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Fri Dec-12-03 08:05 PM
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| 14. Well if she keeps it to herself... |
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... and doesn't mix her philosophy in along with her science, then I think everything is OK.
But I agree, we cannot allow science education to be turned into cat-herding. The beauty of science is that there is always one explanation, one answer clearly superior to the others.
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| -The science teacher in my school is a creationist. Please, tell me again |
ulysses |
Dec-12-03 07:46 PM |
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She should be fired. |
msmcghee |
Dec-12-03 07:48 PM |
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Yeah a crackpot like Mendel, Newton, Von Braun, etc. |
Pontus |
Dec-14-03 10:12 AM |
#155 |
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Well, if you're in a private school |
supernova |
Dec-12-03 07:48 PM |
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I don't want to "do anything about it" |
ulysses |
Dec-12-03 07:52 PM |
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sadly... I have read several reports in the last year |
salin |
Dec-12-03 10:05 PM |
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Just how does she edit out her own beliefs? |
funkyflathead |
Dec-12-03 07:49 PM |
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Jailed? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-12-03 08:00 PM |
#10 |
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Jailed? |
tkmorris |
Dec-12-03 08:21 PM |
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Fired and Jailed?? Are you a Freeper or do you just think like one? |
AntiCoup2k |
Dec-13-03 09:55 AM |
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errr well that is true, |
Marianne |
Dec-13-03 04:55 PM |
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I discuss things like Marx and racism in my conservative college. |
QC |
Dec-13-03 12:49 PM |
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What denomination is she? |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 07:50 PM |
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Is this what she teaches in class? |
Monte Carlo |
Dec-12-03 07:50 PM |
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I don't know that the've discussed it. |
ulysses |
Dec-12-03 07:58 PM |
#9 |
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Well if she keeps it to herself... |
Monte Carlo |
Dec-12-03 08:05 PM |
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However, science is imperfect |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-12-03 08:06 PM |
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Science is fallible indeed... |
Monte Carlo |
Dec-12-03 08:13 PM |
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It's a CHRISTIAN school? |
funkyflathead |
Dec-12-03 08:05 PM |
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A Catholic school should not be teaching the six day creation theory only |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 08:11 PM |
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Christian does not necessarily mean fundamentalist |
slackmaster |
Dec-13-03 09:50 AM |
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Why do you send your child to that school? |
RainDog |
Dec-12-03 08:09 PM |
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ulysses said "Christian", not fundamentalist |
slackmaster |
Dec-13-03 09:52 AM |
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If you really believed in Science you would forget about evolution |
jwb48 |
Dec-13-03 10:54 AM |
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"theory that is at odds with science" |
DemXCGI |
Dec-13-03 02:21 PM |
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Ooo, 50 PhDs, lahdee freakin dah |
DrWeird |
Dec-13-03 09:14 PM |
#137 |
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I would joke about spiritual thermodynamics |
forradalom |
Dec-14-03 09:27 AM |
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my kid doesn't go there |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 09:10 AM |
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Yes, they're going to use our tax dollars to teach this stuff. |
SharonAnn |
Dec-12-03 08:44 PM |
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Well, DUH....OF COURSE a christian school is going to teach creation |
Beaker |
Dec-14-03 08:59 AM |
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I don't have kids yet. |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 09:05 AM |
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that's why we need a strong public school system- |
Beaker |
Dec-14-03 09:14 AM |
#148 |
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you misunderstand me. |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 09:19 AM |
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Doubtful. |
Beaker |
Dec-14-03 09:24 AM |
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I'd like to think that you're right, but I don't. |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 09:40 AM |
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I don't believe that we will see the demise of public education- |
Beaker |
Dec-14-03 09:48 AM |
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not a foregone conclusion, perhaps, |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 09:57 AM |
#154 |
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My biology teacher in HS was a creationist |
Bucky |
Dec-12-03 07:57 PM |
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In High School |
Jen72 |
Dec-13-03 09:37 AM |
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Well, I wasn't taught the truth about history in private school |
Cleita |
Dec-12-03 07:58 PM |
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The Bible contradicts itself on creation |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 08:01 PM |
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Why do you attend a school that offends your sense of rationality? |
wuushew |
Dec-12-03 08:01 PM |
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I've Had This Same Thing... |
K8-EEE |
Dec-12-03 08:02 PM |
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The Catholic Church does not profess the six day theory of creation |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 08:05 PM |
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What is this teacher doing at a Catholic school? |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 08:06 PM |
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She Came In Mid Year After The Other Teacher Quit |
K8-EEE |
Dec-13-03 03:02 PM |
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No, just explain to your children |
The Doctor |
Dec-12-03 08:05 PM |
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Evolution is still a theory |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 08:08 PM |
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As is general relativity |
wuushew |
Dec-12-03 08:12 PM |
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But to say a theory is fact is not correct |
fishguy |
Dec-12-03 08:14 PM |
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A theory is more than supposition |
sandnsea |
Dec-12-03 08:21 PM |
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Changes in gene frequencies, and an "old earth" are facts. Evolution=FACT |
Dr Fate |
Dec-12-03 08:31 PM |
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Are we talking about human evolution here? |
fishguy |
Dec-13-03 07:06 AM |
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it's never been declared a law to pacify to the religisoids(nt) |
OhioStateProgressive |
Dec-13-03 09:02 AM |
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I noted that you refused to adress any specific point I made... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 02:03 PM |
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You do not understand the term "theory" |
RainDog |
Dec-12-03 08:26 PM |
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Gravity is a Law, not a theory. |
AntiCoup2k |
Dec-13-03 10:01 AM |
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Gravity IS a theory, and evolution is a fact. |
DrWeird |
Dec-13-03 09:08 PM |
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Evolution is a SCIENTIFIC theory |
rocknation |
Dec-12-03 08:27 PM |
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True but to be fair |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-12-03 08:42 PM |
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"Evolution is a SCIENTIFIC theory" that had to be changed in last 20 yrs |
papau |
Dec-12-03 08:50 PM |
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you're talking about punctuated equilibrium |
RainDog |
Dec-12-03 09:40 PM |
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Creationists point tohealthy scientific debate as "flaws" in the theory... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 02:12 PM |
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It's the same thing with global warming.... |
liberal_veteran |
Dec-13-03 02:37 PM |
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Misleading.... |
TomNickell |
Dec-12-03 08:30 PM |
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Not really |
The Doctor |
Dec-12-03 08:37 PM |
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"CONTRADICTING evolution" ? term definition ? interrupted evolution? |
papau |
Dec-12-03 08:54 PM |
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And so is Gravity so don't go believing everything you read. |
kixot |
Dec-12-03 09:54 PM |
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Graph Theory in the house!! |
alarcoeg |
Dec-13-03 10:29 AM |
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Theory in the field of science does not mean "guess"... |
liberal_veteran |
Dec-13-03 02:28 PM |
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Yes, many words meaning the same thing |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-13-03 02:32 PM |
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Evolution however is not a guess.... |
liberal_veteran |
Dec-13-03 02:52 PM |
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I do not think you understand the scientific method |
Marianne |
Dec-13-03 04:59 PM |
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She must be a product of private schools and creationist 'theory'. |
roguevalley |
Dec-12-03 08:13 PM |
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Tell her the Big Bang theory was thought up by a Catholic |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-12-03 08:15 PM |
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Evolution deals more w/ the process than the initial "creation" |
Dr Fate |
Dec-12-03 08:16 PM |
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two points |
arewethereyet |
Dec-12-03 08:25 PM |
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Who said "privatized schools are supposed to be our salvation"? |
ozone_man |
Dec-12-03 08:37 PM |
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I guess I'm not making myself clear. |
ulysses |
Dec-12-03 08:47 PM |
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Teachers are not scientists |
quaker bill |
Dec-12-03 08:37 PM |
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"Evolution does not have to conflict with religion." |
ulysses |
Dec-12-03 08:52 PM |
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Actually, Bush is an example of "reverse evolution" |
AntiCoup2k |
Dec-13-03 10:07 AM |
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Many great scientists (Einstein among others) |
letthewindblow |
Dec-12-03 08:40 PM |
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believe it or not, these need not be opposing views |
arewethereyet |
Dec-12-03 08:44 PM |
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Agreed. |
letthewindblow |
Dec-12-03 08:47 PM |
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Amen |
papau |
Dec-12-03 08:51 PM |
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"creation" interpreted in what way? |
ulysses |
Dec-12-03 08:56 PM |
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I just wanted to suggest |
letthewindblow |
Dec-12-03 09:19 PM |
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What do you mean, Einstein? He was an atheist. |
RebelOne |
Dec-13-03 05:45 AM |
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Einstein atheist? |
letthewindblow |
Dec-13-03 08:38 AM |
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ouch, don't screw with the science VS religeon notion |
arewethereyet |
Dec-13-03 09:43 AM |
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Einstein was NOT deeply religious... |
Darranar |
Dec-13-03 05:26 PM |
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"Religous" can mean different things to different people |
letthewindblow |
Dec-13-03 05:50 PM |
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God Doesn't Play Dice |
RainDog |
Dec-14-03 10:22 AM |
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Private schools usually don't fail students |
japanduh |
Dec-12-03 09:02 PM |
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No. Our beliefs are leashed more tightly. |
LWolf |
Dec-12-03 09:08 PM |
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She's wrong, but |
BertrandL |
Dec-12-03 09:59 PM |
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Liberals Hide Certain Points of View? |
Crisco |
Dec-12-03 10:24 PM |
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Creationism is against the very spirit and soul of science, period. |
PurityOfEssence |
Dec-12-03 10:06 PM |
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the parents obviously expect & accept this from their kids' teachers. |
kodi |
Dec-12-03 10:25 PM |
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LOL |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 08:23 AM |
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easy answer |
Iverson |
Dec-13-03 05:24 AM |
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Acceptance of evolution should be a requirement |
durutti |
Dec-13-03 08:14 AM |
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Mandated acceptance of theory? |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-13-03 08:22 AM |
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Mandated acceptance of fact. |
durutti |
Dec-13-03 10:09 AM |
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Science fact |
Muddleoftheroad |
Dec-13-03 11:07 AM |
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Old earth & changes in gene frequencies are FACTS. Evolution=FACT |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 02:52 PM |
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Why are you posting crap you know to be false? |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 03:07 PM |
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it isn't crap; you are misunderstanding science |
Iverson |
Dec-13-03 03:16 PM |
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We are splitting hairs w/ this "theory vs. fact" business. |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 03:20 PM |
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It is crap and you didn't read my post. |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 03:47 PM |
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I gave you 3 facts that prove evolution. Tell me why they are not Facts. |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 03:48 PM |
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Tell me why we are alone at the top? |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 03:54 PM |
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Answer my 3 questions 1st. Answering a question with a question... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 04:03 PM |
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You will not be allowed to frame the discussion friend |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 04:23 PM |
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No, I have no problem with a "divine" plan what-so-ever... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 04:29 PM |
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You do higher primates a disservice... |
wuushew |
Dec-13-03 04:29 PM |
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Apples to oranges |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 08:52 PM |
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Evolutionary destiny. |
Code_Name_D |
Dec-13-03 09:48 PM |
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Not 'simply chance' |
Mattforclark |
Dec-13-03 04:37 PM |
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Exactly- the ony "chance" comes in the form of catatrophies... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 04:46 PM |
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Simple chance remains |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 08:48 PM |
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Actually |
Mattforclark |
Dec-13-03 09:13 PM |
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"why" is a philosophical question. "how" is science. |
RainDog |
Dec-14-03 10:41 AM |
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You failed to adress any of my specific points. |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 03:17 PM |
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I adressed your most important mistake |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 03:51 PM |
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No- you were the one tied up in semantics, not me... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 04:23 PM |
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Not to be anal, but |
Kitsune |
Dec-13-03 06:02 PM |
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Wait a second what are you talking about? |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 03:03 PM |
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Evolution occurs on this earth- FACT. |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 03:25 PM |
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We agree |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 03:55 PM |
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Exactly . Evolution=FACT. |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 04:05 PM |
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Because you want it taught in schools as the origin of human life |
Blue_Chill |
Dec-13-03 04:24 PM |
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I want the scientific FACTS to be presented in schools.... |
Dr Fate |
Dec-13-03 04:35 PM |
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Evolution doesn't speak to the existance or non-existance of God. |
liberal_veteran |
Dec-13-03 05:42 PM |
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I'm very happy to live in a strictly secular country |
BonjourUSA |
Dec-13-03 08:28 AM |
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Even evolution is adorned with beliefs |
jobycom |
Dec-13-03 08:57 AM |
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I love it! Question #1: Who dun it? |
JanMichael |
Dec-13-03 09:41 AM |
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there seems to be |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 08:32 AM |
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Are you sure she's not just trying to stimulate critical thought? |
slackmaster |
Dec-13-03 09:47 AM |
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The Romani version is similar to the Filipino version, in which God |
DemBones DemBones |
Dec-13-03 02:49 PM |
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i had a creationist teacher in a public school |
amazona |
Dec-13-03 09:57 AM |
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i have nothing to offer |
buddhamama |
Dec-13-03 10:16 AM |
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Stepford Citizens via a sustained effort to stifle the mind and/or |
opihimoimoi |
Dec-13-03 11:03 AM |
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A few thoughts |
Mattforclark |
Dec-13-03 02:57 PM |
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As a scientist who has been a teacher |
frustrated_lefty |
Dec-13-03 03:06 PM |
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The public schools aren't much better, apparently |
neebob |
Dec-13-03 03:30 PM |
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It appears that in some cases this has become a question |
SOteric |
Dec-13-03 03:52 PM |
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Very well said. (eom) |
frustrated_lefty |
Dec-13-03 03:58 PM |
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this will only come about if teachers are pressed to be professional |
Marianne |
Dec-13-03 05:07 PM |
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On the face of it, |
SOteric |
Dec-13-03 05:15 PM |
#126 |
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my response was to: |
Marianne |
Dec-13-03 06:07 PM |
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Well again, I reiterate |
SOteric |
Dec-13-03 06:20 PM |
#132 |
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right, and as I say, |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 08:42 AM |
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Soteric |
Marianne |
Dec-14-03 09:08 AM |
#146 |
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Not to worry, I'm not suggesting you were attacking me |
SOteric |
Dec-14-03 11:28 AM |
#159 |
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We are reverting to Scope's Monkey Trial mentality in this country |
Jacobin |
Dec-13-03 05:00 PM |
#124 |
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IMO, she has no business being a science teacher. |
DrWeird |
Dec-13-03 09:18 PM |
#138 |
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sorry I kinda bailed on the thread yesterday |
ulysses |
Dec-14-03 08:46 AM |
#143 |
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How bad is it really? |
LeahMira |
Dec-14-03 10:28 AM |
#157 |
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