PM |
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Gall bladder removal surgery |
JulieRB |
Dec-26-03 08:35 PM |
#155 |
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Everybodys metabolism |
deseo |
Dec-26-03 05:45 PM |
#153 |
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Even more offensive to me |
RationalRose |
Dec-25-03 09:38 PM |
#130 |
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excellent post. |
jonnyblitz |
Dec-26-03 08:29 AM |
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And it's perfectly acceptable to have this anorexic attitude in society |
RationalRose |
Dec-26-03 09:37 AM |
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Stupidity is Offensive |
REP |
Dec-26-03 01:19 AM |
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Oh, Karl... |
LiberalTexan |
Dec-25-03 10:15 PM |
#131 |
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This thread makes me want to puke, or eat a gallon of ice cream |
eileen_d |
Dec-26-03 12:48 AM |
#133 |
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I don't have a medical background |
1songbird |
Dec-26-03 02:50 AM |
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I gained 45 lbs. of water weight five years ago from a medication. |
northwest |
Dec-26-03 05:29 AM |
#136 |
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"I think medications can play a role in it too" |
private_ryan |
Dec-26-03 04:28 PM |
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I think |
dawn |
Dec-26-03 04:23 PM |
#147 |
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Karl's Sister |
K8-EEE |
Dec-26-03 10:15 PM |
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I eat less and gain more |
union_maid |
Dec-26-03 11:19 PM |
#157 |
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