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Sat Dec-13-03 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #106 |
| 109. Tell me why we are alone at the top? |
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Tell me why in the millions of years of evolution many many species share an amazing numbers of traits yet humans sit alone at the top.
You are willing to accept this as mere coincidence. I am not. I need no proof when what I am saying is clear as day, don't believe me go to the zoo and have a look around.
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| -The science teacher in my school is a creationist. Please, tell me again |
ulysses |
Dec-12-03 07:46 PM |
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She should be fired. |
msmcghee |
Dec-12-03 07:48 PM |
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Yeah a crackpot like Mendel, Newton, Von Braun, etc. |
Pontus |
Dec-14-03 10:12 AM |
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Well, if you're in a private school |
supernova |
Dec-12-03 07:48 PM |
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I don't want to "do anything about it" |
ulysses |
Dec-12-03 07:52 PM |
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sadly... I have read several reports in the last year |
salin |
Dec-12-03 10:05 PM |
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Just how does she edit out her own beliefs? |
funkyflathead |
Dec-12-03 07:49 PM |
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Jailed? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-12-03 08:00 PM |
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Jailed? |
tkmorris |
Dec-12-03 08:21 PM |
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Fired and Jailed?? Are you a Freeper or do you just think like one? |
AntiCoup2k |
Dec-13-03 09:55 AM |
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errr well that is true, |
Marianne |
Dec-13-03 04:55 PM |
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I discuss things like Marx and racism in my conservative college. |
QC |
Dec-13-03 12:49 PM |
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What denomination is she? |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 07:50 PM |
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Is this what she teaches in class? |
Monte Carlo |
Dec-12-03 07:50 PM |
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I don't know that the've discussed it. |
ulysses |
Dec-12-03 07:58 PM |
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Well if she keeps it to herself... |
Monte Carlo |
Dec-12-03 08:05 PM |
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However, science is imperfect |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-12-03 08:06 PM |
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Science is fallible indeed... |
Monte Carlo |
Dec-12-03 08:13 PM |
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It's a CHRISTIAN school? |
funkyflathead |
Dec-12-03 08:05 PM |
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A Catholic school should not be teaching the six day creation theory only |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 08:11 PM |
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Christian does not necessarily mean fundamentalist |
slackmaster |
Dec-13-03 09:50 AM |
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Why do you send your child to that school? |
RainDog |
Dec-12-03 08:09 PM |
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ulysses said "Christian", not fundamentalist |
slackmaster |
Dec-13-03 09:52 AM |
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If you really believed in Science you would forget about evolution |
jwb48 |
Dec-13-03 10:54 AM |
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"theory that is at odds with science" |
DemXCGI |
Dec-13-03 02:21 PM |
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Ooo, 50 PhDs, lahdee freakin dah |
DrWeird |
Dec-13-03 09:14 PM |
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I would joke about spiritual thermodynamics |
forradalom |
Dec-14-03 09:27 AM |
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my kid doesn't go there |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 09:10 AM |
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Yes, they're going to use our tax dollars to teach this stuff. |
SharonAnn |
Dec-12-03 08:44 PM |
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Well, DUH....OF COURSE a christian school is going to teach creation |
Beaker |
Dec-14-03 08:59 AM |
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I don't have kids yet. |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 09:05 AM |
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that's why we need a strong public school system- |
Beaker |
Dec-14-03 09:14 AM |
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you misunderstand me. |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 09:19 AM |
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Doubtful. |
Beaker |
Dec-14-03 09:24 AM |
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I'd like to think that you're right, but I don't. |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 09:40 AM |
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I don't believe that we will see the demise of public education- |
Beaker |
Dec-14-03 09:48 AM |
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not a foregone conclusion, perhaps, |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 09:57 AM |
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My biology teacher in HS was a creationist |
Bucky |
Dec-12-03 07:57 PM |
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In High School |
Jen72 |
Dec-13-03 09:37 AM |
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Well, I wasn't taught the truth about history in private school |
Cleita |
Dec-12-03 07:58 PM |
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The Bible contradicts itself on creation |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 08:01 PM |
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Why do you attend a school that offends your sense of rationality? |
wuushew |
Dec-12-03 08:01 PM |
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I've Had This Same Thing... |
K8-EEE |
Dec-12-03 08:02 PM |
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The Catholic Church does not profess the six day theory of creation |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 08:05 PM |
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What is this teacher doing at a Catholic school? |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 08:06 PM |
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She Came In Mid Year After The Other Teacher Quit |
K8-EEE |
Dec-13-03 03:02 PM |
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No, just explain to your children |
The Doctor |
Dec-12-03 08:05 PM |
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Evolution is still a theory |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 08:08 PM |
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As is general relativity |
wuushew |
Dec-12-03 08:12 PM |
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But to say a theory is fact is not correct |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 08:14 PM |
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A theory is more than supposition |
sandnsea |
Dec-12-03 08:21 PM |
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Changes in gene frequencies, and an "old earth" are facts. Evolution=FACT |
Dr Fate |
Dec-12-03 08:31 PM |
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Are we talking about human evolution here? |
fishguy |
Dec-13-03 07:06 AM |
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it's never been declared a law to pacify to the religisoids(nt) |
OhioStateProgressive |
Dec-13-03 09:02 AM |
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I noted that you refused to adress any specific point I made... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 02:03 PM |
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You do not understand the term "theory" |
RainDog |
Dec-12-03 08:26 PM |
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Gravity is a Law, not a theory. |
AntiCoup2k |
Dec-13-03 10:01 AM |
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Gravity IS a theory, and evolution is a fact. |
DrWeird |
Dec-13-03 09:08 PM |
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Evolution is a SCIENTIFIC theory |
rocknation |
Dec-12-03 08:27 PM |
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True but to be fair |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-12-03 08:42 PM |
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"Evolution is a SCIENTIFIC theory" that had to be changed in last 20 yrs |
papau |
Dec-12-03 08:50 PM |
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you're talking about punctuated equilibrium |
RainDog |
Dec-12-03 09:40 PM |
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Creationists point tohealthy scientific debate as "flaws" in the theory... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 02:12 PM |
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It's the same thing with global warming.... |
liberal_veteran |
Dec-13-03 02:37 PM |
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Misleading.... |
TomNickell |
Dec-12-03 08:30 PM |
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Not really |
The Doctor |
Dec-12-03 08:37 PM |
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"CONTRADICTING evolution" ? term definition ? interrupted evolution? |
papau |
Dec-12-03 08:54 PM |
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And so is Gravity so don't go believing everything you read. |
kixot |
Dec-12-03 09:54 PM |
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Graph Theory in the house!! |
alarcoeg |
Dec-13-03 10:29 AM |
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Theory in the field of science does not mean "guess"... |
liberal_veteran |
Dec-13-03 02:28 PM |
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Yes, many words meaning the same thing |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-13-03 02:32 PM |
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Evolution however is not a guess.... |
liberal_veteran |
Dec-13-03 02:52 PM |
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I do not think you understand the scientific method |
Marianne |
Dec-13-03 04:59 PM |
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She must be a product of private schools and creationist 'theory'. |
roguevalley |
Dec-12-03 08:13 PM |
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Tell her the Big Bang theory was thought up by a Catholic |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-12-03 08:15 PM |
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Evolution deals more w/ the process than the initial "creation" |
Dr Fate |
Dec-12-03 08:16 PM |
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two points |
arewethereyet |
Dec-12-03 08:25 PM |
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Who said "privatized schools are supposed to be our salvation"? |
ozone_man |
Dec-12-03 08:37 PM |
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I guess I'm not making myself clear. |
ulysses |
Dec-12-03 08:47 PM |
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Teachers are not scientists |
quaker bill |
Dec-12-03 08:37 PM |
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"Evolution does not have to conflict with religion." |
ulysses |
Dec-12-03 08:52 PM |
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Actually, Bush is an example of "reverse evolution" |
AntiCoup2k |
Dec-13-03 10:07 AM |
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Many great scientists (Einstein among others) |
letthewindblow |
Dec-12-03 08:40 PM |
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believe it or not, these need not be opposing views |
arewethereyet |
Dec-12-03 08:44 PM |
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Agreed. |
letthewindblow |
Dec-12-03 08:47 PM |
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Amen |
papau |
Dec-12-03 08:51 PM |
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"creation" interpreted in what way? |
ulysses |
Dec-12-03 08:56 PM |
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I just wanted to suggest |
letthewindblow |
Dec-12-03 09:19 PM |
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What do you mean, Einstein? He was an atheist. |
RebelOne |
Dec-13-03 05:45 AM |
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Einstein atheist? |
letthewindblow |
Dec-13-03 08:38 AM |
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ouch, don't screw with the science VS religeon notion |
arewethereyet |
Dec-13-03 09:43 AM |
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Einstein was NOT deeply religious... |
Darranar |
Dec-13-03 05:26 PM |
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"Religous" can mean different things to different people |
letthewindblow |
Dec-13-03 05:50 PM |
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God Doesn't Play Dice |
RainDog |
Dec-14-03 10:22 AM |
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Private schools usually don't fail students |
japanduh |
Dec-12-03 09:02 PM |
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No. Our beliefs are leashed more tightly. |
LWolf |
Dec-12-03 09:08 PM |
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She's wrong, but |
BertrandL |
Dec-12-03 09:59 PM |
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Liberals Hide Certain Points of View? |
Crisco |
Dec-12-03 10:24 PM |
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Creationism is against the very spirit and soul of science, period. |
PurityOfEssence |
Dec-12-03 10:06 PM |
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the parents obviously expect & accept this from their kids' teachers. |
kodi |
Dec-12-03 10:25 PM |
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LOL |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 08:23 AM |
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easy answer |
Iverson |
Dec-13-03 05:24 AM |
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Acceptance of evolution should be a requirement |
durutti |
Dec-13-03 08:14 AM |
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Mandated acceptance of theory? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-13-03 08:22 AM |
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Mandated acceptance of fact. |
durutti |
Dec-13-03 10:09 AM |
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Science fact |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-13-03 11:07 AM |
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Old earth & changes in gene frequencies are FACTS. Evolution=FACT |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 02:52 PM |
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Why are you posting crap you know to be false? |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 03:07 PM |
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it isn't crap; you are misunderstanding science |
Iverson |
Dec-13-03 03:16 PM |
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We are splitting hairs w/ this "theory vs. fact" business. |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 03:20 PM |
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It is crap and you didn't read my post. |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 03:47 PM |
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I gave you 3 facts that prove evolution. Tell me why they are not Facts. |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 03:48 PM |
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Tell me why we are alone at the top? |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 03:54 PM |
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Answer my 3 questions 1st. Answering a question with a question... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 04:03 PM |
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You will not be allowed to frame the discussion friend |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 04:23 PM |
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No, I have no problem with a "divine" plan what-so-ever... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 04:29 PM |
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You do higher primates a disservice... |
wuushew |
Dec-13-03 04:29 PM |
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Apples to oranges |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 08:52 PM |
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Evolutionary destiny. |
Code_Name_D |
Dec-13-03 09:48 PM |
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Not 'simply chance' |
Mattforclark |
Dec-13-03 04:37 PM |
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Exactly- the ony "chance" comes in the form of catatrophies... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 04:46 PM |
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Simple chance remains |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 08:48 PM |
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Actually |
Mattforclark |
Dec-13-03 09:13 PM |
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"why" is a philosophical question. "how" is science. |
RainDog |
Dec-14-03 10:41 AM |
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You failed to adress any of my specific points. |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 03:17 PM |
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I adressed your most important mistake |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 03:51 PM |
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No- you were the one tied up in semantics, not me... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 04:23 PM |
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Not to be anal, but |
Kitsune |
Dec-13-03 06:02 PM |
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Wait a second what are you talking about? |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 03:03 PM |
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Evolution occurs on this earth- FACT. |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 03:25 PM |
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We agree |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 03:55 PM |
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Exactly . Evolution=FACT. |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 04:05 PM |
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Because you want it taught in schools as the origin of human life |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 04:24 PM |
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I want the scientific FACTS to be presented in schools.... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 04:35 PM |
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Evolution doesn't speak to the existance or non-existance of God. |
liberal_veteran |
Dec-13-03 05:42 PM |
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I'm very happy to live in a strictly secular country |
BonjourUSA |
Dec-13-03 08:28 AM |
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Even evolution is adorned with beliefs |
jobycom |
Dec-13-03 08:57 AM |
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I love it! Question #1: Who dun it? |
JanMichael |
Dec-13-03 09:41 AM |
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there seems to be |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 08:32 AM |
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Are you sure she's not just trying to stimulate critical thought? |
slackmaster |
Dec-13-03 09:47 AM |
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The Romani version is similar to the Filipino version, in which God |
DemBones DemBones |
Dec-13-03 02:49 PM |
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i had a creationist teacher in a public school |
amazona |
Dec-13-03 09:57 AM |
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i have nothing to offer |
buddhamama |
Dec-13-03 10:16 AM |
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Stepford Citizens via a sustained effort to stifle the mind and/or |
opihimoimoi |
Dec-13-03 11:03 AM |
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A few thoughts |
Mattforclark |
Dec-13-03 02:57 PM |
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As a scientist who has been a teacher |
frustrated_lefty |
Dec-13-03 03:06 PM |
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The public schools aren't much better, apparently |
neebob |
Dec-13-03 03:30 PM |
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It appears that in some cases this has become a question |
SOteric |
Dec-13-03 03:52 PM |
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Very well said. (eom) |
frustrated_lefty |
Dec-13-03 03:58 PM |
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this will only come about if teachers are pressed to be professional |
Marianne |
Dec-13-03 05:07 PM |
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On the face of it, |
SOteric |
Dec-13-03 05:15 PM |
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my response was to: |
Marianne |
Dec-13-03 06:07 PM |
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Well again, I reiterate |
SOteric |
Dec-13-03 06:20 PM |
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right, and as I say, |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 08:42 AM |
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Soteric |
Marianne |
Dec-14-03 09:08 AM |
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Not to worry, I'm not suggesting you were attacking me |
SOteric |
Dec-14-03 11:28 AM |
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We are reverting to Scope's Monkey Trial mentality in this country |
Jacobin |
Dec-13-03 05:00 PM |
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IMO, she has no business being a science teacher. |
DrWeird |
Dec-13-03 09:18 PM |
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sorry I kinda bailed on the thread yesterday |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 08:46 AM |
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How bad is it really? |
LeahMira |
Dec-14-03 10:28 AM |
#157 |