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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-27-03 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. You knew with certainty? I say bullshit to that.
Edited on Sun Jul-27-03 08:24 PM by Redleg
I was sceptical but I didn't claim to know one way or the other. Certainly there was a lot of info out there (such as Scott Ritter's) suggesting there was not an imminent threat. There was also some info suggesting otherwise. I did not believe Bush and his buddies had made a good enough case to launch a pre-emptive war on Iraq but I didn't know with certainty and thought the UN weapons inspectors should go in and find out.
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  -just wondering: who here HONESTLY believes newsguyatl  Jul-27-03 06:42 PM   #0 
  - It was obvious to me it was for their political security  Clete   Jul-27-03 06:45 PM   #1 
  - some opportunism, some true belief in the threat, and a whole lot of FEAR  salin   Jul-27-03 06:46 PM   #2 
  - Political security. No doubt about it.  sfecap   Jul-27-03 06:47 PM   #3 
  - The security of their political futures  Pastiche423   Jul-27-03 06:50 PM   #4 
  - someone  newsguyatl   Jul-27-03 06:54 PM   #5 
  - I wonder  mzpip   Jul-27-03 06:54 PM   #6 
  - ...  Fixated   Jul-27-03 06:56 PM   #8 
  - But....  sfecap   Jul-27-03 07:02 PM   #12 
  - Yes, Chimpy would have gotten a majority anyway.  shimmergal   Jul-27-03 09:05 PM   #53 
  - Evidence  Upfront   Jul-27-03 07:16 PM   #13 
  - Dick Durbin was also given all the information and voted AGAINST.  hedda_foil   Jul-27-03 07:50 PM   #21 
  - reports?? intelligence committees???  steviet_2003   Jul-27-03 08:48 PM   #44 
     - Durbin voted against. He was 2nd on the Senate Intel Committee.  hedda_foil   Jul-27-03 10:47 PM   #71 
  - At the time,  DoYouEverWonder   Jul-27-03 06:56 PM   #7 
  - so does that  newsguyatl   Jul-27-03 06:58 PM   #10 
     - It depends  DoYouEverWonder   Jul-27-03 07:20 PM   #15 
        - Since when does whtat she says or does make a difference to Freepers?  CWebster   Jul-27-03 07:30 PM   #16 
        - The point is: WHAT fight from within?  Eloriel   Jul-27-03 10:10 PM   #62 
  - The security of their political careers.  Demobrat   Jul-27-03 06:58 PM   #9 
  - question is...  Terwilliger   Jul-27-03 07:02 PM   #11 
  - DiFi's hubby  Pastiche423   Jul-27-03 07:20 PM   #14 
  - No kidding.  Clete   Jul-27-03 07:32 PM   #17 
     - DiFi knew what was the result for her and hers...  PaDUer   Jul-27-03 07:51 PM   #22 
     - and they want HER to run as the Dem choice to replace Davis  Terwilliger   Jul-27-03 08:04 PM   #24 
        - I'm hoping she still has a shred of ethics left not to do that.  Clete   Jul-27-03 08:25 PM   #31 
  - Most didn't vote to give Bush power to invade Iraq.  Redleg   Jul-27-03 08:20 PM   #29 
     - Hoped, shmoped.  hedda_foil   Jul-27-03 10:45 PM   #70 
  - Kerry  imhotep   Jul-27-03 07:34 PM   #18 
  - They could also say "I trusted President Rove"  IggleDoer   Jul-27-03 07:37 PM   #19 
  - Were they threatened  PaDUer   Jul-27-03 07:49 PM   #20 
  - No one here  newsguyatl   Jul-27-03 07:54 PM   #23 
  - Corrected votes  Pastiche423   Jul-27-03 09:41 PM   #58 
     - awesome!  newsguyatl   Jul-27-03 09:49 PM   #59 
     - Looks like your "House" are actually Senate Yes votes  Eloriel   Jul-27-03 10:17 PM   #66 
        - See my corrected votes above  Pastiche423   Jul-27-03 10:35 PM   #68 
  - Why are we hacking away at the Demos ?  shirlden   Jul-27-03 08:06 PM   #25 
  - How many of us knew, with certainty, it was a sham?  Redleg   Jul-27-03 08:10 PM   #26 
  - I knew it was a sham - a lot of us did  chaska   Jul-27-03 08:19 PM   #28 
  - You knew with certainty? I say bullshit to that.  Redleg   Jul-27-03 08:23 PM   #30 
     - Just curious...  Jacobin   Jul-27-03 08:26 PM   #32 
     - I never said they were an imminent threat. Read my post before  Redleg   Jul-27-03 08:34 PM   #36 
        - Gonna make me quote ya?  Jacobin   Jul-27-03 08:46 PM   #42 
           - Didn't Bush and his boys make that argument?  Redleg   Jul-27-03 08:53 PM   #46 
              - This is sad  Jacobin   Jul-27-03 09:01 PM   #50 
                 - What is sad is your determination to misstate what I say.  Redleg   Jul-27-03 10:09 PM   #61 
     - I appreciate your need to protect Democrats  Terwilliger   Jul-27-03 08:36 PM   #38 
     - I'm not protecting Democrats as much as I am attacking those  Redleg   Jul-27-03 08:42 PM   #41 
     - P - N - A - C  steviet_2003   Jul-27-03 09:09 PM   #55 
     - I knew with enough certainty that NO WAR WAS WARRANTED  Eloriel   Jul-27-03 10:20 PM   #67 
  - a presentation of all the evidence at the time suggested that...  Terwilliger   Jul-27-03 08:32 PM   #34 
     - Agreed, the evidence suggested there was no imminent threat  Redleg   Jul-27-03 08:36 PM   #37 
        - ok...I'll say it "I knew the war was bogus"  Terwilliger   Jul-27-03 08:47 PM   #43 
           - You knew with certainty? How is that possible?  Redleg   Jul-27-03 08:54 PM   #47 
              - come on...does 2+2=4 mean the reality is somewhere in the 3's?  Terwilliger   Jul-27-03 08:58 PM   #49 
                 - How much of what you know WITH CERTAINTY is influenced by  Redleg   Jul-27-03 10:12 PM   #63 
                    - so, who is accountable to make the hard decisions?  Terwilliger   Jul-27-03 10:53 PM   #72 
  - I refuse to judge them too harshly  loyalsister   Jul-27-03 08:13 PM   #27 
  - Yeah, just put em to bed without supper  Jacobin   Jul-27-03 08:27 PM   #33 
     - popularity contests?  loyalsister   Jul-27-03 08:40 PM   #40 
        - If you will recall, it was mucho  Jacobin   Jul-27-03 08:49 PM   #45 
           - That's a harsh accusation.  Redleg   Jul-27-03 08:55 PM   #48 
           - Perhaps not  Jacobin   Jul-27-03 09:02 PM   #52 
              - I hope you find it. Apparently you are too god-damned smart  Redleg   Jul-27-03 10:14 PM   #64 
           - Thats an EXCELLENT point  Terwilliger   Jul-27-03 09:01 PM   #51 
           - Good, now go vote for Nader- he will fix everything.  Redleg   Jul-27-03 10:15 PM   #65 
              - blaming other people again?  Terwilliger   Jul-27-03 10:56 PM   #73 
              - Another example of psychological projection...  Redleg   Jul-28-03 02:45 PM   #80 
              - lol  Forkboy   Jul-27-03 10:59 PM   #74 
                 - Is this a game or competition?  Redleg   Jul-28-03 02:39 PM   #79 
           - re read  loyalsister   Jul-27-03 11:20 PM   #75 
  - I think some had serious doubts but they voted for the war just in......  LiberalLibra   Jul-27-03 08:32 PM   #35 
  - I gotta go with a political CYA  maine_raptor   Jul-27-03 08:40 PM   #39 
  - Of course it was their/our security  youngred   Jul-27-03 09:05 PM   #54 
  - nope  Terwilliger   Jul-27-03 10:01 PM   #60 
     - Could have gone either way  loyalsister   Jul-27-03 11:30 PM   #77 
        - Ok that makes no sense.  tkmorris   Jul-28-03 12:37 AM   #78 
  - most of them made the best decision they could, imo  Cocoa   Jul-27-03 09:09 PM   #56 
  - A simple question...  RapidCreek   Jul-27-03 09:15 PM   #57 
  - The resolution was totally bogus.  hedda_foil   Jul-27-03 10:43 PM   #69 
  - Probably a mixture of both I would say  jiacinto   Jul-27-03 11:22 PM   #76 
 

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