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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 10:05 PM
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6. thanks for the support
that story and the others I've read realated to it really gassed me
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  -Why I Don't Support Banning Headscarfs liberalpragmatist  Dec-21-03 09:42 PM   #0 
  - I wish you could here me applauding.  LiberalVoice   Dec-21-03 09:45 PM   #1 
  - It's interesting how those who favor it don't favor banning beards  DuctapeFatwa   Dec-21-03 09:47 PM   #2 
  - Practical consideration  Lydia Leftcoast   Dec-21-03 09:55 PM   #3 
  - Lots of thoughts here...  LeahMira   Dec-25-03 09:01 AM   #89 
     - A word from a progressive atheist...  Sir Craig   Dec-26-03 10:44 AM   #102 
  - Lets keep that other thread alive too  wuushew   Dec-21-03 09:59 PM   #4 
  - thanks for the support  arewethereyet   Dec-21-03 10:05 PM   #6 
  - Fascism?  Paschall   Dec-21-03 10:12 PM   #8 
  - I don't believe that this has anything to do with any of that  arewethereyet   Dec-21-03 10:04 PM   #5 
  - Wait a minute  auburnblu   Dec-21-03 10:11 PM   #7 
  - Someone on the other thread said religious symbols cannot be visible  DuctapeFatwa   Dec-21-03 10:15 PM   #9 
     - what about a (christian) cross?  rman   Dec-22-03 12:51 AM   #25 
     - Hey!  PsychoDad   Dec-22-03 05:59 AM   #37 
        - Beards aren't necessarily religious. Hijab are.  OldSoldier   Dec-22-03 06:13 AM   #40 
           - Scarves  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-22-03 06:15 AM   #41 
              - You shouldn't stop her at all. We shouldn't be having this discussion...  OldSoldier   Dec-22-03 01:40 PM   #62 
  - That was my first thought, too...  LeahMira   Dec-25-03 12:23 PM   #98 
  - I'm extremely pro religious freedom in schools...  Hippo_Tron   Dec-21-03 10:19 PM   #10 
  - Lets not forget the majority of the French people support this  exCav   Dec-22-03 08:03 AM   #50 
  - deleted  Blue_Chill   Dec-22-03 12:54 PM   #58 
  - Students protected against other students  mkultra   Dec-24-03 10:05 AM   #77 
  - I don't agree with government regulating religious expression, either,  QC   Dec-21-03 10:34 PM   #11 
  - France is not America...  linazelle   Dec-21-03 10:37 PM   #12 
  - It;'s not Afghanistan either. But Chirac has outdone the Taliban  DuctapeFatwa   Dec-21-03 10:45 PM   #14 
     - Well said  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-21-03 11:14 PM   #20 
     - Actually, that's not true  tishaLA   Dec-22-03 03:32 AM   #32 
     - Beards are worn almost exclusively by men  DuctapeFatwa   Dec-25-03 05:36 PM   #100 
     - Actually  drdigi420   Dec-24-03 11:42 AM   #83 
  - I don't like the ban, either.  Devlzown   Dec-21-03 10:38 PM   #13 
  - That is a TERRIFIC analogy, but I think that the consequences  DuctapeFatwa   Dec-21-03 10:48 PM   #15 
     - you hit the nail on the head there DTF  arewethereyet   Dec-21-03 10:55 PM   #16 
     - But what if my religion...  gpandas   Dec-22-03 11:02 AM   #56 
     - Yeah, I got to thinking about that after  Devlzown   Dec-21-03 11:02 PM   #18 
  - Banning...  PackedForPerth   Dec-21-03 10:58 PM   #17 
  - I don't support the ban, but it's not the end of the world...  evil_orange_cat   Dec-21-03 11:10 PM   #19 
  - yeah, but right or wrong, they don't see it that way  arewethereyet   Dec-21-03 11:35 PM   #21 
  - I don't see this as intolerance...  evil_orange_cat   Dec-21-03 11:37 PM   #22 
     - secularism does allow for expression of religion  rman   Dec-22-03 12:50 AM   #24 
        - Secularism's whole point is to hide religion from the public  indy77   Dec-22-03 12:56 AM   #26 
        - I'll post this link here  Paschall   Dec-22-03 02:55 AM   #30 
           - It is still intolerant  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-22-03 05:21 AM   #34 
           - If the state is her employer...  Paschall   Dec-22-03 12:50 PM   #57 
              - And if she is merely going to school?  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-22-03 01:29 PM   #60 
                 - If she is a minor pupil in a French public school...  Paschall   Dec-22-03 01:58 PM   #64 
                 - Not potential Hitlers  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-22-03 02:02 PM   #65 
                    - Well, then let's pity all those American schoolgirls...  Paschall   Dec-22-03 02:23 PM   #67 
                    - Wow, what a strawman argument  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-23-03 07:29 AM   #75 
                       - Oh  Paschall   Dec-24-03 01:30 AM   #76 
                          - Not everyone follows Christ  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-24-03 10:30 AM   #78 
                             - You can point it out all you want  exCav   Dec-24-03 10:47 AM   #81 
                             - Easy to do when they do this  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-25-03 05:18 AM   #85 
                             - As usual you avoid the question  Paschall   Dec-25-03 03:49 AM   #84 
                                - No rights are absolute  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-25-03 05:25 AM   #86 
                                   - Oh, it's all ego. Fascinating  Paschall   Dec-25-03 07:11 AM   #88 
                                      - So much #$*&%&, so little time  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-25-03 09:44 AM   #91 
                                         - France has a history of "abusing those who have religion?"  Paschall   Dec-25-03 10:04 AM   #92 
                                         - Just those who don't hold the popular choice  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-25-03 12:07 PM   #97 
                    - All schools have dress codes...  LeahMira   Dec-25-03 09:28 AM   #90 
                 - Wondering...  LeahMira   Dec-25-03 12:50 PM   #99 
           - Most of us are extremely troubled by the policy of assimilation as well.  blondeatlast   Dec-22-03 07:48 AM   #49 
           - I'm wondering, Paschall...  LeahMira   Dec-22-03 08:27 AM   #52 
           - None of the American comparisons are applicable  Paschall   Dec-22-03 01:30 PM   #61 
              - Interesting...  LeahMira   Dec-22-03 02:27 PM   #70 
           - quote from the link: "(securalism) shall respect all beliefs"  rman   Dec-25-03 10:05 AM   #93 
  - It puts a limit on free expression; hence the slippery slope . . .  blondeatlast   Dec-22-03 07:03 AM   #44 
  - I think it's ridiculous.  chicaloca   Dec-21-03 11:48 PM   #23 
  - (standing up) Brava! clapclapclapcalpclap!  blondeatlast   Dec-22-03 07:07 AM   #45 
  - An interesting rant, though rather Americano-centric  Paschall   Dec-22-03 01:52 PM   #63 
  - good gracious, what goofy logic & ignorance of modern france  kodi   Dec-22-03 02:00 AM   #27 
  - Best rebuttal so far  exCav   Dec-22-03 08:42 AM   #53 
  - Please explain why scarves on women are a threat but beards on men are not  DuctapeFatwa   Dec-22-03 09:58 AM   #54 
  - bearded men unlike scarved schoolgirls aren't primarily religious displays  kodi   Dec-22-03 02:32 PM   #71 
  - hmmm  Blue_Chill   Dec-22-03 01:10 PM   #59 
  - actually, i am the one insisting on varying degrees in place of absolutes  kodi   Dec-22-03 02:26 PM   #69 
     - I'll grant you that however  Blue_Chill   Dec-22-03 02:41 PM   #72 
        - clearly, you dont live in the south of france or you would reconsider.  kodi   Dec-22-03 02:48 PM   #73 
           - Significant parts of Phoenix (quite significant) look very much like  blondeatlast   Dec-23-03 06:42 AM   #74 
  - you have just illustrated the danger of the slippery slope  bpilgrim   Dec-24-03 10:38 AM   #79 
  - ...  Vernunft   Dec-22-03 02:43 AM   #28 
  - ... deleted ...  Paschall   Dec-22-03 02:49 AM   #29 
  - I agree libpragmatist  dudeness   Dec-22-03 03:17 AM   #31 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-22-03 03:45 AM   #33 
  - Agreed.  PsychoDad   Dec-22-03 05:51 AM   #35 
  - You have to understand French immigration  exCav   Dec-22-03 05:53 AM   #36 
  - So it is forced assimilation  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-22-03 06:07 AM   #39 
  - Yes it is forced  exCav   Dec-22-03 06:27 AM   #42 
  - That's the bigger issue, but I disagree with the "assimilation" policy  blondeatlast   Dec-22-03 07:13 AM   #46 
     - Then don't immigrate to France!  exCav   Dec-24-03 10:43 AM   #80 
     - Interesting  Muddleoftheroad   Dec-25-03 05:27 AM   #87 
     - I often recall these French stats  BonjourUSA   Dec-24-03 10:55 AM   #82 
  - Don't the Turks do this already?  Enjolras   Dec-22-03 06:06 AM   #38 
  - A woman doesn't have to be "fundamentalist" to wear a hajib  blondeatlast   Dec-22-03 07:17 AM   #47 
  - I couldn't agree more. Thanks.  blondeatlast   Dec-22-03 06:57 AM   #43 
  - For those who see nothing wrong with the "assimilation" policy,  blondeatlast   Dec-22-03 07:19 AM   #48 
  - Bad move indeed...  MrPrax   Dec-22-03 08:24 AM   #51 
  - I agree, the ban is a terrible idea. There is a huge difference between  grannylib   Dec-22-03 10:37 AM   #55 
  - What about elderly ladies?  LiberalFighter   Dec-22-03 02:14 PM   #66 
  - What about them?  Paschall   Dec-22-03 02:26 PM   #68 
     - civil service workplace  rman   Dec-25-03 11:26 AM   #94 
        - hi !  BonjourUSA   Dec-25-03 11:46 AM   #95 
        - Never in my lifetime...  LeahMira   Dec-25-03 11:50 AM   #96 
  - Are you in France?  fishguy   Dec-25-03 06:04 PM   #101 
 

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