Paulie
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Thu Dec-11-03 12:13 PM
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"Missile Defense" is about defense FROM missiles, not missiles used in "defense". Missiles are offensive weapons, you have to find your target, the target doesn't come to you. Think linebacker....
de·fense n.
1) The act of defending against attack, danger, or injury.
2) A means or method of defending or protecting.
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| -What Dean really said about Star Wars...the Truth shall set you free folks |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 10:29 AM |
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please change the title of this thread to |
pruner |
Dec-11-03 10:30 AM |
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looks like Dean prefers ground-based missiles to space-based missiles |
slinkerwink |
Dec-11-03 10:30 AM |
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but to be fair, he is keeping space-based options open |
LuminousX |
Dec-11-03 10:33 AM |
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Anyone who doesn't want to keep them open is insane |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 10:35 AM |
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that's true |
slinkerwink |
Dec-11-03 10:37 AM |
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Space Weapons are illegal |
bicentennial_baby |
Dec-11-03 10:37 AM |
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This IS an issue and warrants discussion. |
salin |
Dec-11-03 11:06 AM |
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Which was well with the ABM treaty that Dumya broke... |
Patriot_Spear |
Dec-11-03 10:38 AM |
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kick |
slinkerwink |
Dec-11-03 10:32 AM |
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another kick for the lying liars. |
slinkerwink |
Dec-11-03 10:33 AM |
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You know something? |
Tyler Durden |
Dec-11-03 10:42 AM |
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He's NOT talking about Star Wars, he's talking about ground missiles |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 10:47 AM |
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WHAT???? PROVEN FAIRLY EFFECTIVE? |
Paulie |
Dec-11-03 11:03 AM |
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what you are talking about is Star Wars (reagan, bush1, bush 2) |
salin |
Dec-11-03 11:08 AM |
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The Clinton Program |
Paulie |
Dec-11-03 11:23 AM |
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Furthermore, at the end of his administration he said the application of |
AP |
Dec-11-03 01:38 PM |
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Patriot missiles did a pretty good job overall |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 11:08 AM |
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Another falsehood |
Paulie |
Dec-11-03 11:18 AM |
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Thank You |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 11:26 AM |
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anti-aircraft missiles are part of "missile defense" too ya know |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 11:29 AM |
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No, tragically we are in the minority |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 11:37 AM |
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I'll stick with thankfully |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 11:44 AM |
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If you're one of the lucky ones, that is |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 11:53 AM |
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How ironic. As a Kucinich supporter critical of Dean |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 12:07 PM |
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Please, God... give me strength! |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 12:12 PM |
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I was probably unfair to you specifically |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 12:30 PM |
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Awww, thanks for that |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 12:34 PM |
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You're welcome |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 12:38 PM |
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OH PLEASE!!! |
Paulie |
Dec-11-03 12:21 PM |
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Actually, I live in Vermont |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 12:36 PM |
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Sorry, you're incorrect. |
Paulie |
Dec-11-03 12:13 PM |
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Oh just stop it, will you please |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 12:47 PM |
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No that's fear |
Paulie |
Dec-11-03 12:54 PM |
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I'm not scared of anything, actually |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 12:57 PM |
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Maybe |
Paulie |
Dec-11-03 01:00 PM |
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Thank you!!!! |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 12:58 PM |
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Please get your definitions straight |
MadHound |
Dec-11-03 01:12 PM |
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Dean didn't make any mention of the word "anti-missile" |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 02:23 PM |
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not really |
truthspeaker |
Dec-11-03 11:22 AM |
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But what will it protect us FROM |
Paulie |
Dec-11-03 11:25 AM |
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PART OF a defense policy |
truthspeaker |
Dec-11-03 11:32 AM |
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That's a LIE- MIT proved it and the DoD admitted it... |
Patriot_Spear |
Dec-11-03 12:05 PM |
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My cousin fought in the first Iraq war |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 12:10 PM |
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Okay by me... |
Patriot_Spear |
Dec-11-03 12:12 PM |
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Paulie, I have a great deal of admiration for your passion on this issue |
Cheswick |
Dec-11-03 11:46 AM |
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SW, you are a tireless advocate for your candidate and I appreciate your |
Cheswick |
Dec-11-03 11:43 AM |
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I'm British and just hope anyone beats Bush |
Spentastic |
Dec-11-03 10:36 AM |
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There's more to the military than weapons |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Dec-11-03 10:39 AM |
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Yes but he didn't make it did he. |
Spentastic |
Dec-11-03 10:41 AM |
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We Americans are too cowed |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 10:45 AM |
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Define weapons... |
TLM |
Dec-11-03 11:16 AM |
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Weapons |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 11:29 AM |
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So you agree with Dean... |
TLM |
Dec-11-03 12:06 PM |
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Yes, actually |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 12:13 PM |
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Dean didn't say weapons |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Dec-11-03 10:58 AM |
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As a matter of fact, his campaign did make that clear. |
TLM |
Dec-11-03 11:18 AM |
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He declined to support the ban for one reason and one reason only |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 10:44 AM |
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Er? |
Spentastic |
Dec-11-03 10:48 AM |
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Cheap shots, spentastic |
BeFree |
Dec-11-03 11:00 AM |
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he impressed me also on this issue |
slinkerwink |
Dec-11-03 11:03 AM |
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DUHHH Ummm, Okay -- I Spoze I'll just have to vote for BUSH then |
seventhson |
Dec-11-03 10:36 AM |
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I think the original poster... |
w13rd0 |
Dec-11-03 10:42 AM |
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which is what bothers me about AP's post is that he portrays Dean |
slinkerwink |
Dec-11-03 10:45 AM |
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Dec-11-03 10:57 AM |
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See, I wouldn't know... |
w13rd0 |
Dec-11-03 11:04 AM |
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Oh w13rdo you just nearly made me pee myself! |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 11:11 AM |
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Sounds like McCarthyism. |
AP |
Dec-11-03 11:57 AM |
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Dec-11-03 12:02 PM |
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Just the quote and a link would be fine. |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 12:15 PM |
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It clarifies the intention of the poster. |
Patriot_Spear |
Dec-11-03 12:19 PM |
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Ehhh |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 12:42 PM |
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thank you for the sanity. |
AP |
Dec-11-03 12:44 PM |
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Bias is not an intellectually honest starting point. |
Patriot_Spear |
Dec-11-03 12:58 PM |
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Then you should probably stop displaying it so blatantly? |
AP |
Dec-11-03 01:22 PM |
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So 'attack everything he says' is an Okay starting point? Not a chance.. |
Patriot_Spear |
Dec-11-03 12:55 PM |
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If by "attack" you mean, "think criticially, argue, and support those... |
AP |
Dec-11-03 01:40 PM |
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Poster's intention: look beyond the surface of Dean's statements. |
AP |
Dec-11-03 12:43 PM |
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Your opinion is pre-made- you do not offer an honest view. |
Patriot_Spear |
Dec-11-03 12:57 PM |
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Misunderstanding |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 01:03 PM |
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Read it again "...almost every Dean statement asks to be critisized." |
Patriot_Spear |
Dec-11-03 01:20 PM |
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Proof that that's true: dozens of 100+ post threads on what Dean says. |
AP |
Dec-11-03 01:24 PM |
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Bias: what about the people who post everything Dean says in attempt |
AP |
Dec-11-03 01:25 PM |
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again, thank you. |
AP |
Dec-11-03 01:23 PM |
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My pleasure. |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 01:26 PM |
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I cut and paste the Political Wire story. |
AP |
Dec-11-03 12:48 PM |
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This is a defense to the charge that Dean |
party_line |
Dec-11-03 10:45 AM |
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I found some interesting stuff about his defense spending plan |
party_line |
Dec-11-03 10:44 AM |
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So Dean favors the mythical weapon that hits a bullet with a bullet |
Gman |
Dec-11-03 10:52 AM |
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Whaaaah??? |
seventhson |
Dec-11-03 10:55 AM |
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Sometimes a second read through |
party_line |
Dec-11-03 11:04 AM |
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nice. Did you read the next sentence? |
salin |
Dec-11-03 11:14 AM |
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You don't get it Gman |
no name no slogan |
Dec-11-03 11:59 AM |
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actually - I don't follow the deanblog - just went to the original article |
salin |
Dec-11-03 12:37 PM |
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Sorry, Kind of... I thought this was an attack on Dean Post |
seventhson |
Dec-11-03 10:53 AM |
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it's called desperation |
slinkerwink |
Dec-11-03 10:54 AM |
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Notice how Dean said NOTHING about missiles in space? |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 10:53 AM |
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I misread your intent |
seventhson |
Dec-11-03 11:01 AM |
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That wasn't directed at you seventhson |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 11:05 AM |
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THANk you!!! N/T |
Eloriel |
Dec-11-03 10:56 AM |
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You're welcome |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 11:02 AM |
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Thanks for editing your text. Much clearer that this is to dispel the LIES |
seventhson |
Dec-11-03 11:38 AM |
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You're welcome |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 11:47 AM |
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Dean is a friend to the MIC |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 11:35 AM |
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Kindly cite where Dean said he favors "space based weapons" |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 11:40 AM |
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Sorry |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 11:57 AM |
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Set your feelings about weapons aside for a minute |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 12:24 PM |
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I understand, I really do |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 12:31 PM |
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He doesn't want to put missiles in space |
KaraokeKarlton |
Dec-11-03 12:54 PM |
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HAHAHA - good point! |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 01:17 PM |
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Another false meme |
seventhson |
Dec-11-03 11:42 AM |
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I think it's critical that bush not get re-elected |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 12:01 PM |
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I think Dean prefers "The Empire Strikes Back" |
RetroLounge |
Dec-11-03 11:46 AM |
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Dean folks: Bookmark this thread so you can repel the endless |
Scott Lee |
Dec-11-03 12:04 PM |
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I'll second that |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 12:17 PM |
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Great, he wants to give health care and education funds to something |
genius |
Dec-11-03 12:20 PM |
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He has different priorities |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 12:39 PM |
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What's funny... |
Paulie |
Dec-11-03 12:48 PM |
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I hear ya |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 01:23 PM |
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The need for a national missile defense is a Republican lie |
bigtree |
Dec-11-03 12:47 PM |
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Looks like it should be required reading |
redqueen |
Dec-11-03 01:59 PM |
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