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Fri Dec-19-03 08:04 AM
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| 1. to compensate inequality in income distribution |
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though it'd be more efficient to start with preventing this inequality in the first place, my limiting maximum income.
Reward of labour should be proportional, the thing is that no CEO (or anyone for that matter) does (nor can) work 400 times as hard as the next guy.
That's just looking at income. Include capital and the disproportion becomes even more extreme; no-one can or does work a million times as hard as the next guy.
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| -Give me you best reasons for the Progressive Income Tax. |
JanMichael |
Dec-19-03 07:54 AM |
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to compensate inequality in income distribution |
rman |
Dec-19-03 08:04 AM |
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One thing you're forgetting... |
san antonio |
Dec-19-03 08:11 AM |
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Strawman alert!!! |
IrateCitizen |
Dec-19-03 09:10 AM |
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Ummm. |
san antonio |
Dec-19-03 09:22 AM |
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No! Don't go into your hole! |
IrateCitizen |
Dec-19-03 09:42 AM |
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Thanks |
san antonio |
Dec-19-03 10:41 AM |
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STRAWMAN ALERT II! |
Valarauko |
Dec-19-03 07:17 PM |
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They should justify making that much more money |
ComerPerro |
Dec-19-03 07:40 PM |
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What do you mean? |
Valarauko |
Dec-19-03 08:14 PM |
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And management thinks that only they know the best way to do anything |
LiberalFighter |
Dec-19-03 11:00 PM |
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that's pretty rare |
matt53 |
Dec-19-03 11:23 AM |
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Here is a link with corporate wages |
LiberalFighter |
Dec-19-03 11:08 PM |
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It's called supply and demand |
nhtfopo |
Dec-19-03 11:33 AM |
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Incone is EARNED, not DISTRIBUTED |
political virginian |
Dec-19-03 12:08 PM |
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Prepping for the show tomorrow? |
prolesunited |
Dec-19-03 08:04 AM |
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Yep. Already written some of it. |
JanMichael |
Dec-19-03 08:06 AM |
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Here's something you may find useful |
prolesunited |
Dec-19-03 08:31 AM |
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People who make more benefit more from the status quo |
Dinkeldog |
Dec-19-03 08:04 AM |
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Expanding on the idea of... |
alpizzy |
Dec-19-03 08:13 AM |
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I can't say it better than Dennis does |
GreenPartyVoter |
Dec-19-03 08:14 AM |
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Social Viability |
Coldgothicwoman |
Dec-19-03 08:16 AM |
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This is the one I buy |
bryant69 |
Dec-19-03 08:23 AM |
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Since the tax cuts, they don't pay that much anymore |
SharonAnn |
Dec-19-03 11:28 AM |
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progressive (small p) taxation is the most equitable means... |
Why |
Dec-19-03 08:20 AM |
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The wealthy have created an economy and society that benefits themselves. |
meti57b |
Dec-19-03 08:35 AM |
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Look at Network Lobby website |
fishguy |
Dec-19-03 08:37 AM |
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Did a quick check and I like it |
LiberalFighter |
Dec-19-03 11:16 PM |
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Watch me get in trouble: |
brainshrub |
Dec-19-03 08:54 AM |
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With a big caveat |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-19-03 09:06 AM |
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It's not evenly applied if low incomes are exempt. |
JanMichael |
Dec-19-03 09:13 AM |
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ROTFLMAO! |
IrateCitizen |
Dec-19-03 09:17 AM |
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Yes it is |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-19-03 10:09 AM |
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They get the same (edit: except the AMT) rates now. |
JanMichael |
Dec-19-03 10:15 AM |
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OMG!! |
brainshrub |
Dec-19-03 10:17 AM |
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agreed n/t |
apsuman |
Dec-19-03 10:48 AM |
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No trouble, just a question. |
JanMichael |
Dec-19-03 09:08 AM |
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No |
brainshrub |
Dec-19-03 10:22 AM |
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I don't believe in progressive taxation either. |
Valarauko |
Dec-19-03 07:24 PM |
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Then I guess you like, believe in, Regressive Taxation? |
JanMichael |
Dec-19-03 07:28 PM |
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How so? |
Valarauko |
Dec-19-03 08:15 PM |
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Why should the very poor pay less than the simply poor? |
JanMichael |
Dec-19-03 09:20 PM |
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It is worse in states and local taxes. |
LiberalFighter |
Dec-19-03 11:42 PM |
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No trouble, just some disagreement... |
IrateCitizen |
Dec-19-03 09:15 AM |
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Answers: |
brainshrub |
Dec-19-03 10:39 AM |
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OK, I've found a few openings here... |
IrateCitizen |
Dec-19-03 11:25 AM |
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Here are some more answers |
brainshrub |
Dec-19-03 11:57 AM |
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Thanks for the SS answers, but I'd appreciate answers for... |
IrateCitizen |
Dec-19-03 12:19 PM |
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I agree with eliminating the cap. |
LiberalFighter |
Dec-19-03 11:48 PM |
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How about a "flat income" too? |
TahitiNut |
Dec-19-03 09:39 AM |
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I don't believe inheritance should be taxed in the first place |
Valarauko |
Dec-19-03 08:16 PM |
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Inheritance is income |
LiberalFighter |
Dec-19-03 11:52 PM |
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There is a reason you'd the only liberal who thinks this |
beyurslf |
Dec-19-03 09:43 AM |
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Flat taxes are the bane of rich republicans AND democrats with connections |
matt53 |
Dec-19-03 11:04 AM |
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Studies have shown that a flat tax would have to increase |
SharonAnn |
Dec-19-03 11:32 AM |
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It all depends on the floor and what you tax |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-19-03 07:13 PM |
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You're not the only liberal who thinks that way. |
Valarauko |
Dec-19-03 07:22 PM |
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Didn't we discuss this before? |
0rganism |
Dec-19-03 07:59 PM |
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And? |
Valarauko |
Dec-19-03 08:17 PM |
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No one is denying the wealthy men more money |
0rganism |
Dec-19-03 11:22 PM |
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There was a study and it found that the flat tax would cost us more |
LiberalFighter |
Dec-19-03 11:37 PM |
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Because wealth redistributrion is good for the less wealthy people |
prisonerseven |
Dec-19-03 09:04 AM |
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Hello? |
Hammie |
Dec-19-03 07:02 PM |
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Discretionary Income |
Killarney |
Dec-19-03 09:06 AM |
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Thus, progresive income tax helps to secure an adiqute money supply. |
Code_Name_D |
Dec-19-03 10:32 AM |
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Actually, the money in savings acocunts is not locked up. |
SharonAnn |
Dec-19-03 06:54 PM |
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I refer to this as "taxing REAL-LIFE disposable income" |
JHB |
Dec-19-03 11:34 AM |
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There are several distinct arguments |
starroute |
Dec-19-03 09:20 AM |
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Or just say that progressive taxation is the only alternative to communism |
starroute |
Dec-19-03 09:34 AM |
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Best reason to me is |
Yupster |
Dec-19-03 09:23 AM |
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Progressive tax mobility enhances social mobility |
seasat |
Dec-19-03 09:38 AM |
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umm...just look at the social democracies of Europe |
cryofan |
Dec-19-03 10:43 AM |
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also read the thread "fighting for the welfare state" |
cryofan |
Dec-19-03 11:00 AM |
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How long will that last? |
matt53 |
Dec-19-03 11:18 AM |
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Name removed |
Dec-19-03 11:34 AM |
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oh, come on |
matt53 |
Dec-19-03 06:42 PM |
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First off, Western Europe is not "socialist" |
IrateCitizen |
Dec-19-03 11:36 AM |
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Not according to the previous article |
matt53 |
Dec-19-03 06:53 PM |
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your labels do not make your arguments for you here on DU |
cryofan |
Dec-19-03 08:22 PM |
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We don't live in isolation |
info being |
Dec-19-03 11:11 AM |
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Simple. Class war. A truly progressive income tax is fair. |
bandera |
Dec-19-03 11:36 AM |
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My idea about taxation? |
Cleita |
Dec-19-03 11:43 AM |
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I like that |
arewethereyet |
Dec-19-03 10:35 PM |
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Wealth should be taxed at a higher rate than Labour |
Uzybone |
Dec-19-03 12:00 PM |
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OK and could you suggest a why for that ? |
arewethereyet |
Dec-19-03 11:06 PM |
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Everyone gives up an equal amount of utility. |
DjTj |
Dec-19-03 12:12 PM |
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Good points. I think the "flat tax" proponants, the honest ones... |
JanMichael |
Dec-19-03 12:54 PM |
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No Taxation Without Representation! |
FoeOfBush |
Dec-19-03 12:22 PM |
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ask a DC resident about that |
arewethereyet |
Dec-19-03 11:07 PM |
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It is simple really |
Hammie |
Dec-19-03 06:53 PM |
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Prevent the creation and continuation of oligarchies. |
ezmojason |
Dec-19-03 07:10 PM |
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The way I see it... |
durutti |
Dec-19-03 10:38 PM |
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Because the poor live closer to the margins |
mmonk |
Dec-19-03 10:38 PM |
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Because, if you do the math, it makes sense. |
AP |
Dec-19-03 11:28 PM |
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